Simmo created the mess, why would you want him to stay? He is a huge part of the no cattle problem.
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Simmo created the mess, why would you want him to stay? He is a huge part of the no cattle problem.
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But it's just not realistic to keep him on, is it?
Personally, I'm fine with sitting back and watching him win the number 1 draft pick. But it's simply untenable. And no, I don't think a new coach will be able to turn the tide for 3 seasons either.
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They're not going to pick him, Mitch.
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It’s hard to argue that, but is the end game get better than a near once a century calibre bad output, or is the end game which coach takes us to our next flag?
You have to start by being competitive but head coach isn’t exactly a stop gap hiring situation.
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I have more sympathy for Amber Terd at this point.
You've had a great run, time to go and thanks for the flag.
You've had a great run, time to go and thanks for the flag.
We've got about 8 first starters out with injury.
I guess that's Simmo's fault as well.
wc_eagles_since86
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Even when we had the 2018 reigning premiers in 2019, we were still underperforming and things were going downhill albeit the signs were subtle.
2020
2021
and now this campaigner sandwich 2022 team.
It's not just this season.
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One more 100pt thrashing and ill float a thread on the main board asking if West Coast should get a priority pick.
Tell me who can or want to fill the role? The money it will cost us for Simmo's payout then employ another Coach who can do nothing with our list and then we can spend another 2 years whinging about a different Coach?
Great merry go round we will be on.
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How do you explain the skin folds over the last few seasons? The unwillingness to win the contested ball?
We're just not good enough to win the contested ball.
Our backline is deplorable.
Our forward line is missing OA, Rioli and Ryan.
We're a poor side.
He’s gotta go now. Young inexperienced teams even focus, even if only for a quarter on ferocious tackling or sticking to some sort of plan. We not only can’t do any of that, but I don’t even get a sense of a change or focus from week to week.
I could take 100+ point losses if we were trying things, throwing young guys into the middle or swinging positional changes to at least use this period as some trialing for next year.
But week after week it’s the same tired lineup that just continues to fail.
What nearly decade long coach has led a rebuild and come out successful on the other side?
If North’s Noble is under this much scrutiny during year 2-3 of a rebuild as a new coach and a young squad. It’s only gonna just as bad in 1-2 years for Simmo if they keep him on.
We’ve been slow on all fronts to face our issues, we’re just letting another one happen right in front of our eyes and the front office won’t lift a finger.
I could take 100+ point losses if we were trying things, throwing young guys into the middle or swinging positional changes to at least use this period as some trialing for next year.
But week after week it’s the same tired lineup that just continues to fail.
What nearly decade long coach has led a rebuild and come out successful on the other side?
If North’s Noble is under this much scrutiny during year 2-3 of a rebuild as a new coach and a young squad. It’s only gonna just as bad in 1-2 years for Simmo if they keep him on.
We’ve been slow on all fronts to face our issues, we’re just letting another one happen right in front of our eyes and the front office won’t lift a finger.
BullS#*t, the club created this mess. Simmo is the whipping boy for a much larger problem.
But that's O.K we can all whinge about another coach for three years.
Two things happen when you’re a coach, you get the credit when you succeed and when you don’t perform you take the responsibility.
Clubs get injuries, we still have more better credentialed players playing than north and they don’t get belted every week.
I admire your optimism but in my opinion these players are not giving their all for the coach. Huge red flag that is and the results show it.
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Coach of the biggest football club in the country?
I'd say there is a big line. What are you smoking?
Simmo has clearly lost the senior players. A new coach would free them up mentally. It's not that a new coach can't get results, but they can build something.
We may or may not pick the right coach. But we do know we have the wrong coach for us right now.
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To be fair, a lot of people don't like the organisation above / around Simmo either. Don't think you'll find much argument there.
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I believe I’m one of them shameful fanboys Gambler mentions because I don’t track down Simmo’s home address if we lose, but the fact we’re so so so so bad makes me think there has to be more going on here.
People will call it excuses and to a degree it is, but think of the absolute dross football teams we’ve seen in footy (even this century). The Carlton and Melbourne and expansion side and North Melbourne calibre dregs. The fact that even they’ve not hit these lows makes me think that we’re a) very very bad, naturally, which we all expected to varying degrees coming into this season. I don’t think anyone expected this bad nor should they have.
But then also b) that badness (?) has to have been accelerated by something.
Covid is a non issue for us now in terms of availability, they got through that, and the injury situation isn’t ideal but it’s hardly crippling like it looked for so long. But there has to be something to how much the offseason was interrupted and how stunted the prep has been. Not being able to get a 22 together for training can’t be a long term problem that we will face year on year.
No doubt they’re a spineless team that lets opposition get on a roll. No doubt we’ve seen good teams get too old too soft and fall down quickly before. But statistically it is just so improbable that a team with still an ultimately decent enough amount of AFL talent on it becomes quite literally the worst team of the century. It defies belief, no matter how shit Simmo is or isn’t, that a team can fall this far this quickly without something else going on. Sack Simmo, keep Simmo, do what you like. Would hardly be unfair if the axe swung now, at a certain point you just can’t ignore the wave after wave of results even if there’s the odd mitigating factor. At the end of the day this many in a row leads to a change of leadership more often than not.
I guess what I’m saying is no doubt we’ve got a long climb back but I’m hoping that whatever weird factors might have accelerated all this can’t be persistent and we’re only a very very bad team not a historically generationally once in a lifetime bad team.
Which means in essence we’re already ahead of where we think we are in the rebuild. Happy days.
People will call it excuses and to a degree it is, but think of the absolute dross football teams we’ve seen in footy (even this century). The Carlton and Melbourne and expansion side and North Melbourne calibre dregs. The fact that even they’ve not hit these lows makes me think that we’re a) very very bad, naturally, which we all expected to varying degrees coming into this season. I don’t think anyone expected this bad nor should they have.
But then also b) that badness (?) has to have been accelerated by something.
Covid is a non issue for us now in terms of availability, they got through that, and the injury situation isn’t ideal but it’s hardly crippling like it looked for so long. But there has to be something to how much the offseason was interrupted and how stunted the prep has been. Not being able to get a 22 together for training can’t be a long term problem that we will face year on year.
No doubt they’re a spineless team that lets opposition get on a roll. No doubt we’ve seen good teams get too old too soft and fall down quickly before. But statistically it is just so improbable that a team with still an ultimately decent enough amount of AFL talent on it becomes quite literally the worst team of the century. It defies belief, no matter how shit Simmo is or isn’t, that a team can fall this far this quickly without something else going on. Sack Simmo, keep Simmo, do what you like. Would hardly be unfair if the axe swung now, at a certain point you just can’t ignore the wave after wave of results even if there’s the odd mitigating factor. At the end of the day this many in a row leads to a change of leadership more often than not.
I guess what I’m saying is no doubt we’ve got a long climb back but I’m hoping that whatever weird factors might have accelerated all this can’t be persistent and we’re only a very very bad team not a historically generationally once in a lifetime bad team.
Which means in essence we’re already ahead of where we think we are in the rebuild. Happy days.
Yep.....you are right ...what was i thinking.
Why don't you apply for the job seeing you have all the answers?
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Not even Miguel is going to come and save you after this weeks performance. Maybe lay low til after the draft on Wednesday
Do you have any idea how football clubs work? No football decision is made in a football club without the coach signing off on it. The head coach is the king of the club, he is the alpha male at a footy club.
You are correct a new coach will not provide any success but he will get on with the changes . He will put in new non negotiables.
While Simmo stays nothing will change at all.
How can you not see this.
Jenny, you really need to try and make the trolling less obvious. What alias are you? One must wonder
How can you not see that we don't have the players?
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