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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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[Festerz]

A popular St Kilda venue has come under fire after it threatened to kick out a regular patron if he refused to take off his red Donald Trump MAGA cap.
Xxxxxxx45, was celebrating a friend’s birthday at Captain Baxter on Australia Day when he was approached by the venue manager and told to remove the cap which famously reads ‘Make American Great Again’.

“I rocked up at 5.30pm, sat down at a table and probably 10 minutes in the venue manager came up to me and said ‘I need you to remove your hat’,” Mr xxxxxx told the Herald Sun.

we need a poll which bf poster is it?

The guy (Angelo Notta) is obviously a pea-brained tosser who went out of his way to create a scene and get some cheap publicity to lighten up his sad little steroid fuelled life.




He got the response he wanted from the venue and obviously rang up the HUN who, eager to get the clicks from like minded idiots who form the Murdoch tabloid readership base, gave him the public platform he craved to liven up his pitiful existence.

IMHO the smart thing would have been to not link to the non-story. But now that you have, probably best to just shake our heads in private at the petty insignificance of it all and move on.

 

[Spearman]

I'm sorry but I'll say it again - blaming the American people for not getting out to vote and saying it cost the Democrats the election is not only misplaced blame but shows a fundamental misunderstanding of both the US electoral system AND recent US Presidential election voting history.

In 2016 Trump won the Electoral College, and the presidency, thanks to Wisconsin and two other traditionally Democratic states, Pennsylvania and Michigan. It was just 78,000 votes in those three states - out of the 128.8 million votes cast nationally, that secured his victory. That 78,000-vote difference in those three states gave Trump the presidency even though, in the total popular vote across the country, Hilary Clinton beat Trump by nearly 3 million votes!!

How do you reckon the average democrat working class voter in the US feels when, after hard days work on a weekday, in the middle of a cold and blizzard racked winters night they take the time to line up for hours to cast a vote in the north east states, to see that happen?

Do you reckon that might just blunt their enthusiasm to do it all again just 8 years later? In the face of a Democratic campaign that stumbled and sputtered for months before finally deciding on replacing Joe Biden with Kamala Harris as their Presidential candidate?

I get that everyone wants someone to blame for Trump's second victory. But blaming large numbers of average working class voters in the US for not being able or willing to get out and vote, for whatever reason, in a system that is so horribly stacked against them in so many parts of the country (as outlined in my previous post) and in the light of a fundamentally flawed, poorly targeted and arrogant Democrat campaign (bearing in mind that a large part of the Trump vote was the relatively poorly educated working class), is just lazy and wrong in fact.

This situation is different in each state. (like so many other problems in the US) I don't know how many states actually flipped from Trump or their voter turnout, but for me at its core was the turnouts in the battleground EC states. PA had something like 75%, Trump by about a million and more than 1.5 points. There voting had consequences.
In my own experiences, last residence was WA, it didn't matter if I had voted or not. (I did, but went with fourth party once). WA is deeply blue, and as a kicker the race was often called before I voted in the late afternoons.(pre-Web) Now having voters many times overseas, my vote gets added to my last US registered address's state count. So still WA and it doesn't affect the matter either way. The EC definitely needs a major overhaul.
Your mandatory voting looks interesting, but that would take a massive paradigm shift to work in the States.

 

[Spearman]

It's truly dreadful the media landscape that barracks for a team

That has always been the case since colonies. Maybe more constrained to the editorial page in the past. The blurring or even erasing of the line between opinion and news by Fox is hugely responsible.

 

[Mick F]

I'm sorry but I'll say it again - blaming the American people for not getting out to vote and saying it cost the Democrats the election is not only misplaced blame but shows a fundamental misunderstanding of both the US electoral system AND recent US Presidential election voting history.

In 2016 Trump won the Electoral College, and the presidency, thanks to Wisconsin and two other traditionally Democratic states, Pennsylvania and Michigan. It was just 78,000 votes in those three states - out of the 128.8 million votes cast nationally, that secured his victory. That 78,000-vote difference in those three states gave Trump the presidency even though, in the total popular vote across the country, Hilary Clinton beat Trump by nearly 3 million votes!!

How do you reckon the average democrat working class voter in the US feels when, after hard days work on a weekday, in the middle of a cold and blizzard racked winters night they take the time to line up for hours to cast a vote in the north east states, to see that happen?

Do you reckon that might just blunt their enthusiasm to do it all again just 8 years later? In the face of a Democratic campaign that stumbled and sputtered for months before finally deciding on replacing Joe Biden with Kamala Harris as their Presidential candidate?

I get that everyone wants someone to blame for Trump's second victory. But blaming large numbers of average working class voters in the US for not being able or willing to get out and vote, for whatever reason, in a system that is so horribly stacked against them in so many parts of the country (as outlined in my previous post) and in the light of a fundamentally flawed, poorly targeted and arrogant Democrat campaign (bearing in mind that a large part of the Trump vote was the relatively poorly educated working class), is just lazy and wrong in fact.

There is no blame. The American people have their preferred representatives, who they believe shall best represent their views and concerns. They are not going to be greatly effected as they go about their lives, ‘day in day out’. They’ll still have the same family members, jobs and watch the same TV programs.

 

[Festerz]

Your mandatory voting looks interesting, but that would take a massive paradigm shift to work in the States.

Have absolutely no doubt that 'mandating' anything relating to citizen behaviour or participation in US politics or government in these times would be as popular as a pig on a spit at a bar mitzvah.

Would even struggle to get a foothold here were in not enshrined in post-Federation Commonwealth/State legislation that is now over a century old. There have been frequent pushes from elements of the conservative side of politics to try and switch to voluntary voting here over the past half a century - all to no avail.

 

[Cooldude]

A popular St Kilda venue has come under fire after it threatened to kick out a regular patron if he refused to take off his red Donald Trump MAGA cap.
Xxxxxxx45, was celebrating a friend’s birthday at Captain Baxter on Australia Day when he was approached by the venue manager and told to remove the cap which famously reads ‘Make American Great Again’.

“I rocked up at 5.30pm, sat down at a table and probably 10 minutes in the venue manager came up to me and said ‘I need you to remove your hat’,” Mr xxxxxx told the Herald Sun.

we need a poll which bf poster is it?

If an Australian like him is so concerned about making America great again then we should deport him to the US, he'd be happier that way

 

[Sqotty from office works]

A popular St Kilda venue has come under fire after it threatened to kick out a regular patron if he refused to take off his red Donald Trump MAGA cap.
Xxxxxxx45, was celebrating a friend’s birthday at Captain Baxter on Australia Day when he was approached by the venue manager and told to remove the cap which famously reads ‘Make American Great Again’.

“I rocked up at 5.30pm, sat down at a table and probably 10 minutes in the venue manager came up to me and said ‘I need you to remove your hat’,” Mr xxxxxx told the Herald Sun.

we need a poll which bf poster is it?

Looks like that girl from Port Adelaide.
Hope that helps you.

 

[Festerz]

They are not going to be greatly effected as they go about their lives, ‘day in day out’. They’ll still have the same family members, jobs and watch the same TV programs.

This is satire of course and I get your point.

But as an outside observer of US history, I'm reasonably certain that the capacity of US residents to 'go about their lives, day in day out' has been fundamentally determined by the rules and regulations of US Federal and State legislatures - based on things like the colour of their skin, their religious beliefs, sexuality, gender, country of birth, etc.

There comes I time I'm sure, when those whose lives are continually oppressed and their histories trashed as insignificant and worthless,, that they tune out of life and tune in to the latest reality show.

Much the same as here in Oz.

 

[Randomizor]

Gulf of Mexico renamed to Gulf of America.

In other news, egg prices remain at an all-time high

 

[Cooldude]

Would laugh if that bird flu they have going on there (which they're ignoring) mutates to be airborne transmittable between humans

 

[campbell]

Would laugh if that bird flu they have going on there (which they're ignoring) mutates to be airborne transmittable between humans

Sadly it could happen.

 

[Sixpence]

Needs more pictures

Drawn in crayon.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

The guy (Angelo Notta) is obviously a pea-brained tosser who went out of his way to create a scene and get some cheap publicity to lighten up his sad little steroid fuelled life.

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He got the response he wanted from the venue and obviously rang up the HUN who, eager to get the clicks from like minded idiots who form the Murdoch tabloid readership base, gave him the public platform he craved to liven up his pitiful existence.

IMHO the smart thing would have been to not link to the non-story. But now that you have, probably best to just shake our heads in private at the petty insignificance of it all and move on.

Strange thing is, if this twat had worn a cap into an RSL and refused when asked to take it off, the HUN readership base would be wanting him deported.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Likely unconstitutional\illegal and easily struck down by a court.

The Supreme Court

"Acts undertaken directly by the President are deemed to beyond and above the Constitution, as the President is able to adapt with speed to changing situations as necessary in the best interests of the United States of America".

 

[Festerz]

Likely unconstitutional\illegal and easily struck down by a court.

The fact that Trump/GOP controls Congress and the Supreme Court makes this moot.

The 2024 Supreme Court decision confirming of the power of Presidents to pardon even future acts of illegality and not be held accountabile makes the notion of 'illegality' a matter of political judgement.

 

[Chief]

The fact that Trump/GOP controls Congress and the Supreme Court makes this moot.

The 2024 Supreme Court decision confirming of the power of Presidents to pardon even future acts of illegality and not be held accountabile makes the notion of 'illegality' a matter of political judgement.

I'm talking more in the way of not legally enforceable rather than holding anyone to account.

 

[Strange Cat]

Drawn in crayon.

He would be too busy sniffing and eating them

 

[Strange Cat]

Sadly it could happen.

More than likely it will and the scary thing is with brain worm in charge of health and Trump pulling out of WHO in order to control the information..along with the changing of how FDA controls and spend state money for health emergencies

It’s going to get very very very ugly

 

[Royces Hart]

He would be too busy sniffing and eating them

Wouldn’t surprise me if an MRI revealed a crayon lodged in his brain.

 

[Tadpole]

He would be too busy sniffing and eating them

Donny and the Purple Crayon.

 

[Strange Cat]

Donny and the Purple Crayon.

Grimace and Trump have never been in the same room together

Make of that what you will

 

[Barrybran]

Needs more pictures

Dear Donald

Regards, Gustavo

 

[magpie_marty]

Just hang out on in far right-alt groups and you'll realise they have become more emboldened.

Stating outwardly they want "Trump to be Emperor" and "Gay and Trans to be eliminated or thrown out"

Don't believe the "so called centrists" that frequent these boards; they're probably looking for new recruits to their cult.

I am guilty of that,
I read Brietbart and The Gate Way pundit.
Yes I should not the articles and comment section is unreal.
Why do I do it just gives me a view of how these people think.
Marty