Ablett doesn't rate until he gets the No.1 tag *MB thread*

[Chism]

It is this effectiveness that we should rate him on, and not the 46 disposals games where nobody is on him. (Rd 4 2009).

Luke Hodge says hi.

Yet you have a pivotal point from this thread in your signature.

Lol was waiting for this!! It is just in case you bump your Anti Judd threads in future. See you completely own yourself you nimrod. Go through your Threads that you have started and see the Judd ones, then read my signature.

No body gives a crap what you say.

 

[STC]

Please guys, don't feed the troll.

 

[barmy44]

Let's say they deserve it.

Does it really mean that the player is instantly a better player because he is on weaker opposition?

Ablett plays on weaker opposition more often than not. When he does get the best tag, his effectiveness is diminished.

It is this effectiveness that we should rate him on, and not the 46 disposals games where nobody is on him. (Rd 4 2009).

15 professional coaches fail to see that with a tag ablett ain't a champ player no more. but you do. are you really norm smith?

 

[barmy44]

Please guys, don't feed the troll.

but by feeding the troll, we get dished up comedy gold! im going to keep feeding him until he is fit to burst.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I doubt Kangaroos supporters will rate Carey's game on Andy Gowers (a half-back flanker) as impressive as the QF he played on Chris Langford (a champion defender).

Even if he did dominate the game more in the first instance.

It's very much about your opponent.

You're right, Carey just moved down 5 spots in my all time rankings.

 

[kreuze_missile]

so until ablett plays on ling, he cant be rated...

Ling is 1/10th of the tagger that Aaron Joesph is

 

[winty]

Until he consistently gets the No.1 tagger.

Yet in another thread you label Leigh Matthews as the AFL's Don Bradman. How many taggers were running around in the 70's and 80's?

 

[Big Nasty]

I doubt Kangaroos supporters will rate Carey's game on Andy Gowers (a half-back flanker) as impressive as the QF he played on Chris Langford (a champion defender).

Even if he did dominate the game more in the first instance.

It's very much about your opponent.

Such a great defender he had 9 goals kicked on him in a grand final.

 

[Big Nasty]

Yet in another thread you label Leigh Matthews as the AFL's Don Bradman. How many taggers were running around in the 70's and 80's?

More to the point, how many players weren't running around with a beer & cigarette in their hands back in the Lethal/thug era?

In today's game it's more about how fit you are to succeed in the competition... Back in Leigh's days it was more about how many beers you could chug back.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Such a great defender he had 9 goals kicked on him in a grand final.

Doesn't count because Abletts choke in big games.

 

[Big Nasty]

Doesn't count because Abletts choke in big games.

Actually Langford was on the bench when Ablett kicked those nine goals, so he only dominates against the second rate defenders.

 

[STC]

Working beautifully gents It's like vintage Claw on Bay 13.

By the way Podgey, how does Hodge go on the number 1 tagger? Sure, he plays well when Mathew Stokes, our least defensive forward, is on him, but how does he go when, I dunno, Cameron Ling tags him?

 

[catspremiers2007]

Working beautifully gents It's like vintage Claw on Bay 13.

By the way Podgey, how does Hodge go on the number 1 tagger? Sure, he plays well when Mathew Stokes, our least defensive forward, is on him, but how does he go when, I dunno, Cameron Ling tags him?

Prepare for some Hodgepodge 'stats'



























Unless he does his usual disapearing act once he has been owned 100 times in his threads

 

[Hodgepodge]

Yet in another thread you label Leigh Matthews as the AFL's Don Bradman. How many taggers were running around in the 70's and 80's?

Plenty, and they used dirty tactics.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Working beautifully gents It's like vintage Claw on Bay 13.

By the way Podgey, how does Hodge go on the number 1 tagger? Sure, he plays well when Mathew Stokes, our least defensive forward, is on him, but how does he go when, I dunno, Cameron Ling tags him?

Stokes' role was to get away from Hodge and kick goals on him. So his job wasn't to tag Hodge. That was Rooke's. In the end, none of them were able to stop Hodge being the dominant player on the ground.

Even with OP this year Hodge did prety well in the midfield.

The game against Ling was poor, but he did well against other taggers like Kane Cornes for example.

 

[mess]

Ling is 10/1ths of the tagger that Aaron Joesph is

fixed.

 

[Hodgepodge]

"What we saw this year was teams basically concede he was going to get X number of possessions and just let him run free and focus on stopping other Geelong players."

I think the debate is over when even Sportsbet is onto it.

Ablett doesn't get much attention.

And for those Geelong supporters that say he doesn't get tagged because he's untaggable we have the fact that he hasn't had a 30 touch game against a premier tagger this year.

 

[catspremiers2007]

I think the debate is over when even Sportsbet is onto it.

Ablett doesn't get much attention.

And for those Geelong supporters that say he doesn't get tagged because he's untaggable we have the fact that he hasn't had a 30 touch game against a premier tagger this year.

OK so he was tagged by a premier tagger?

 

[Hodgepodge]

OK so he was tagged by a premier tagger?

We've had this conversation before. I think the details are in the OP.

 

[Topper Harley]

I think the debate is over when even Sportsbet is onto it.

Ablett doesn't get much attention.

And for those Geelong supporters that say he doesn't get tagged because he's untaggable we have the fact that he hasn't had a 30 touch game against a premier tagger this year.

You've stated before that Ablett's stats mean very little when assesing his games.

So why do they mean so much now when you're using them to boost your argument?

 

[Hodgepodge]

You've stated before that Ablett's stats mean very little when assesing his games.

So why do they mean so much now when you're using them to boost your argument?

They obviously indicate something. If you want a figure I'd say 30-40% of his possessions are junk. Obviously 40% of 25 is less than 40% of 45.

 

[catspremiers2007]

backpeddling.

Cheers for your honesty

 

[Hodgepodge]

It's established fact now that Ablett doesn't get tagged. Both tv and print media have mentioned it, and now the betting agencies.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Cheers for your honesty

I'd never spell backpedalling like that

 

[catspremiers2007]

It's established fact now that Ablett doesn't get tagged. Both tv and print media have mentioned it, and now the betting agencies.

What HAS been established is that Hodge can't handle a tag when he goes into the guts.

The difference between Ablett and Hodge when tagged in the midfield is about 20 quality possesions