AFL Player # 9: Dylan Shiel - Sticking around for 2025, training in the backline - 18/10

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024 2025
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 35, eth-dog

 

[lenny2013]

A move could be of mutual benefit to both parties.

We need to rebalance our midfield and introduce better users of the ball.
It would be win for Dyl end up at a contender late in his career.

 

[Jobe Watson]

We should've traded him 2 years ago, but oh well.

If he stays he's probably battling it out with Perkins for a HFF/mid spot in the 22, which is more an indictment on Perkins than anything else. Parish, Merrett, Hobbs, Setterfield and Caldwell all ahead of him for on-ball time, with Tsatas also needing the minutes.

I'd see if St.Kilda are interested - they could use a bit of burst speed in their midfield and a mature player like Shiel could help them hold their top 8 spot.

 

[yodellinhank]

We would get peanuts. Better off keeping him given cap isn’t an issue currently.

Take the nuts.

 

[ghostdog]

I think the only reason I'm keeping Shiel now is for the leadership he shows through his setting of professional standards, and I think that would be the main reason Scott might keep him. Otherwise, he needs to go so we can refine the composition of the midfield. I'd think any club that thinks it has a show to win the 24 premiership would be looking at whether Shiel can bolster their chances and depth.

 

[ghostdog]

Is it just my memory, or was he going ok in that role? Looking at his goal tally suggests otherwise but something is telling me he was better than expected there. I can't recall when or why he may have been shifted out based on injuries in the team etc.

He was nailing his shots at goal before injury, which was a huge improvement on 2022.

 

[ant555]

He was nailing his shots at goal before injury, which was a huge improvement on 2022.

Was rated in the top 20 midfielders by champion data before he got injured.

 

[Runk]

Trade to St Kilda for pick 32. Cheers

 

[ghostdog]

Was rated in the top 20 midfielders by champion data before he got injured.

I don't have any issue with his skill, experience, leadership or professionalism, and would happily keep him. It's his age and our chance to make draft moves, and for that reason I'd also happily move him on. I think Scott keeps him.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

If we can get a second rounder at least you probably take it. We’d be paying a huge whack of his salary but that’s not an issue.

Having said that, not sure having no veterans at all on the list is that healthy.

 

[Nifft]

If we can get a second rounder at least you probably take it. We’d be paying a huge whack of his salary but that’s not an issue.

Having said that, not sure having no veterans at all on the list is that healthy.

Maybe we could target a couple of no nonsense veteran types. Not sure if anyone is available or not. Shiel's training standards have always been impressive, but I've never heard of him being mentioned as having good leadership qualities despite being a senior player.

 

[DERO]

Keep. He was good prior to injury and was a large part of why we were travelling so well earlier in the year.

 

[srobbo]

Ships sailed as far his currency’s concerned, so we keep. Was outstanding first third of the season, so we back him in to get healthy & stay healthy.

 

[Kong]

Keep. He was good prior to injury and was a large part of why we were travelling so well earlier in the year.

Agree, trade Parish instead.

 

[DERO]

Agree, trade Parish instead.

5 more years baby!

 

[Nifft]

Keep. He was good prior to injury and was a large part of why we were travelling so well earlier in the year.

I like Shiel and think he's a very good player, but we seem to have a logjam of mids, and I think we'd be better off getting another Setterfield type whilst giving players like Hobbs, Caldwell and Tsatas more midfield time. So I wouldn't be upset if we traded Shiel.

 

[faible]

I like Shiel and think he's a very good player, but we seem to have a logjam of mids, and I think we'd be better off getting another Setterfield type whilst giving players like Hobbs, Caldwell and Tsatas more midfield time. So I wouldn't be upset if we traded Shiel.

He was also sold a bit of a lemon when we traded him in then completely changed directions to rebuild the list, giving him the option of going elsewhere if he wants seems sensible.

 

[Nifft]

He was also sold a bit of a lemon when we traded him in then completely changed directions to rebuild the list, giving him the option of going elsewhere if he wants seems sensible.

100% I agree. I wouldn't mind seeing him get some success at another team. He hasn't got that long left and we're still at least a few years away you'd think.

 

[DERO]

Does he want to go/ what is fair value if he does?

 

[Nifft]

Does he want to go/ what is fair value if he does?

If he wanted to stay you'd keep him for sure. I wouldn't push him out. However he might be playing more forward time than he'd prefer.

But if he was happy to move then it could free up midfield time for others. If that was the case I wouldn't ask for too much, and maybe even pay some of his salary. The extra list spot is benefitial for us.

 

[ant555]

Does he want to go/ what is fair value if he does?

Would probably depend on if we had to pay some of his coin.

 

[thebigboy]

Does he want to go/ what is fair value if he does?

At a club in contention, you could argue that a late first for Shiel and our 2nd is doable considering contract size and age.

 

[Lore]

Would probably depend on if we had to pay some of his coin.

Given our cap position if he was traded out you could pay a heap of salary and get a good pick in return. Possibly also bring in a player they can't afford anymore and take that entire salary too as part of the same deal.

I dunno who "they" are, if there are any clubs in a position that might want a deal like that.

 

[andleanback]

Would probably depend on if we had to pay some of his coin.

Only 1 year left, would be surprised if there’s not much left on his deal. Would be happy to pay 200-300 of it, if we could get a 2nd rounder out of it.

 

[sydney_gws]

At a club in contention, you could argue that a late first for Shiel and our 2nd is doable considering contract size and age.

Would a trade of Haynes, 13 for
Shiel , 2024r2,2024r3 be ok.

 

[thebigboy]

Would a trade of Haynes, 13 for
Shiel , 2024r2,2024r3 be ok.

Some combination of that as a salary dump would be fine but it would be a very tough sell to want Shiel, F2 & F3 considering the net salary cap savings for GWS would be close to $700k