Opinion A Malcom Blight Style Intervention

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A Blight like intervention means someone whips the place into shape and the board and administration allows big change to happen including chopping favoured sons and wears the heat of this action.

I don't want an old bloke who hasn't coached for 10 or 20 years to get the gig to do this. Blight had 2 seasons off from coaching Geelong before basically John Reid - Blight's old assistant coach at Woodville - went and chased him.

As I wrote the other day in response to JimmyBC's post wondering why Hinkley being a protege of Blight isn't prepared to do a Blight when it comes to players who should be cut, he left Woodville in 1987 to go to Victoria, not for footy reasons or to call the footy for 7 in 1988, he left because he got a promotion and was made National Manager of Brambles Transport/CHEP. In today's $$$, that means he was head of a billion dollar division of a major public company.

He had the smarts as well as the toughness to make big decisions. Public companies with 6 monthly reporting to the stock exchange are held accountable by institutional investors, which means boards and executives are held accountable to deliver on targets and budgets.

There are no coaches like that - not available anyway. Clarko and Dimma would have had a similar aura and more runs on the board than Blight had in 1996, but we didn't go after them hard enough. Longmire and Chris Scott?? maybe but they wont come to Port.

Dennis Pagan had been a coach in waiting for years, all those flags and GFs at North's U/19, and then went to be Sheedy's assistant at the 'Dons and won a reserves flag straight away. He was able to come in after Shimma was sacked after North lost a preseason game by 20 goals in 1993, and have a Blight like impact, partly because he was North Melbourne, partly because he had coached most of the best players on the list via the U/19's when the draft wasn't like today's draft, and partly the strength of his personality. I don't see a Dennis Pagan on the horizon.

The best chance to do a Blight type intervention probably is to get an all powerful Footy Ops Manager - like Neil Balme. But he wont come for health reasons. Gubby Allan might be the next best one. CD has to go. He has recommended Ken for every one of his contract extensions. Can't see us getting a Benny Gale/Brian Cook type CEO to be that person at the top who oversees all the big changes.

Josh Mahoney might be our best bet. Was at Melbourne between 2013 and 2020 seasons and did a lot of ground work for their 2021 flag. He went to Essendon between 2021-23 seasons and some of his good work is bearing fruit this season. He started the gig as GM of Football Operations at the AFL at end of 2023 season, and isn't given the executive GM role like Stephen Hocking and Adrian Anderson before him and has to report to Lara Kane.

He might not like being 2IC and who knows, Tredders might be able to convince him to come on board and be his key ally in getting our club back to being what it used to be.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
A Blight like intervention means someone whips the place into shape and the board and administration allows big change to happen including chopping favoured sons and wears the heat of this action.

I don't want an old bloke who hasn't coached for 10 or 20 years to get the gig to do this. Blight had 2 seasons off from coaching Geelong before basically John Reid - Blight's old assistant coach at Woodville - went and chased him.

As I wrote the other day in response to JimmyBC's post wondering why Hinkley being a protege of Blight isn't prepared to do a Blight when it comes to players who should be cut, he left Woodville in 1987 to go to Victoria, not for footy reasons or to call the footy for 7 in 1988, he left because he got a promotion and was made National Manager of Brambles Transport/CHEP. In today's $$$, that means he was head of a billion dollar division of a major public company.

He had the smarts as well as the toughness to make big decisions. Public companies with 6 monthly reporting to the stock exchange are held accountable by institutional investors, which means boards and executives are held accountable to deliver on targets and budgets.

There are no coaches like that - not available anyway. Clarko and Dimma would have had a similar aura and more runs on the board than Blight had in 1996, but we didn't go after them hard enough. Longmire and Chris Scott?? maybe but they wont come to Port.

Dennis Pagan had been a coach in waiting for years, all those flags and GFs at North's U/19, and then went to be Sheedy's assistant at the 'Dons and won a reserves flag straight away. He was able to come in after Shimma was sacked after North lost a preseason game by 20 goals in 1993, and have a Blight like impact, partly because he was North Melbourne, partly because he had coached most of the best players on the list via the U/19's when the draft wasn't like today's draft, and partly the strength of his personality. I don't see a Dennis Pagan on the horizon.

The best chance to do a Blight type intervention probably is to get an all powerful Footy Ops Manager - like Neil Balme. But he wont come for health reasons. Gubby Allan might be the next best one. CD has to go. He has recommended Ken for every one of his contract extensions. Can't see us getting a Benny Gale/Brian Cook type CEO to be that person at the top who oversees all the big changes.

Josh Mahoney might be our best bet. Was at Melbourne between 2013 and 2020 seasons and did a lot of ground work for their 2021 flag. He went to Essendon between 2021-23 seasons and some of his good work is bearing fruit this season. He started the gig as GM of Football Operations at the AFL at end of 2023 season, and isn't given the executive GM role like Stephen Hocking and Adrian Anderson before him and has to report to Lara Kane.

He might not like being 2IC and who knows, Tredders might be able to convince him to come on board and be his key ally in getting our club back to being what it used to be.
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You can’t forget Paul Roos contribution to the Demons resurgence.

Would you prefer an external coaching appointment who hasn’t been exposed to the Port fish bowl, or would you be happy to give Carr a go?

We’ve gone from a club who once sacked its greatest player/servant (Ebert) as head coach after 3 seasons of failure, to not being able to pull the trigger on a complete mug. How times have changed.
 
Sewer de Lance said:
You can’t forget Paul Roos contribution to the Demons resurgence.

Would you prefer an external coaching appointment who hasn’t been exposed to the Port fish bowl, or would you be happy to give Carr a go?

We’ve gone from a club who once sacked its greatest player/servant (Ebert) as head coach after 3 seasons of failure, to not being able to pull the trigger on a complete mug. How times have changed.
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I want an open process, but if Carr being stitched up means its easier to get rid of Ken, then I can wear that.

I live in hope that the mongrel that Carr was on the field, comes out as a head coach. The flaky nice back flanker Ken was as a player, came out as a flaky coach.

But we need a few decent assistants and a new GM Footy and need to bolster our footy department across the board.

I'd get Shaun Burgoyne involved more. You don't play in 6 GFs, 4 flags, 35 finals - the 3rd most ever, coached by driven bastards like Choco and Clarko and not be able to help the players. He might not make a great assistant coach, but I think he has the goods to be a very good development coach. He has plenty of tricks to pass on.
 
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Sewer de Lance said:
You can’t forget Paul Roos contribution to the Demons resurgence.
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Lots of people contributed to Melbourne's flag, but very few people survived year after year of shit results and then the turnaround, like Mahoney.
 
longdonkey said:
IF we had dropped the Hawthorn, Freo and Geelong games we would be 13th right now. And we should have dropped all 3.

No way we are making the 8.
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I don’t really understand this logic.

I think we’ll make the 8 and go out in the first or second week but this no way we are making the 8 talk is pure hyperbole. Yeah it’s a chance we don’t but there is a greater chance we do.

We were statistically the better team in all those games you say we should’ve lost too.

Honestly, everyone besides sydney look pretty flakey. The top 4 is fraudulent besides the swans. Arguably we are the second best team in the 4. But there are probably a couple sides out of the 4 clearly better than us.


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Willsy10 said:
I don’t really understand this logic.

I think we’ll make the 8 and go out in the first or second week but this no way we are making the 8 talk is pure hyperbole. Yeah it’s a chance we don’t but there is a greater chance we do.

We were statistically the better team in all those games you say we should’ve lost too.

Honestly, everyone besides sydney look pretty flakey. The top 4 is fraudulent besides the swans. Arguably we are the second best team in the 4. But there are probably a couple sides out of the 4 clearly better than us.


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Well if history is any guide we will end up with 12 or 13 wins with us losing the last 4 straight.
And in my opinion that will have us 10th to 12th.

Using history as a guide - we fall away at the end of year, we lose Showdowns and we lose when a lot is on the line.

We are regularly statistically better when we lose that's just a by-product of the terrible Hinkley gameplan.

I hope I'm wrong because even if we miss the finals I still expect to see that stupid smirking face there next year.
 
I can't see anyone else but Carr taking over not sure how I feel about this to be honest if so
Would Lade come back to help Carr
Is Burgoyne interested in coaching 🤔
I want someone who hasn't played for Port in the box also.
The boys club needs to be pulled down
 
Watto71 said:
I can't see anyone else but Carr taking over not sure how I feel about this to be honest if so
Would Lade come back to help Carr
Is Burgoyne interested in coaching 🤔
I want someone who hasn't played for Port in the box also.
The boys club needs to be pulled down
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I believe that Ladey has ruled out coming back at least until his kids have gone through school and I suspect until Hinkley is gone.
 

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I don't understand that people are overly critical of jobs going internally. The biggest mistakes of the past 20 years have always been external appointments. Hinkley, Laidley any number of assistant coaches. But the cancer is Hinkley it all begins with him. If Hinkley falls so do all the leaches and I think Koch would fall too.
 
Watto71 said:
I can't see anyone else but Carr taking over not sure how I feel about this to be honest if so
Would Lade come back to help Carr
Is Burgoyne interested in coaching 🤔
I want someone who hasn't played for Port in the box also.
The boys club needs to be pulled down
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If you ask me, the worst performing people at our club are Koch, Hinkley, Davies and Richardson. All are non Port people.
 
longdonkey said:
I don't understand that people are overly critical of jobs going internally. The biggest mistakes of the past 20 years have always been external appointments. Hinkley, Laidley any number of assistant coaches. But the cancer is Hinkley it all begins with him. If Hinkley falls so do all the leaches and I think Koch would fall too.
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You're looking at it the wrong way. It's one person surrounding themselves with acolytes and supplicants.
Chad Cornes has been promoted to forward role and done not much, Carry got a gold pass back, Goldsack gifted a role from playing stocks and a non-finals making year in the SANFL, he's replaced by Hartlett and Lobbe, the most expensive non-event ruckman in the history, is in charge of development and rucks, Cam Sutcliffe is a dev coach.

Look up hack coaching panel in Macquarie and you'll see PAFC as the example. It's shit.
 
Workingclass said:
You're looking at it the wrong way. It's one person surrounding themselves with acolytes and supplicants.
Chad Cornes has been promoted to forward role and done not much, Carry got a gold pass back, Goldsack gifted a role from playing stocks and a non-finals making year in the SANFL, he's replaced by Hartlett and Lobbe, the most expensive non-event ruckman in the history, is in charge of development and rucks, Cam Sutcliffe is a dev coach.

Look up hack coaching panel in Macquarie and you'll see PAFC as the example. It's shit.
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I know but they are there because of Hinkley. No way those guys survive under good management and if they do then they are probably the best person for the job. If you get rid on the crud assistants and Hinkley is still there he just gets other crud assistants nobody decent is coming here while Hinkley is here and I suspect Carr is only here because of family agreements.
 
longdonkey said:
Well if history is any guide we will end up with 12 or 13 wins with us losing the last 4 straight.
And in my opinion that will have us 10th to 12th.

Using history as a guide - we fall away at the end of year, we lose Showdowns and we lose when a lot is on the line.

We are regularly statistically better when we lose that's just a by-product of the terrible Hinkley gameplan.

I hope I'm wrong because even if we miss the finals I still expect to see that stupid smirking face there next year.
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How on earth is 12 or 13 wins going to put us in 12th? 10th at worst but even that seems like a stretch. I reckon 13 wins and a decent percentage gets you in the 8.


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Willsy10 said:
How on earth is 12 or 13 wins going to put us in 12th? 10th at worst but even that seems like a stretch. I reckon 13 wins and a decent percentage gets you in the 8.


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13 wins will probably make it however there is no guarantee we will get 13 I think 11 or 12 could be more likely

You can pencil in

Richmond at home
St Kilda away

the rest we could drop

but we could win

Brisbane home
Western Bulldogs home
Gold Coast away
Fremantle away
Adelaide home

so that is anywhere between 10 and 15 wins but if we lost all 5 could wins then I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Our form is not convincing yet again after Hinkley's missing links we are still not very good. So what is it next year small defenders missing link.
 
edgie said:
Chocolate won't ever be able to stay in his lane at Port. I love the idea but it's no good. He's a megalomaniac and thinks the club is his birthright. Fos and Jack knew their place as the coach and let the administration administer.

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Could be argued that we need a coach right now.

Michael Jordan in “The Last Dance” said of the general manager Jerry Krause (words to the effect of) “Absolutely, it takes an organisation with front office staff and management doing their job to win a championship. But undoubtedly the on field is the most important part.”
 
longdonkey said:
13 wins will probably make it however there is no guarantee we will get 13 I think 11 or 12 could be more likely

You can pencil in

Richmond at home
St Kilda away

the rest we could drop

but we could win

Brisbane home
Western Bulldogs home
Gold Coast away
Fremantle away
Adelaide home

so that is anywhere between 10 and 15 wins but if we lost all 5 could wins then I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Our form is not convincing yet again after Hinkley's missing links we are still not very good. So what is it next year small defenders missing link.
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Yeah I guess we could finish 12th if we only get 7 more games?


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RussellEbertHandball said:
A Blight like intervention means someone whips the place into shape and the board and administration allows big change to happen including chopping favoured sons and wears the heat of this action.

I don't want an old bloke who hasn't coached for 10 or 20 years to get the gig to do this. Blight had 2 seasons off from coaching Geelong before basically John Reid - Blight's old assistant coach at Woodville - went and chased him.

As I wrote the other day in response to JimmyBC's post wondering why Hinkley being a protege of Blight isn't prepared to do a Blight when it comes to players who should be cut, he left Woodville in 1987 to go to Victoria, not for footy reasons or to call the footy for 7 in 1988, he left because he got a promotion and was made National Manager of Brambles Transport/CHEP. In today's $$$, that means he was head of a billion dollar division of a major public company.

He had the smarts as well as the toughness to make big decisions. Public companies with 6 monthly reporting to the stock exchange are held accountable by institutional investors, which means boards and executives are held accountable to deliver on targets and budgets.

There are no coaches like that - not available anyway. Clarko and Dimma would have had a similar aura and more runs on the board than Blight had in 1996, but we didn't go after them hard enough. Longmire and Chris Scott?? maybe but they wont come to Port.

Dennis Pagan had been a coach in waiting for years, all those flags and GFs at North's U/19, and then went to be Sheedy's assistant at the 'Dons and won a reserves flag straight away. He was able to come in after Shimma was sacked after North lost a preseason game by 20 goals in 1993, and have a Blight like impact, partly because he was North Melbourne, partly because he had coached most of the best players on the list via the U/19's when the draft wasn't like today's draft, and partly the strength of his personality. I don't see a Dennis Pagan on the horizon.

The best chance to do a Blight type intervention probably is to get an all powerful Footy Ops Manager - like Neil Balme. But he wont come for health reasons. Gubby Allan might be the next best one. CD has to go. He has recommended Ken for every one of his contract extensions. Can't see us getting a Benny Gale/Brian Cook type CEO to be that person at the top who oversees all the big changes.

Josh Mahoney might be our best bet. Was at Melbourne between 2013 and 2020 seasons and did a lot of ground work for their 2021 flag. He went to Essendon between 2021-23 seasons and some of his good work is bearing fruit this season. He started the gig as GM of Football Operations at the AFL at end of 2023 season, and isn't given the executive GM role like Stephen Hocking and Adrian Anderson before him and has to report to Lara Kane.

He might not like being 2IC and who knows, Tredders might be able to convince him to come on board and be his key ally in getting our club back to being what it used to be.
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Josh Mahoney from villain to hero.
 
PowerLil said:
If you ask me, the worst performing people at our club are Koch, Hinkley, Davies and Richardson. All are non Port people.
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Have any of these blokes ever experienced success though?

Outside of Hinkley being an assistant at a team of drug cheats none of them have even been close to winning have they?

Bring in champions.
 

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