hack is over the top
but he doesn't deserve the supposed $1m a year contract he is making
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Ablett Vs Judd - Alot closer than you all think!!
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hack is over the top
but he doesn't deserve the supposed $1m a year contract he is making
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Disagree.
Exactly. Look, put this in perspective, your teams playing Geelong or Carlton. I'm pretty sure Judd at his best is more of a threat.Yeah, but when Judd was 21, where was Ablett? Thats my arguement!
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We really don't have a lot of great midfielders these days. In the past we had Hird, Voss, Buckley, McLeod, Williams, all competing for the same Brownlow. Now we have Judd, Ablett, but after that it drops off.
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Ablett also doesn't get tagged, as mentioned on Footy Classified last night.
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No but we have up and comers who will change the game in a different way.
The Buckley, Hird, Roo days were Hard at it, consistent, marathon like style of play.
Ablett and Judd days are more of a fast paced, get the job done, magical like style of play.
After this, you'll have the likes of Gibbs, Rioli, Palmer, Deledio who'll change the game again..
The Buckley, Hird, Roo days were Hard at it, consistent, marathon like style of play.
Ablett and Judd days are more of a fast paced, get the job done, magical like style of play.
After this, you'll have the likes of Gibbs, Rioli, Palmer, Deledio who'll change the game again..
Yeah, but when Judd was 21, where was Ablett? Thats my arguement!
he was doing good things as a small forward
anyway history will shine brighter on the guy who performed at his prime, than the guy who shone too brightly early
and if current performances are any indicators, ablett will continue his brownlow performances into the next few seasons
judd will linger at AA periphery
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No but we have up and comers who will change the game in a different way.
The Buckley, Hird, Roo days were Hard at it, consistent, marathon like style of play.
Ablett and Judd days are more of a fast paced, get the job done, magical like style of play.
After this, you'll have the likes of Gibbs, Rioli, Palmer, Deledio who'll change the game again..
How so?
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thats because he seems immune to being tagged.
Ablett is so far ahead of everyone else in the AFL, it's just madness.
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But wouldn't the person who shone first, always have the more accolades on and off the pitch?
I guess in 2 years time, Rioli will advance his game even more, and will become the new "Ablett". Then people will be saying "Ablett who?". Going by your arguement anyways..
Ablett doesn't get tagged because he's proven he can break the tag time and again, which just meant the opposition coach was wasting a player that could have been winning the ball.
I love these 'pointless one two disposal' comments I'm hearing...if they're pointless why does he do them? All the Cats do this style of footy because it helps them get out of trouble, give to a free man, then run on and go forward. Nothing that team does is pointless at the moment and the 5-0 record proves that.
As for Judd, at his best he's as good as what Ablett is ATM. But ATM Judd is not at his best.
They're clearly the two best midfielders in the comp, but Ablett gets the help that Judd doesn't get which does make it easier for him, giving him the chance to play at his best.
So it's not that Judd's injured or he's past it, it's that he doesn't have the chance to play at his best like he did at West Coast.
PS OP, there's a difference between 'then' and 'than'.
I love these 'pointless one two disposal' comments I'm hearing...if they're pointless why does he do them? All the Cats do this style of footy because it helps them get out of trouble, give to a free man, then run on and go forward. Nothing that team does is pointless at the moment and the 5-0 record proves that.
As for Judd, at his best he's as good as what Ablett is ATM. But ATM Judd is not at his best.
They're clearly the two best midfielders in the comp, but Ablett gets the help that Judd doesn't get which does make it easier for him, giving him the chance to play at his best.
So it's not that Judd's injured or he's past it, it's that he doesn't have the chance to play at his best like he did at West Coast.
PS OP, there's a difference between 'then' and 'than'.
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Brisbane's Selwood went to his brother and not to Ablett.
He's only gotten the No.1 tag 1 week out of 5, and even that was Robert Shirley at the crossroads of his career.
if you only compare a players performances over a specific period of time (i.e. judd's wc years) then you might as well say kouta > hird......
prolonged performance and consistency is a major factor in these things, and ablett is on top of it as he is playing better at his prime with future years to come
judd played a few good seasons, but it has stopped..... current indicators will suggest ablett will be better for longer
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Sorry, i dont agree with this.
Judd made an impact in his debut game, and went on to establish himself as the AFL's #1 player. Playing against the likes of Voss, Hird, Goodes & Buckley.
To this day, he's still regarded as one of the best in the league.
Ablett maybe in his prime at the moment, but how long will that last? Who says it will continue for years to come?
Judd was only affected by OP and a team change.
Throw Ablett in Melbourne, or Fremantle, and see how hard he'll find it to go back to his best.
Judds best football is behind him, abletts is in front of him, and is now
Judds best was equal to abletts best, but as I said that is in the past
Currently ablett is so far ahead of all other players in the league including Judd that it is not even funny.
Judds best was equal to abletts best, but as I said that is in the past
Currently ablett is so far ahead of all other players in the league including Judd that it is not even funny.
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Superbly put ... Which opposition fan doesn't sh*t themselves when Gazza's got it on the run (about to kick it) within 55 of goal??? Basically, you can put down your glasses, as they say ... wherever he is, be it on the boundary or around the arc straight in front. The man is a freak.
Juddy, as much as I love the player, is far more prone to spray it.
This, is where the difference between the two fundamentally lies.
And as for the OP ... "damaging possessions" ???? ... have we just made up a new stat in footy? By encompassing about four different stats and chucking them into one to suit your argument?
Carlton fans, in all honesty, I wasn't sold on the 'Gazza is better than Juddy' theory for a while.
But now, he's gone past him. And, scarily, his foot is still on the accelerator.
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He doesn't get tagged as hard anymore, because he blew away taggers for 2 years. Coaches realise it's pretty pointless now.
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I disagree because I believe Ablett at his best is the better and more destructive than Judd at his best. Capiche?
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Ablett battled OP early in his career.
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Would you be saying this if Ablett were playing for Hawthorn?
What about during his career? Or after winning a brownlow?
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What im trying to get at, is Ablett, although being a superstar, is not the god everyone thinks. There are people saying that stats are useless, but when ablett gets 46 disposals everyone goes insane. When Greg Williams had 53 touches and kicked 6 goals do you think the media pumped him up as much as they have to ablett? The football public are lead to believe who the best player is, with so much media coverage, it is shoved in their faces.
Dont go thinking that garry is the saviour, cause really, he is as good as the next best player in the league, Judd.
And im not saying this cause im a carlton fan, it just happens to be that the "2nd" best player in the comp is playing for my side.
And for that arguement that Judd isnt in a good side, the carlton side is nothing compared to geelongs. Yes carlton might have some very good up and coming midfielders, but it is alot more then just a midfield that gives you a smooth ride. With the sensational geelong backline he is able to take a gamble, as he knows that the backline will most of the time win the ball in a 1 on 1 situation. It is a complete side, where it makes it alot easier for ablett to do as he wants. We have seen this with bartel now, why isnt he having the same affect on games as he did, cause he is playing that bullocking role and that less creative midfielder role to give ablett his freedom.
Dont go thinking that garry is the saviour, cause really, he is as good as the next best player in the league, Judd.
And im not saying this cause im a carlton fan, it just happens to be that the "2nd" best player in the comp is playing for my side.
And for that arguement that Judd isnt in a good side, the carlton side is nothing compared to geelongs. Yes carlton might have some very good up and coming midfielders, but it is alot more then just a midfield that gives you a smooth ride. With the sensational geelong backline he is able to take a gamble, as he knows that the backline will most of the time win the ball in a 1 on 1 situation. It is a complete side, where it makes it alot easier for ablett to do as he wants. We have seen this with bartel now, why isnt he having the same affect on games as he did, cause he is playing that bullocking role and that less creative midfielder role to give ablett his freedom.
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