Hot Topic Death-riding Melbourne in 2025 - May they burn in hell!

[raskolnikov]

We support Melbourne against Hawthorne, Carlton, Richmond and Collingwood only

I'd be happy for Richmond to win. It will probably be one of their few wins for the year.

 

[eth-dog]

I'd be happy for Richmond to win. It will probably be one of their few wins for the year.

All the more reason to support the Dees

 

[Megabattimus]

Normally I really like Melbourne. But we've got their future first now, so **** 'em.

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[Rick Ross]

I don’t know how to channel this in our death ride exactly … maybe know your enemy?

 

[The Donners]

I don’t know how to channel this in our death ride exactly … maybe know your enemy?

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I’m trying not to like this but…

 

[Milanista28]

Boo

 

[daffo]

Really hope we end up keeping this pick.

My guess is that if Kako isn't bid on by pick 11 we trade Dees FF to Richmond.

Tigers should to swap two of their first 7 picks to the 2025 draft. I just hope we don't add a future 3rd as well.

 

[ant555]

Really hope we end up keeping this pick.

My guess is that if Kako isn't bid on by pick 11 we trade Dees FF to Richmond.

Tigers should to swap two of their first 7 picks to the 2025 draft. I just hope we don't add a future 3rd as well.

Any deal with the Tigers will depend on if there is a deal to be done with North for pick 2. Tigers would maybe offer 6 & 18 . North will likely want 6 & 10. Could end up being 6 & 11 for 2 and a F2 as a guess. You are right as far as them wanting to spread the load but there will be a few interested parties.

Last year it cost us #11 and #31 to get #10 off Geelong. I suspect it will cost more than a F1 to get back in at 11 if they have it.

 

[Yoda_]

Can someone explain the point of "trading back in"?

If Kako is bid on at 5 - 9, picks 28 + 31 + 40 are eaten up, bid on between 10 - 18 then 28 + 31 are eaten up.

What is the idea, Melbournes future first + pick 40 for a pick in the early teens ?

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Can someone explain the point of "trading back in"?

If Kako is bid on at 5 - 9, picks 28 + 31 + 40 are eaten up, bid on between 10 - 18 then 28 + 31 are eaten up.

What is the idea, Melbournes future first + pick 40 for a pick in the early teens ?

That's the idea, and my guess would be there would only be a couple of players who may still be left after the Kako bid that we'd consider pulling the trigger on.

 

[ant555]

Can someone explain the point of "trading back in"?

If Kako is bid on at 5 - 9, picks 28 + 31 + 40 are eaten up, bid on between 10 - 18 then 28 + 31 are eaten up.

What is the idea, Melbournes future first + pick 40 for a pick in the early teens ?

It is more if he is not bid on at 5-9. If we get to pick 10 and the Tigers still have it and 11 then we trade back in. Of course the Tigers may not have it by then.
The other trade back in option is we get to around pick 16 or so and we rate one of the KP forwards left or someone else then we look to get back in.

 

[Vindicater]

Can someone explain the point of "trading back in"?

If Kako is bid on at 5 - 9, picks 28 + 31 + 40 are eaten up, bid on between 10 - 18 then 28 + 31 are eaten up.

What is the idea, Melbournes future first + pick 40 for a pick in the early teens ?

I am not really a fan of trading back in after a Kako bid. I am more for trading back into a pick before Kako if his bid comes late.

 

[jdstorm]

Can someone explain the point of "trading back in"?

If Kako is bid on at 5 - 9, picks 28 + 31 + 40 are eaten up, bid on between 10 - 18 then 28 + 31 are eaten up.

What is the idea, Melbournes future first + pick 40 for a pick in the early teens ?

We won’t pick at 28/31 we will either use those picks + F1 to trade up before a Kako bid for a player we like or we trade out to match Kako with up to 4 picks in the 40s or later then back in during the 30s if there are any players we like that have dropped. Then we use the picks we’ve aquired to trade back in for those specific players

 

[The Donners]

That's the idea, and my guess would be there would only be a couple of players who may still be left after the Kako bid that we'd consider pulling the trigger on.

Armstrong I’d hope.

 

[ant555]

I am not really a fan of trading back in after a Kako bid. I am more for trading back into a pick before Kako if his bid comes late.

Will be costly. That is my issue.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Can someone explain the point of "trading back in"?

If Kako is bid on at 5 - 9, picks 28 + 31 + 40 are eaten up, bid on between 10 - 18 then 28 + 31 are eaten up.

What is the idea, Melbournes future first + pick 40 for a pick in the early teens ?

Doesnt have to be for anything other melbournes future first. Richmond may want to spread their draft hand over a few years to even out age profile on the list in coming years.

 

[Yoda_]

I dont get why we would trade back in before a Kako bid having moved out to offset this possibility

 

[The Donners]

I dont get why we would trade back in before a Kako bid having moved out to offset this possibility

Another club would’ve made a “spite” bid. Trading back in will avoid this.

 

[Yoda_]

Another club would’ve made a “spite” bid. Trading back in will avoid this.

I dont think I have ever seen one. History suggests academy bids nearly always fall. Even father / sons go later than expected. Only Jamara is one who was best available in the draft went at 1

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I dont think I have ever seen one. History suggests academy bids nearly always fall. Even father / sons go later than expected. Only Jamara is one who was best available in the draft went at 1

True but I there is a fair case to make that Melbourne have recently drafted for a bunch of other roles and a Kako bid as the best small forward would be on the cards for a team who thinks they could win the flag next year and have a gap in that role. Its a luxury of drafting for needs basis that lower down teams rarely have.

 

[Howard Moon]

I dont get why we would trade back in before a Kako bid having moved out to offset this possibility

If you are trading with a club on the night for their pick they clearly arnt bidding on Kako with it. So you have cornered the market, no? Get to use the high pick then Kako can get a bid anytime after which gets eaten with the second rounders

 

[sregit]

Doesnt have to be for anything other melbournes future first. Richmond may want to spread their draft hand over a few years to even out age profile on the list in coming years.

I come in peace.
Would it really be worth trying to trade back into the draft in the first round? I doubt it. North tried to trade their F1 for 13 and have not got a buyer yet. Everyone is saying next years draft is ordinary and it seems that the future picks are not holding a lot of value. With what teams are asking for round 1 picks seems excessive and I don’t think your F1’s will get a pick inside 20.
I suppose if a player you rate highly slips then it may be considered worth selling the farm for, else I think you take Kako and next best and take your F1’s to 2025. Thoughts?

 

[jdstorm]

I come in peace.
Would it really be worth trying to trade back into the draft in the first round? I doubt it. North tried to trade their F1 for 13 and have not got a buyer yet. Everyone is saying next years draft is ordinary and it seems that the future picks are not holding a lot of value. With what teams are asking for round 1 picks seems excessive and I don’t think your F1’s will get a pick inside 20.
I suppose if a player you rate highly slips then it may be considered worth selling the farm for, else I think you take Kako and next best and take your F1’s to 2025. Thoughts?

Seems likely.

Like you said if present picks are overvalued and future picks undervalued may as well trade with value and hope to get lucky next year

 

[sregit]

Seems likely.

Like you said if present picks are overvalued and future picks undervalued may as well trade with value and hope to get lucky next year

Yes I think you’re right

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I come in peace.
Would it really be worth trying to trade back into the draft in the first round? I doubt it. North tried to trade their F1 for 13 and have not got a buyer yet. Everyone is saying next years draft is ordinary and it seems that the future picks are not holding a lot of value. With what teams are asking for round 1 picks seems excessive and I don’t think your F1’s will get a pick inside 20.
I suppose if a player you rate highly slips then it may be considered worth selling the farm for, else I think you take Kako and next best and take your F1’s to 2025. Thoughts?

The last time I saw the industry this collectively excited about a draft was 2006 and it turned out to be horseshit with the exception of about 6 players in the top 30. Its smart business to split your hand over 2 drafts to mitigate bias.

Theres about 6 players id trade back in for. Once they are gone i wouldnt bother.