AFL Player # 9: Dylan Shiel - Sticking around for 2025, training in the backline - 18/10

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024 2025
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 35, eth-dog

 

[quotemokc]

Should have left him on the bench.

Absolutely gutless game. A bloke like Hind gives us so much more.

Watch this potato get a full game next week with Menzie being made the sub.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

I really don't see what he offered as the sub.

This trade was an unequivocal bust.

 

[ant555]

I really don't see what he offered as the sub.

This trade was an unequivocal bust.

Would not say unequivocal. Has not worked but we basically gave up two pick fourteen’s that ended up being Caldwell and Burgman .
Trade has not played off for us results wise but the picks we gave up have not burnt us either

 

[Mikevk123]

Would not say unequivocal. Has not worked but we basically gave up two pick fourteen’s that ended up being Caldwell and Burgman .
Trade has not played off for us results wise but the picks we gave up have not burnt us either

Caldwell and Bergman are pretty handy.

 

[citizen-erased]

Not a fan of mids as subs. His introduction upset the balance we had.
Almost would have gone no sub given we were playing pretty well

 

[yodellinhank]

Not a fan of mids as subs. His introduction upset the balance we had.
Almost would have gone no sub given we were playing pretty well

Not a fan of Shiel.

 

[eth-dog]

Not a fan of Shiel.

We know

 

[citizen-erased]

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Not a fan of Shiel.

He may well be depth now

Merrett, parish, Hobbs, Caldwell, setterfield + stringer and Perkins cameos and tsatas to come in

 

[Mikevk123]

Pretty sure his injury problems are more serious than what we are being told.

 

[Blind Turn]

Was playing well before his injury. Well off the pace when injected into a hotly contested wet weather game. Not going to crucify him on the back of that showing.

 

[TheGrizz]

Not much chop when he came on - but I blame Scott, not him for that.

Bringing him straight into the midfield in the 4th was tough sledding.

 

[Zach Package]

Went from ‘**** yeah we’re going to give him time to work back into it in the twos’ to ‘wtf why is he the sub’ to ‘Jesus Christ why would you sub him on for Menzie?’

Almost as if we’re now actively trying to give him as little chance to succeed as possible at this point.

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just stupid.

 

[Ambrosia]

I’m still a big fan but crazy not to bring back as part of the 22 or through the VFL

 

[Schnitzengruben]

Would not say unequivocal. Has not worked but we basically gave up two pick fourteen’s that ended up being Caldwell and Burgman .
Trade has not played off for us results wise but the picks we gave up have not burnt us either

Yes and no. Who is to say we would've gone to the draft with those two picks? We could've knocked on every door in the comp and some new names would've popped up. It was not an effective use of capital, but I could forgive that if most of his tenure at Essendon wasn't rather underwhelming.

 

[ant555]

Caldwell and Bergman are pretty handy.

They are but we have one of them.

 

[ant555]

Yes and no. Who is to say we would've gone to the draft with those two picks? We could've knocked on every door in the comp and some new names would've popped up. It was not an effective use of capital, but I could forgive that if most of his tenure at Essendon wasn't rather underwhelming.

Anything could have happened for sure.

 

[yodellinhank]

They are but we have one of them.

And he cost two more picks to bring in.

 

[eth-dog]

And he cost two more picks to bring in.

He cost us Fantasia and James Willis, a kid who's averaging 13 disposals in the VFL who hasn't played a game.

 

[yodellinhank]

He cost us Fantasia and James Willis, a kid who's averaging 13 disposals in the VFL who hasn't played a game.

No, he cost 2 draft picks.

 

[eth-dog]

No, he cost 2 draft picks.

In the real world, he cost us Fantasia and Willis. But that doesn't suit your argument.

Shiel, Caldwell, Bryan, Eyre*
Against
Bergman, Fantasia, Willis

Fantasia hasn't done anything for Port, Willis has played 9 VFL games and is averaging 13 disposals, Bergman is a gun. If you want the picks argument, pretty sure that pick was used to match a bid.

*The later picks in the Caldwell trade went towards points for him.

 

[andleanback]

He cost us Fantasia and James Willis, a kid who's averaging 13 disposals in the VFL who hasn't played a game.

I hate comparing the kid who was taken. There’s no guarantee we would’ve taken him. Paul Curtis and soligo were still on the board and went a few picks later.

 

[yodellinhank]

In the real world, he cost us Fantasia and Willis. But that doesn't suit your argument.

No in the real world he cost us picks 29 in the 2020 draft and our 2021 second rounder.

 

[MiguelM]

I hate comparing the kid who was taken. There’s no guarantee we would’ve taken him. Paul Curtis and soligo were still on the board and went a few picks later.

Fantasia still has a body of a kid!

 

[andleanback]

Fantasia still has a body of a kid!

Fantasia is finished. Good riddance, hope he enjoys his time back in Adelaide.

 

[ghostdog]

Not a fan of mids as subs. His introduction upset the balance we had.
Almost would have gone no sub given we were playing pretty well

Agree. I keep telling my kids this; Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.