Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Financialpanther]

Depressingly, Trump's approval ratings across the US public are higher than ever.

Tough times are coming though, the question will be whether the general public can see through the lie when the blame is inevitably shifted onto the next scapegoat.

Everyone has a honeymoon period of 3-6 months where they can blame stuff on the last guy. He will be no different

 

[Festerz]

It’s a disgrace that America has almost 100 million eligible people that do not vote.

Of course there’s powers that be such as the Republican Party that will do everything they can to suppress potential voters but plenty of them just have zero interest nor care which in my extreme view is pathetic. You shouldn’t be able to escape from such a responsibility.

Don't be too harsh on the voters. For those of us living in Australia, where the right to vote is sacrosanct and protected by Federal legislation, it is impossible to beleive the roadblocks put in place to limit the voting franchise for partisan reasons in the US.

Unlike in Australia, Presidential elections are held on a weekday making it extraordinarily difficult for lowly paid workers to get out and vote, especially given the long queues and inaccessibility of voting places , even in major cities like NYC.

The number and location of polling places is controlled by individual states and there is no such think as an independent electoral commission to maintain the independence and fairness of the voting system. And it is easier in some red states to
get a gun licence than it is to register to vote.

Consider the case of Arizona. As the result of a long and still ongoing legal dispute, if you registered to vote for the 2024 US election using a form that the federal government produces to be used around the country, you would be allowed to vote in federal elections, but not in Arizona state or local elections, unless you also provided papers proving your citizenship.

Most Australians do not realise that the US Presidential election is NOT a single election or even 51 elections (for each of the 50 states plus Washington, D.C.). They run over 8,000 simultaneous elections, often on the county level - for everything from the US President, to the local dog catcher - on a ballot paper that run metres long and can take 15 minutes or more to fill out.

What’s more, the U.S. Constitution says very little about how elections are to be run. The Constitution does not even affirmatively guarantee anyone the right to vote — it only bars certain forms of discrimination in voting, such as on the basis of gender, age or race. The rules that govern US elections are a mix of federal, state and local laws. And even on the state level, power over elections is dispersed among the legislature, governor, election administrators and local officials.

Blaming the voters for not bothering or being allowed to show up on voting day is misplaced. For all we hear about the US being the home of the western democracy, the process of democracy itself in the US is deeply flawed - something we have no chance of understanding looking at pie charts and tables on voting turnout numbers from the other side of the world.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Depressingly, Trump's approval ratings across the US public are higher than ever.

Tough times are coming though, the question will be whether the general public can see through the lie when the blame is inevitably shifted onto the next scapegoat.

Well never been high and he's never been popular, the public can already see through the lies.

Let's see how long they hold out.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

After his executive order on sex, is Trump legally the first female president?

After his executive order on sex, is Trump legally the first female president?

The confusing and vague executive order underscores how complex sex is and why it’s hard to reduce it into a neat binary

www.theguardian.com

 

[swingdog]

As far as the American people catching on that they've ****ed up goes, I'm pretty cynical. I think it'll take a lot longer than we'd expect. At least, for it to get to a point they actually do something about it.

Saw a comment along the lines of, Americans think the French are weak, but the French would have been out on the streets setting things on fire by now.

 

[spinynorman]

Definitely wasn't a Nazi salute.

 

[TheSunGod]

Aaaanyway....

The piece de resistance here was kissing Melania. Just brilliant.

The Governor got a better kiss in on Melania than her (very) old man did on his inauguration!

Trump tries to jerk Newsom’s arm during the shake and Gavin is having nothing of it, pulling DonOld’s hand back in his direction - probably tightened his grip too

 

[TheSunGod]

Saw a comment along the lines of, Americans think the French are weak, but the French would have been out on the streets setting things on fire by now.

You haven’t really been to France unless you’ve seen a protest / riot.

 

[TheSunGod]

After his executive order on sex, is Trump legally the first female president?

After his executive order on sex, is Trump legally the first female president?

The confusing and vague executive order underscores how complex sex is and why it’s hard to reduce it into a neat binary

www.theguardian.com

Apparently there’s been a lot of criticism about the executive orders being lazily written by ChatGPT.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Revolution is in the air as Trump arrives with a bang – but can he follow through?

The president has wasted little time in pushing a radical rightwing agenda at the start of his second term

www.theguardian.com

“one of the biggest betrayals of our law enforcement officers and anyone who swore to uphold an oath to the constitution in the history of this nation. What an affront and a despicable one at that.“

Plenty we already know in this article, but interesting to read the perspectives that say he’s already reached his high point and the wheels will quickly fall off.

 

[Royces Hart]

Definitely wasn't a Nazi salute.

There should be less control by the global elite, is this dickhead for real?

If you didn’t know who he was, you’d think he’d be a prime candidate for a mass shooting.

 

[Chief]

Unlike in Australia, Presidential elections are held on a weekday making it extraordinarily difficult for lowly paid workers to get out and vote, especially given the long queues and inaccessibility of voting places , even in major cities like NYC.

And the disincentives that their oligarch bosses would put on getting time off to vote for a party that might lean towards slightly more favourable worker rights.

 

[magpie_marty]

Most of the rest of the world's a clusterf*CK compared to us here, it seems.

We have our problems but they pale in comparison to most other places.

The Governor got a better kiss in on Melania than her (very) old man did on his inauguration!

Trump tries to jerk Newsom’s arm during the shake and Gavin is having nothing of it, pulling DonOld’s hand back in his direction - probably tightened his grip too

Tad of topic but newsom is taller and is 6ft 3

 

[troybe]

Tad of topic but newsom is taller and is 6ft 3

Greg Abbott’s taller than Trump

 

[Frank Grimes]

As far as the American people catching on that they've ****ed up goes, I'm pretty cynical. I think it'll take a lot longer than we'd expect. At least, for it to get to a point they actually do something about it.

What is funny is that even when they realise that they voted against their self interest they double down and still say they would vote for Trump again if an election was held. Trump is becoming more and more like a cult.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Trump is showing us the true cost of liberalism

Now that Donald Trump is dismantling so many government programs, we might find out their ultimate cost.

www.smh.com.au

Always enjoy this woman’s insights.

Neither conservative nor progressive.
Thinks outside the box, specially in an article saying we all need to think outside the box.

(Though she does use the really wrong RW term “open borders”. The US and Australia do not have “open borders” and they never have. It’s just bullshit how the right wing uses this highly overwrought term as if it’s an agreed situation.)

And anyone with the surname Parma Guinness understands Aussie pub culture.

 

[Royces Hart]

And anyone with the surname Parma Guinness understands Aussie pub culture.

Parmi Guinness!

 

[Not Important]

well, the upside is that no one knows more about fraud than the orange orangutan.

“The White House has removed the independent inspectors general of nearly every Cabinet-level agency in an unprecedented purge that could clear the way for President Donald Trump to install loyalists in the crucial role of identifying fraud, waste and abuse in the government.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/24/trump-fire-inspectors-general-federal-agencies/

 

[Not Important]

let's hope he continues to run into legal brick walls and his peeps spend more time in court rooms than in their offices wrecking the joint.

"There's a problem with President Donald Trump's birthright citizenship executive order, and it doesn't take much effort to see it.

The Fourteenth Amendment reads, in relevant part: "All persons born or naturalised in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Justin Amash: The problem with Trump’s birthright citizenship order

Former Rep. Justin Amash explains why President Donald Trump's interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment is wrong.

reason.com

 

[Not Important]

and the orange orangutan lets violent insurrectionists go free. what a shithole america is today.

Just Stop Oil protester, 78, has jail term extended after no suitable tag found

Exclusive: Gaie Delap told she will have to serve 20 more days that correspond to period of time at home after recall

www.theguardian.com

 

[Not Important]

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

let's hope he continues to run into legal brick walls and his peeps spend more time in court rooms than in their offices wrecking the joint.

"There's a problem with President Donald Trump's birthright citizenship executive order, and it doesn't take much effort to see it.

The Fourteenth Amendment reads, in relevant part: "All persons born or naturalised in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Justin Amash: The problem with Trump’s birthright citizenship order

Former Rep. Justin Amash explains why President Donald Trump's interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment is wrong.

reason.com

Well, with the Supreme Court he’s currently got, I wouldn’t be too confident.

So-called “originalists” only too happy to suddenly be anything but, when it suits their political prejudices.

 

[Todman]

Everyone has a honeymoon period of 3-6 months where they can blame stuff on the last guy. He will be no different

Seems to work in Victoria, Kennett has been out of office for 25 years and still getting blamed.

 

[Todman]

and the orange orangutan lets violent insurrectionists go free. what a shithole america is today.

Just Stop Oil protester, 78, has jail term extended after no suitable tag found

Exclusive: Gaie Delap told she will have to serve 20 more days that correspond to period of time at home after recall

www.theguardian.com

Still less than the 8064 that Joe Biden pardoned.

 

[Royces Hart]

Still less than the 8064 that Joe Biden pardoned.

Does Trump love law enforcement or not?