Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Satan]

Ahahahah Americans have spent 4 years and millions of dollars looking for that evidence and YOU think a big footy poster has it.

He was the original bot

 

[Blue1980]

admit that you cant handle trump winning.
I said what i said and it's as clear as day.

He won this time, and 2016 and didn’t win 2020.

 

[stefcep]

This is the kind of both sidesism that the media has engaged in that has allowed Trump to flourish, the idea that there’s hardly any difference between the two so why not go for the wacky character promising you the moon. The Democrats are far from perfect, but Biden’s measured approach to coat of living provided a much better outcome than Trump’s unstable, incoherent approach to COVID did. Being an ‘establishment’ politician means the rule of law is maintained as opposed to Trump undermining elections at every turn. And Harris’ policies exist in the realms of actual possibility as opposed to Trump’s imaginary tariff solution to everything or blaming everything on migrants.

The two sides are not the same, that argument might have been applicable before Trump, it’s not now.

They're not really comparable crises are they? One was rising inflation, the other a once in a 100 year world wide pandemic.

I still remember Pelosi encouraging people to gather in Chinatown (because it was racist if people didn't) as COVID was taking hold. Given that was one of the most senior people in the Democrat party , who knows how they would have handled COVID.

OTOH, prior to COVID, Trump's economy was smashing it.

 

[Financialpanther]

admit that you cant handle trump winning.
I said what i said and it's as clear as day.

Some say they love coming to these threads for the melts, sometimes it good to see someone taking winning so badly as well.

 

[Vassp]

Meh, stop being so football teamy about this.

The Dems suck too, but they will do it with a bit more civility and a few little things to make it look like they are doing something.

End of the day, both parties become more and more remote from what people on the ground want and that’s going to continue at various speeds under either party.

I am not, I'm a realist, everything said here is spot on, this election crap became a war, ON both sides, it was dirty, disrespectful, and downright nasty. People had their lives changed dramatically because of these elections, It's not just me saying this, but for some reason, Bigfooty is full of leftist ideologies.

 

[Vassp]

Some say they love coming to these threads for the melts, sometimes it good to see someone taking winning so badly as well.

in your mind it is, not in reality. Thats ok though.

 

[Vassp]

He won this time, and 2016 and didn’t win 2020.

That I agree with.

 

[Chief]

Some say they love coming to these threads for the melts, sometimes it good to see someone taking winning so badly as well.

It happened in 2016. They seemed MORE angry after Hillary lost.

 

[Financialpanther]

in your mind it is, not in reality. Thats ok though.

I’m pretty comfortable - you keep up the good fight though

 

[Blue1980]

I am not, I'm a realist, everything said here is spot on, this election crap became a war, ON both sides, it was dirty, disrespectful, and downright nasty. People had their lives changed dramatically because of these elections, It's not just me saying this, but for some reason, Bigfooty is full of leftist ideologies.

We can all get caught up in it, I put my hand up. It’s an evolving process and I guess end of the day I like to think most of us want what is best for the majority of the world at heart, but have different ways of wanting to get there.

Also belief systems change the more you read into things, experience the world etc.

We are all on different timelines in that regard, in terms of what we discover and experience.

I’m convinced there are terrible people out there who do want to do bad things, but probably not fair or even constructive to tar everyone with the same brush.

 

[Vassp]

I’m pretty comfortable - you keep up the good fight though

looks like you are fighting the good fight, otherwise, why are you here?

 

[Romeoh1]

in your mind it is, not in reality. Thats ok though.

Lol- you defs seem rather embittered for someone who thinks they are on the winning team. And really- I get it, if I was on a team with Donnie and Elon and Stephen Miller- crikey- I’d be pretty darn miserable too.

 

[Financialpanther]

looks like you are fighting the good fight, otherwise, why are you here?

Because I like to observe and participate.

 

[Gethelred]

the legitimate elections that had ....

A completely different win stat to any other win stat in the last 20 years.
B an election last hour spike that did not happen this time around --i wonder why that was?
Something smells Fishy.

This is the second time you've implied there was something awry with the 2020 election. If it continues, you will be asked to demonstrate your claim or face an infraction for the deliberate spread of misinformation.

Consider this fair warning.

 

[Vassp]

We can all get caught up in it, I put my hand up. It’s an evolving process and I guess end of the day I like to think most of us want what is best for the majority of the world at heart, but have different ways of wanting to get there.

Also belief systems change the more you read into things, experience the world etc.

We are all on different timelines in that regard, in terms of what we discover and experience.

I’m convinced there are terrible people out there who do want to do bad things, but probably not fair or even constructive to tar everyone with the same brush.

This is your best reply and something closer to how I see it as well, I want the best for the world, And during COVID-19 I had time to have a serious look into life, politics etc, i didn't like what i saw. most people are good hearted and that keeps me in good spirits.

BUt in 2024 we still have.....
Child trafficking.
Child pr0n,
Salvery.
Wars
and the list goes on.

Maybe one day Ai can go some way into fixing our twisted elites.

 

[Royces Hart]

Chief gets to use an react, he’s one of the elite.

 

[Vassp]

This is the second time you've implied there was something awry with the 2020 election. If it continues, you will be asked to demonstrate your claim or face an infraction for the deliberate spread of misinformation.

Consider this fair warning.

I just mentioned it was abnormal, which Is an opinion and I did not claim it as fact.
But point taken.

 

[Tadpole]

Everyone is getting Gatorade showers?

Gatorade showers would be very much appreciated. Golden showers on the other hand.

 

[JackOutback]

Jack, if you can't converse like a normal person, F off and go back to the country, Tired of your digs.

Just so you know you dumb ass, Election fraud is real and happens.

You’re peddling disproven nonsense and complaining about other people ‘conversing like a normal person’. If the Dems can cheat so effectively, didn’t they this time? Why does this fraud only happen when Democrats win and not Republicans? If you want people to discuss things with you like a normal person, don’t post like an absolute turnip.

 

[JackOutback]

They're not really comparable crises are they? One was rising inflation, the other a once in a 100 year world wide pandemic.

I still remember Pelosi encouraging people to gather in Chinatown (because it was racist if people didn't) as COVID was taking hold. Given that was one of the most senior people in the Democrat party , who knows how they would have handled COVID.

OTOH, prior to COVID, Trump's economy was smashing it.

It was a sudden rise in inflation born out of a once-in-a-hundred year pandemic that smashed people’s standards of living. It was essentially a continuation of the same issue.

 

[stefcep]

It was a sudden rise in inflation born out of a once-in-a-hundred year pandemic that smashed people’s standards of living. It was essentially a continuation of the same issue.

On was a disease people and their families can die from with no known cause, prevention or cure. The other was paying 15-20% more for your eggs, bread, milk, cars and houses. The two are not even remotely comparable.

 

[Blue1980]

On was a disease people and their families can die from with no known cause, prevention or cure. The other was paying 15-20% more for your eggs, bread, milk, cars and houses. The two are not even remotely comparable.

I have said this before flip around who the imcumbent party was in 2020 and 2024, and you probably have the incumbents losing both.

 

[stefcep]

You’re peddling disproven nonsense and complaining about other people ‘conversing like a normal person’. If the Dems can cheat so effectively, didn’t they this time? Why does this fraud only happen when Democrats win and not Republicans? If you want people to discuss things with you like a normal person, don’t post like an absolute turnip.

There are many ways to "cheat" that go beyond vote-rigging.

They can for example close a Presidents preferred form of communication to his people ie twitter.

They can deny to host a platform for their opponents eg Amazon

They can suppress true facts that could be harmful to his political opponents facebook and Hunters 'puter.

They can manipulate search engine results to favour his opponents.

And then there is this beauty:

the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

 

[Chief]

I still remember Pelosi encouraging people to gather in Chinatown (because it was racist if people didn't)

I don't recall this at all. Link?

 

[Blue1980]

There are many ways to "cheat" that go beyond vote-rigging.

They can for example close a Presidents preferred form of communication to his people ie twitter.

They can deny to host a platform for their opponents eg Amazon

They can suppress true facts that could be harmful to his political opponents facebook and Hunters 'puter.

They can manipulate search engine results to favour his opponents.

And then there is this beauty:

the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

To be honest I think its futile getting into it really, but there is a big difference between what Trump is claiming and what you are saying above.

What you are saying above is more Hilary 2016 like.