Play Nice 46th President of the United States: Joe Biden 2: Incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim

[Coolangatta]

I don't think Kamala would beat Trump, unfortunately. I think it's a combination of sexism (yeah, yeah, I know some people think it isn't a problem anymore but look how popular Tate and Peterson still are) and her lacking charisma and being a corporate democrat that would make it difficult for her to win, even against a piece of shit hack like Trump.

Williamson and Bernie are out and the D will never pick a true working class representing candidate, so I'd give it to Dean Phillips. Let him take over and take on Trump. They can say all sorts of shit about him but he's a married man and clearly doesn't have dementia so you'd think he's got a better chance at beating trickle down anti-democracy piss ant Donny boy.

 

[happy_eagle]

I think not only does Biden win the presidency, I think Dems may sweep congress and the senate as well.

On moto g(6) plus using BigFooty.com mobile app

I hope you are right.

 

[Coolangatta]

I think not only does Biden win the presidency, I think Dems may sweep congress and the senate as well.

On moto g(6) plus using BigFooty.com mobile app

Yeah I still think Biden has a better chance of winning than Kamala does. But Newsom or Phillips or Pete could do it, too, I think. A true progressive won't be the nominee.

 

[happy_eagle]

Hakeem Jefferies is another one that could go well. Seems to have the backing of his party

 

[Rayzorwire]

Given the speed of Russian advances, and given the latest round of Russian offensives seem to have largely wound up, with nothing but minor strategically insignificant gains, I would have thought a Ukrainian defeat would be irrelevant to Biden, given he will probably be dead.

Not sure why you'd quote a post about Ukraine's losses at the ICJ to make that point, but if you haven't worked out by now that the conflict is a war of attrition (not territory, for now) and one side is desperately low on everything required to fight an ongoing war of attrition, then you're not reading widely enough, IMO.

The only sensible thing to do is for all parties involved to sit down and start discussing how to stop further bloodshed.

On the US side, unfortunately, it would seem that won't happen because it would certainly harm Biden's 'everything is fine, everywhere' ride to November.

 

[Captivating]

You don't necessarily need an amazing candidate, you just need someone that can motivate enough people to vote against Trump (which in itself should not be a difficult bar to clear).

In 2020 Biden was that candidate. 4 Years later its looking less and less likely that he is given his baggage.

Someone like Newsom (I know California isn't perfect) would absolutely trounce Trump in a general election. Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar or Mayor Pete could also do it I reckon.

Newsom’s California is a basketcase with a exodus of people to flee the State riddled with debt and crime.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Biden Proposes Ankle Bracelets and Commands Will Solve the Immigration Problem

The Senate finally released details of the bipartisan border package. House speaker Mike Johnson immediately blasted the deal. McConnell tried to push it. On Sunday, the Senate released details of …

mishtalk.com

Hmmm, appears Biden is prepared to keep funding the border wall, bring in forced ankle bracelets for asylum seekers and all kinds of other draconian measures as compromises to get his Ukraine and Israel war funds.

Can anyone remind me again what the last remaining fig leaf of moral differentiation of Biden from Trump was, I've lost track?

Dunno why the US public doesn't take her more seriously.

It's a mystery.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Johnson is a well known Russian apologist

 

[Aussie in exile]

Dunno why the US public doesn't take her more seriously.

It's a mystery.

 

[Bloods86]

I think not only does Biden win the presidency, I think Dems may sweep congress and the senate as well.

On moto g(6) plus using BigFooty.com mobile app

Senate is unlikely, too many vulnerable Dems up for re-election in red or purple states. Would take a fair swing from polling to pull them all (but 1) over the line.

However, the cycle of who is up for election/which state swings back in their favour in the next few elections.

 

[Spearman]

Even the most hardened closed minded Lefty must know that Joe is a major liability to the Dems chances of retaining office in November. IMO there is absolutely no way he can run for a 2nd term. Decision time is looming fast and i expect the call will be made by end of April early May? Remember who is the VP, it could be worse if Kamala takes over?

I think you'll find that is the position of most voters who lean toward D. Trump is the one and only reason for Biden even running last time. If Trump were ruled ineligible tomorrow, I suspect a lot of pressure would be put on Biden to pull out.
Still, what's being not spoken publicly by Dems is who the VP will be. Usually by now we would know with an incumbent. I think the DNC are not confident with Harris since Biden most likely wouldn't serve out the term and she doesn't seem to have the charisma to sway to country to her side. Serving VPs are never popular, and her color and sex made her less so with Fox viewers. She would have a mighty struggle to win.
Newsom has been more vocal and visible recently so I think he's making his push to get on the ticket.

 

[happy_eagle]

Anyone keeping tabs on the VPs schedule ?



For the West Wing fans

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Even the most hardened closed minded Lefty must know that Joe is a major liability to the Dems chances of retaining office in November. IMO there is absolutely no way he can run for a 2nd term. Decision time is looming fast and i expect the call will be made by end of April early May? Remember who is the VP, it could be worse if Kamala takes over?

She's still too young but I'm an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez man. Whoever the Dems choose now are mere spacefillers and seatwarmers... I hope.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping for a Trump victory and a subsequent Second US Civil War where all the Far Right/Racist Right nut jobs end up pushing up daisies by the end of it, but after that I hope the fractured rump of the United States is led by that famous wartime rebel leader Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Fantasy at this stage I know, but it makes me feel all tingly inside!

 

[Blue1980]

New poll finds Trump and Biden basically tied, but on the issues Trump polls best on immigration/border, the economy and Israel-Hamas war, where Biden polls better on healthcare, Medicare/social security and abortion policy. So why is Biden campaigning on the issues Trump polls better on?

Apparently he is obsessed with watching Morning Joe on MSNBC, that’s probably where he gets his main talking points from.

 

[Blue1980]

It is terrifying, but I'd make a couple of points which, IMO, make the situation over there more terrifying.

Firstly, I see little evidence the Democrats will accept a Trump victory either.

The likes of Pelosi are already cranking up the 'Reds Under the Bed' McCarthyism angle again, she's gone so hard, early and with zero evidence (yet again), that she's trying to link any any and all protest against Biden's Israel policies (specifically the killing of children) as having been directly organised and funded by Putin.

So the Democrat media aligned voters have been "worked over so badly" along similar lines (the RussiaGate twaddle), that there's little meaningful difference. It's all propaganda of the rankest variety herding voters into polarised war camps.

Both sides are just as bad, IMO - bat s**t crazy, professional propaganda machines - and should be called out for it.

Secondly, the Democrats have done literally nothing meaningful I can recall to heal the political divide in the country over Biden's term. Instead, he and they have politicised literally everything possible to hang on to a tenuous presidency (in terms of approval) and stay in the race for another term.

So no matter which side wins, the situation is virtually certain to get worse.

Err no bothsidesism here. Democrats are just old school corporate stooges, still terrible but they believe in things like rule of law, elections and other civil norms.

Trump and MAGA just want to turn America into a fascist state.

Republicans would be just as terrible on the Israel issue if not somehow worse. This is exemplified in their statements, none of them want to pull funding for Israel, and they usually compete of who can be more Islamophobic and who would encourage the bombing of Gaza harder. This includes trump.

Pelosi can claim whatever she likes, they are already trying to paint any anti Israel protests as being anti semetic.

MAGA republicans have this hilarious disconnect in they complain about anti semetism for anyone criticising Israel yet play nice with actual white supremacist nazis.

 

[Nuggets73]

… They’ll roll Michelle out over the coming weeks - bookmark it

 

[Aussie in exile]

… They’ll roll Michelle out over the coming weeks - bookmark it

In my opinion she should be running for president instead of Biden, and she would destroy Trump in any TV debates.

 

[Nuggets73]

In my opinion she should be running for president instead of Biden, and she would destroy Trump in any TV debates.

Reckon Biden’s presser today was the last straw … he’s clearly not of sound mind, they need to move on quickly or risk getting smoked come November. If they stick with Biden, abortion will be the only thing to save the Dems.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Reckon Biden’s presser today was the last straw … he’s clearly not of sound mind, they need to move on quickly or risk getting smoked come November. If they stick with Biden, abortion will be the only thing to save the Dems.

And possibly health care.

 

[Coolangatta]

She's still too young but I'm an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez man. Whoever the Dems choose now are mere spacefillers and seatwarmers... I hope.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping for a Trump victory and a subsequent Second US Civil War where all the Far Right/Racist Right nut jobs end up pushing up daisies by the end of it, but after that I hope the fractured rump of the United States is led by that famous wartime rebel leader Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Fantasy at this stage I know, but it makes me feel all tingly inside!

If she's going to rock a nice leather outfit as her presidential overlord attire than I salute this alternate timeline proposal.

 

[Aussie in exile]

If she's going to rock a nice leather outfit as her presidential overlord attire than I salute this alternate timeline proposal.

IF she decides to run for president in 4 years time she will be the Republication biggest nightmare as she is highly intelligent and quick witted, and would destroy any Republican in any debate with facts, and as we know Republicans don't like facts that expose their lies.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

If she's going to rock a nice leather outfit as her presidential overlord attire than I salute this alternate timeline proposal.

There's a LOT more to her than just looks. She's no grifter from what I can gather. She's not in it for the glory.



She BELIEVES.

 

[Coolangatta]

There's a LOT more to her than just looks. She's no grifter from what I can gather. She's not in it for the glory.



She BELIEVES.

Oh yeah, I know. From what I've seen of her comments, I've been impressed. MAGA ****s can't seem to stand her and that's got to be a good thing.

 

[Tandy]

Biden is absolutely cooked. Nearly irresponsible to run. He will cost them if he does

 

[Spearman]

I like her. She learned some lessons with her early uber-progressive proposals and will probably be an effective representative or senator for many terms.