Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Skip to 2024: Simpson coaching tenure officially ends

[RookiePick]

I think there is a lot of water to go under the bridge yet this year. Simpson could do a lot for his credibility if he would just stamp Gaff and Sheed's papers in the back half of the year IMO. It's telling that we have looked our flattest with both of these players on the field. Loss of pace, loss of enthusiasm, loss of work-rate.

I think the introduction of Flynn, whilst beneficial in the longer term, has been disruptive to our midfield set-up. That bedding in some more will restore a bit of consistency in the midfield output.

How our upside and return of players like Allen balances against the younger players flagging over the long season will be interesting to see also. Hopefully we are getting more depth, of appropriate standard, so we can give a few more hungry players from the WAFL a crack when their team-mates are getting sore.

 

[flyinghi64]

On the back of the past few years when we were riddled with injury and half fit players I would like to see how he goes with at least a good chunk of our starting 22 to choose from.
Our 3 wins and competitive Sydney and Essendon games were on the back of having this, only really Oallen and Flynn really out injured.
The past few weeks have had Waterman, Kelly, Hunt and Reid added to that mix. This is all not including the likes of Hewett, Long, Brockman, Culley (only 1 game back) etc

Before the season started most were saying we would struggle to even win a game, on here most were happy to win 3-5 games and improve percentage to 70-75%.
To the bye we have 3 wins and are 72.6%.
After the bye we potentially have our best 22 available within a week or two.

I may be alone in this but I would prefer to give the coach at least a stretch of at least 8-10 games with our best players to choose from and see what he can do.

We finish 5 wins -70% up and down in games with a few blow outs then ok sink the boots in.
We finish 8+ wins +80% and are competitive in the losses showing some good signs and form then I say let him go again.

 

[RookiePick]

I just can't see us winning 5 more games this season.

I think we win 2-3 more but continue to minimise the blow-outs and show we are more competitive. Showing some signs with our selections and match day approach that the "new" system is being worked on is also a must.

 

[ziad]

I just can't see us winning 5 more games this season.

I think we win 2-3 more but continue to minimise the blow-outs and show we are more competitive. Showing some signs with our selections and match day approach that the "new" system is being worked on is also a must.

I thought 5-6 wins would be an excellent outcome for 2024. That was with Allen playing a full season and less injuries to Kelly, Yoe and Hunt. We are going all right if not frustrating at times.

 

[sharps24]

Agree with nearly all of it, except doing it mid year. I thought it should've been done end of last year but can understand why they didn't. 3 weeks ago it looked the correct call on the club's part

There's no point in not letting him coach out the year now though and hopefully have an amicable parting of ways at the end of this year

We've just lost to Adelaide, St Kilda and North so no matter what happens for the rest of the year we can be pretty confident there won't be any more embarrassing losses to clubs we're fighting against for last place. The point of sacking him now would be that everyone understands we've sunken to lows in the past month that [presumably] are non negotiable. If you let him coach out the year, he's liable to pull a Mick Malthouse in 2011 level **** you and say Don sack me now you Eddie McGuire looking bastard. Ie. what do we do if he gets all the pieces falling into place and goes on a mini rampage in the back half of the year. Sacking him when the club looks to have finally turned the corner, after sticking by him through all the filth, is going to look worse than not sacking him at the end of 2023.

If the club doesn't have the balls to sack him mid-season, then I think a strong post bye performance from the team entitles Simmo to see out his contract frankly.

I'm not too sure the rules on this either but if we sack him at the end of the year he's for sure going to take next year off. If we sack him mid year he gets to have a holiday and that increases the odds he recharges his batteries and finds himself a job for next year. Not sure how exactly the books are cooked either at home or at AFL hq but I wonder if there is any difference to be had there on pay out or soft cap. Depends on his contract I guess. In any case he no doubt wants to see out the season but the kind thing is probably doing it now and giving him that time away from the game before the coach and assistant merry go round starts up in 3 months. And if we are going that way at year end a circuit breaker now for the players, and a chance to get a look at Schofields wares is also a good thing. It is also a ready made excuse to not play Gaff or Sheed again and to say Darling and Cripps they can sit out a couple of away games in order to freshen themselves up while giving us a better look at some of our kids.

 

[RanaNaved]

I really, really don't want him coaching in 2025. He's doing more harm than good sticking around

 

[Smotie2]

I thought 5-6 wins would be an excellent outcome for 2024. That was with Allen playing a full season and less injuries to Kelly, Yoe and Hunt. We are going all right if not frustrating at times.

Yeah we are going great guns...at least we've beten 2 teams above us on the ladder which is more than we can say for Sydney hey.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Coaches can step aside mid season and things can turn out OK, let’s not pretend that if Simpson moves on the sky will fall in

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Don’t underestimate the absence of Hunt either.

With a relatively slow midfield we’ve missed his pace especially when Gaff was his direct replacement

Do you think Simpson will drop Gaff for Hunt?

 

[Father Jack]

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Team bad so sack coach. Forget about any extenuating circumstances, just sack coach.

 

[VicBased]

Do you think Simpson will drop Gaff for Hunt?

Fcuk, I hope so.

 

[donpyke92]

Unless Sheed plays an absolute blinder v Ess, I really hope he gets dropped before Culley when Reid & Kelly come back.
Not seeing any upside to Dom as it is.
Would like Culley to get a good run at it to see where he is at.
Agree with others that he might go well playing the 'semi-tag' Sheed has seemingly been doing for 1-2qtrs a game.
Culley is better overhead & seems hungry. Easy decision IMHO.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Coaches can step aside mid season and things can turn out OK, let’s not pretend that if Simpson moves on the sky will fall inView attachment 2017983

Yes, coaches stepping aside mid season can sometimes result in positive change. Or negative change. Or even no change, if other underlying issues aren’t addressed.

What’s your point exactly?

 

[Astro7]

The elephant in the room = who is this new coach we're getting when it happens?

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Coaches can step aside mid season and things can turn out OK, let’s not pretend that if Simpson moves on the sky will fall in

Yes, coaches stepping aside mid season can sometimes result in positive change. Or negative change. Or even no change, if other underlying issues aren’t addressed.

What’s your point exactly?

Was it a poor business decision by Collingwood to let Buckley go?

 

[Barrybran]

Well played whoever you are

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Coaches can step aside mid season and things can turn out OK, let’s not pretend that if Simpson moves on the sky will fall in


Was it a poor business decision by Collingwood to let Buckley go?

In June 2021, when his contract was expiring in October 2021? No, it wasn't.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Team bad so sack coach. Forget about any extenuating circumstances, just sack coach.

Wat.


Just how long is iT'S nOt LiKe He'S tHe OnE oN fIeLd excuses going to be rolled out for him? Been legit hearing them since 2020.

First it's covid, even though every other club dealt with that as well.
Then it's hubs.
Then it's injuries to Yeo, Kelly, Shuey, Nicnat and THAT'S the reason we've underacheived.
Then it's injuries again.
Then the game plan can't work because it only works with key personnel.
Then it's the stand rule, that's messed everything up and our kick mark game plan doesn't work anymore.
Now the new game plan won't work because we're rebuilding and have a young list that can't be motivated.
Oh wait, the injuries are back again, 4 years later.


Coaches deal with injuries to personnel and blooding youth all the time, it's stock standard adversity in an AFL season. No coach has ever survived the absolute train wreck Simpson has led us through for the past few years. Record after record after record, shitting on 30+ years of club hisotry. If he can't get the players up and about (such is his job) he's out the door, simple as that. You don't just keep looking for any reason you can to back him in again.

Last year he dodged the final bullet courtesy of 2 years remaining on his contract, this year he can't hide behind that anymore, and we're still sitting with 3 wins and 10 losses.

At what point do the excuses run out for him? When his contract ends? So end of 2025?

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Sorry Dark Sharks, you forgot to mention all the assistant coaches that got moved on cos they were no good and the fitness coaches that weren’t doing their jobs properly.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Reckon he goes at the end of the year.

Don't want a midseason sacking.

 

[Cuzz09]

Well played whoever you are

that's depressing reading

But hey, small improvements

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[Wellillbe]

What do you reckon the Eagles would do with Simpson, if Harley went to them and said he needs to go ?

Presser an hour later and thanks for ya services Mr Simpson

Or

Pull ya head in Young fella

 

[Barrybran]

What do you reckon the Eagles would do with Simpson, if Harley went to them and said he needs to go ?

Presser an hour later and thanks for ya services Mr Simpson

Or

Pull ya head in Young fella

Probably option number 3 - hear what he has to say and consider his opinion

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Team bad so sack coach. Forget about any extenuating circumstances, just sack coach.

Maybe Simmo needs some time to settle into his role as head coach??

 

[ziad]

Yeah we are going great guns...at least we've beten 2 teams above us on the ladder which is more than we can say for Sydney hey.

all right isn't near great guns. but this is fantasy BF