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CowboyFromHell said:
Oh well.

No idea.
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What will the compensation for losing Scully be? This is where I am likely to be sympathetic. Port and the Crows got screwed with Krakouer and Bock, can imagine Dees are going to get bent over too.
 

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Waspy79 said:
What will the compensation for losing Scully be? This is where I am likely to be sympathetic. Port and the Crows got screwed with Krakouer and Bock, can imagine Dees are going to get bent over too.
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I think it will be a first round pick but not until the mid teens and that's at best. I'm over it all though, I just want him to announce it one way or the other and get it over and done with. It will at least put us all out of our misery.

If we were getting Jack Viney at the end of this year through F/S with that pick then we would be doing much better but we have to wait an extra year for Jack to come through. We'll get what we are given and what can we do about it? Nothing. We just need to move on.

But I don't want any sympathy from anyone. People in this thread saying they "don't have my sympathy" or "I don't feel sorry for them" are just wasting their time. We don't want it anyway.
 
CowboyFromHell said:
I think it will be a first round pick but not until the mid teens and that's at best. I'm over it all though, I just want him to announce it one way or the other and get it over and done with. It will at least put us all out of our misery.

If we were getting Jack Viney at the end of this year through F/S with that pick then we would be doing much better but we have to wait an extra year for Jack to come through. We'll get what we are given and what can we do about it? Nothing. We just need to move on.

But I don't want any sympathy from anyone. People in this thread saying they "don't have my sympathy" or "I don't feel sorry for them" are just wasting their time. We don't want it anyway.
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An end of first round pick would be grossly inadequate. Surely it would be at least the equivalent pick given up to secure Scully? (if the pick is held over until the GCS and GWS dont get first dibs on all the draft talent that is)
 
Waspy79 said:
An end of first round pick would be grossly inadequate. Surely it would be at least the equivalent pick given up to secure Scully? (if the pick is held over until the GCS and GWS dont get first dibs on all the draft talent that is)
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It SHOULD be but I have a feeling it isn't. Scully has shown time and time again that he has all the talents to be a superstar of this game and that an equivalent pick would be the correct compensation, but sadly, the AFL don't see it that way. They want to build GWS up as another powerhouse like the GCS and that's the way it is. I could belly ache about it until the cows come home but what can I do?

He hasn't gone yet though. ;)
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
I dont know the formula. But didnt they change the formula for Geelong anyway?
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Yes they did, and given Scully seems to be getting almost as much media interest as Gazza (and Geelong's compensation) did, I reckon the AFL will intervene again. Gotta love the Vic media looking after the interests of their own. I'd expect two first round draft picks to be the compo if Scully leaves.
 
TheBrownDog said:
A very fair point, but kinda makes it hard to feel sorry for you if Scully walks, no?
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how

Karma would mean they lost Trengrove - Scully was going to melbourne regardless of the extra win or not

and I love the morons that think a side that was cleary the worst of the competion and bottom on the ladder one year could 'tank' its a myth

And how were we livid about rischi and brennen leaving and then bagging other supporters who are now - hypocrites much?

Of course AD doesnt care as long as GWS are successful...
 

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roostersgal4eva said:
how

Karma would mean they lost Trengrove - Scully was going to melbourne regardless of the extra win or not

and I love the morons that think a side that was cleary the worst of the competion and bottom on the ladder one year could 'tank'

Its a myth
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Exactly. A myth beat up by the media and run with by the clowns that frequent this board. But that's BF as we know it.
 
CowboyFromHell said:
It SHOULD be but I have a feeling it isn't. Scully has shown time and time again that he has all the talents to be a superstar of this game and that an equivalent pick would be the correct compensation, but sadly, the AFL don't see it that way. They want to build GWS up as another powerhouse like the GCS and that's the way it is. I could belly ache about it until the cows come home but what can I do?

He hasn't gone yet though. ;)
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No he hasn't enjoy the now....He is however managed by the guy who pioneered the move north for more money...;)
 
CowboyFromHell said:
Exactly. A myth beat up by the media and run with by the clowns that frequent this board. But that's BF as we know it.
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I've seen plenty of Melbourne supporters on here who are convinced that the club deliberately lost games.

Brock McLean is also convinced.
 
roostersgal4eva said:
And how were we livid about rischi and brennen leaving and then bagging other supporters who are now - hypocrites much?
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I'm not bagging other supporters. Not like you to go off half-cocked.
 
TheBrownDog said:
I've seen plenty of Melbourne supporters on here who are convinced that the club deliberately lost games.

Brock McLean is also convinced.
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So they work at the club and know about that do they? I thought you'd know better than that.

Brock McLean left because, as it's seen this year, he wasn't in our plans going forward and he knew it. Just look at him now - we saw this a few years ago and told him he wouldn't be a walk up start, so he left. I'm quite happy with that.

Seems as though the tanking notion is nothing more than assumption on your part.
 
Waspy79 said:
Taken with a far higher draft selection and is several years younger than Ablett.
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Yep that should boost his value up...The kid will be good... but Ablett achieved the following...

Ablett has been recognised as one of the AFL's elite midfielders, being awarded many of the league's highest individual honors, including the prestigious Brownlow Medal, the Leigh Matthews Trophy as the AFL Players Association's Most Valuable Player a record three times, and been selected to four All-Australian sides, once as vice-captain. He is a dual premiership player. He has won three AFL Coaches Association 'Champion Player of the Year' awards, and a several media awards including the Australian Football Media Association Player of the Year award. At a representative level, he was selected to captain Victoria in the AFL Hall of Fame Tribute Match
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LINK.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_Hall_of_Fame_Tribute_Match
 
I reckon Melbourne should get pick number one, as well as a second round pick.

Shouldn't get the same as what Geelong got for Ablett, but should get what they paid for him, plus some.
 
CowboyFromHell said:
Brock McLean left because, as it's seen this year, he wasn't in our plans going forward and he knew it. Just look at him now - we saw this a few years ago and told him he wouldn't be a walk up start, so he left. I'm quite happy with that.
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I am quite confused why you are giving a synopsis of Brock McLean's career post-Melbourne. How is this relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is that in September 2009 in an interview with SEN he said that Melbourne tanking wasn't just a rumour, it was "reality".

You said you want the insight of people who were involved in the club, well Brock McLean was there.
 
TheBrownDog said:
I am quite confused why you are giving a synopsis of Brock McLean's career post-Melbourne. How is this relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is that in September 2009 in an interview with SEN he said that Melbourne tanking wasn't just a rumour, it was "reality".

You said you want the insight of people who were involved in the club, well Brock McLean was there.
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Yep, coming from a bitter player who knew his time at the club was up. Of course he was going to say that. That is HIS belief, not the clubs. One player from 42.

It's relevant, chief, because he left not because of tanking, which is what you were saying, but because he was already past his prime and we were shipping him off to Carlton who, for some reason, couldn't see the writing on the wall.
 
I don't have any sympathy for Melbourne at all. They tanked for draft picks only two years after making the finals. Essendon have been down the bottom for seven years now and have never stooped so low.
 

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