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Re: 34. Kyle Hardingham
Cleanest disposal on the list in my opinion, VERY confident when it's in his hands.
Cleanest disposal on the list in my opinion, VERY confident when it's in his hands.
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VFL Past #48: Kyle Hardingham - Made the VFL team of the year!
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Re: 34. Kyle Hardingham
Has been a revelation in our backline so far this season, can see him staying in the side all year as well which is a huge improvement... thought he was just a depth player end of last season.
Amazing athletic ability!!
Has been a revelation in our backline so far this season, can see him staying in the side all year as well which is a huge improvement... thought he was just a depth player end of last season.
Amazing athletic ability!!
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Re: 34. Kyle Hardingham
Big thing in his play this year is being judicious when flying for marks - Has been going up third man and killing the contest.
Like Hardingham, Heppell and Hibberd in the team because they are good in the air - and can chop out for other defenders.
Big thing in his play this year is being judicious when flying for marks - Has been going up third man and killing the contest.
Like Hardingham, Heppell and Hibberd in the team because they are good in the air - and can chop out for other defenders.
Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
While we're on the topic, Hardingham kicks into the man on the mark an awful lot. Never seen a man kick it into the MOTM so much. Most noticeable in about the last 6 games of the year. Regardless, still a big fan.
While we're on the topic, Hardingham kicks into the man on the mark an awful lot. Never seen a man kick it into the MOTM so much. Most noticeable in about the last 6 games of the year. Regardless, still a big fan.
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Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
Hardingham has easily the worst disposal in the team.
Hardingham has easily the worst disposal in the team.
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Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
Lonergan would challenge, IMO.
6/10 of Hardingham's are on the money, it's just the other 4 that are shockers.
Whereas 8/10 of Lonergan's are just "swing round, bomb into mid air, hope for best".
Lonergan would challenge, IMO.
6/10 of Hardingham's are on the money, it's just the other 4 that are shockers.
Whereas 8/10 of Lonergan's are just "swing round, bomb into mid air, hope for best".
Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
I'd probably agree with Kong. Hardingham has nerve, though, but not always composure.
I'd probably agree with Kong. Hardingham has nerve, though, but not always composure.
Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
I'm hoping Hardingham wont be best 22 this year. I like a lot of what he has, but he gets caught under the ball too often for a defender, and his disposal is one dimensional (kick as far as you can every time) and a bit wonky.
Much prefer Hibberd.
I'm hoping Hardingham wont be best 22 this year. I like a lot of what he has, but he gets caught under the ball too often for a defender, and his disposal is one dimensional (kick as far as you can every time) and a bit wonky.
Much prefer Hibberd.
Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
You don't reckon he has significant room for improvement?
You don't reckon he has significant room for improvement?
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Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
I don't think they're competing for spots, anyway.
Hardingham gives us so much flexibility back there. Even though he's only 184cm(?), he's played on key forwards during matches, and he's fitted to both "third tall" types like Andrew Walker and the smaller types like Jeff Garlett.
Whereas Hibberd seems to be your lock down small defender.
IMO both fit in.
I don't think they're competing for spots, anyway.
Hardingham gives us so much flexibility back there. Even though he's only 184cm(?), he's played on key forwards during matches, and he's fitted to both "third tall" types like Andrew Walker and the smaller types like Jeff Garlett.
Whereas Hibberd seems to be your lock down small defender.
IMO both fit in.
Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
I think he might have reached his best. I hope he can improve but I'm not sure I see it.
I think he might have reached his best. I hope he can improve but I'm not sure I see it.
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Player Watch #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
I'd argue that Henry Slattery's disposal sells us into trouble just as much. Hopefully there isnt a need to play him this year.
Whomb, The same can be said of Stants, love the guy, but when he makes an error (which is no where near as much as some people make out) its usually a glaring one.
Hardingham was immense for us last year, even if you only count the amount of times he flys 3rd man up and smashes the ball over the boundary. Lamaros, i think you under rate him. His first half of the year last year was as good as any other 3rd man up defender in the comp IMO.
I'd argue that Henry Slattery's disposal sells us into trouble just as much. Hopefully there isnt a need to play him this year.
Whomb, The same can be said of Stants, love the guy, but when he makes an error (which is no where near as much as some people make out) its usually a glaring one.
Hardingham was immense for us last year, even if you only count the amount of times he flys 3rd man up and smashes the ball over the boundary. Lamaros, i think you under rate him. His first half of the year last year was as good as any other 3rd man up defender in the comp IMO.
Re: #5: Brent Stanton - Reflecting on 2011
Interesting comment based on a bloke who established himself as a key player in our backline in his second year.
First half of the year was very good then tailed off a little toward the end of the season with some shocker single acts over a few of the late rounds.
Massive ability and still plenty of scope for improvement.
Interesting comment based on a bloke who established himself as a key player in our backline in his second year.
First half of the year was very good then tailed off a little toward the end of the season with some shocker single acts over a few of the late rounds.
Massive ability and still plenty of scope for improvement.
#34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
Clearly taking the piss but:
Stanton
Hooker
Lonergan
Davey
Collyer
Melksham
Slattery
No better than him. Not even looking at the new kids.
Clearly taking the piss but:
Stanton
Hooker
Lonergan
Davey
Collyer
Melksham
Slattery
No better than him. Not even looking at the new kids.
#34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
lol, yep, can't think of a single player that's improved after their first full season of AFL football... Not one.
#34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
He established himself as a key player as much as Myers did.
I just don't think he has as much room for improvement as some others, and his weaknesses are things I'm not a big fan off.
Happy to be proven wrong though.
He established himself as a key player as much as Myers did.
I just don't think he has as much room for improvement as some others, and his weaknesses are things I'm not a big fan off.
Happy to be proven wrong though.
#34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
IMO his kicking can at times be off but nowhere near the worst kick in the team.
As for getting lost under the ball, this happens to him rarely but when it happens it stands out spectacularly as he'll jump 6 meters in the air before the ball arrives then the pack jumps over him when he lands. Don't think it's that much of a weakness IMO
IMO his kicking can at times be off but nowhere near the worst kick in the team.
As for getting lost under the ball, this happens to him rarely but when it happens it stands out spectacularly as he'll jump 6 meters in the air before the ball arrives then the pack jumps over him when he lands. Don't think it's that much of a weakness IMO
Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
Can't think of any mature age draftees that stayed at the same level, or went backwards, either?
Can't think of any mature age draftees that stayed at the same level, or went backwards, either?
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Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
A bit harsh, neither of them are great kicks but both capable of moments of brilliance with their feet that Hardingham has never shown.
A bit harsh, neither of them are great kicks but both capable of moments of brilliance with their feet that Hardingham has never shown.
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Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
One thing I've always loved about Hardingham was his courage and ability to fly for the big grabs- That's something you can't be taught.
His kicking can be an issue at times but remember- So did Jobe's... And now he's one of the most reliable midfielders in the league.
One thing I've always loved about Hardingham was his courage and ability to fly for the big grabs- That's something you can't be taught.
His kicking can be an issue at times but remember- So did Jobe's... And now he's one of the most reliable midfielders in the league.
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Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
I'm very confident when it's in the air. Or I was say rounds 1-12.
He just seemed to time his leaps so well, and if he wasn't clunking them, he was punching the shit out ofthem.
I'm very confident when it's in the air. Or I was say rounds 1-12.
He just seemed to time his leaps so well, and if he wasn't clunking them, he was punching the shit out ofthem.
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Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
Gee some of our supporters are hard to please and have short memories. He was playing very well in the first half of the year up until he got injured, would have been regarded as most improved if not for Crameri. Then again maybe im overrating him because he is an improvement on slattery.
Gee some of our supporters are hard to please and have short memories. He was playing very well in the first half of the year up until he got injured, would have been regarded as most improved if not for Crameri. Then again maybe im overrating him because he is an improvement on slattery.
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Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
Nah, he was pretty damn good.
Nah, he was pretty damn good.
Re: #34: Kyle Hardingham - Worst kick at the club?
Jobe has always had composure and class with his disposal. It was the mechanical element of his kicking that let him down.
Hardingham doesn't have that class. What he does have is what Whomb mentioned. However he lost that in the second half of the year.
The season before last people were talking him up as a forward. Now it's as a back. Things change and it is possible that his form in the second half of the season was more normal than that in the first half.
I hope not, but it is possible.
Jobe has always had composure and class with his disposal. It was the mechanical element of his kicking that let him down.
Hardingham doesn't have that class. What he does have is what Whomb mentioned. However he lost that in the second half of the year.
The season before last people were talking him up as a forward. Now it's as a back. Things change and it is possible that his form in the second half of the season was more normal than that in the first half.
I hope not, but it is possible.
