Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[footy_basis]

Is it really defeatism? Maybe it's realism? But to get another coach in who 'couldn't do any worse' sounds defeatist to me, or pointless. Does the new coach carry on with transitioning the team along with Simmo's new game plan, or does he try to install a new one? That would seem like a backward and confusing move to me.
Shuey has stated the team totally backs Simmo in and he's the man to see it through..yes, this could be club propaganda, and yes other teams have said similar and then had a new coach..but changing horses midstream doesn't seem prudent to me. Arguably Tigers are at a comfortable stage to lose/change coaches, nothing like our situation. But I can't argue with 'he owns much of this s**t', relating to adapting, drafting, tactics, but not injuries. Given the dire and unique situation we're in, we'd have to make sure the next coach is 'red hot' and comes with all the credentials and laurels we need to to rise up again? (and like most things footy, that doesn't come with a guarantee of course)

This is the elite competition. There are only ever 18 senior head coach jobs. There will always be a fresh, energetic, up and comer willing to take the challenge on. Simpson indeed himself took on the role at a very similar stage when worsfold was still coach.

The excuses and "nothing to see here" coming from Simpson and the entire club is concerning. Simpson has lost the energy and knows he's another 100 pt loss away from a mid-week sacking.

This excuse of "collision injuries are unavoidable and bad luck" is such nonsense also. West coast are probably neglecting simple injury prevention strength and conditioning and focussing on something else - likely fitness.

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[EagleEgo]

Pretty doubtful.

There’s a big gap between saying “we think we can make finals” and putting it in employee’s performance agreements as a requirement.

We will assume it is in the 2023 Business Plan too. (I have not seen the doc. It is just a guess)

 

[VicBased]

This is the elite competition. There are only ever 18 senior head coach jobs. There will always be a fresh, energetic, up and comer willing to take the challenge on. Simpson indeed himself took on the role at a very similar stage when worsfold was still coach.

The excuses and "nothing to see here" coming from Simpson and the entire club is concerning. Simpson has lost the energy and knows he's another 100 pt loss away from a mid-week sacking.

This excuse of "collision injuries are unavoidable and bad luck" is such nonsense also. West coast are probably neglecting simple injury prevention strength and conditioning and focussing on something else - likely fitness.

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Beg to differ.
Simmo has been very up front.
Maybe you are not listening or just like to stir the pot, anyway put a sock in it.

 

[ziad]

This is the elite competition. There are only ever 18 senior head coach jobs. There will always be a fresh, energetic, up and comer willing to take the challenge on. Simpson indeed himself took on the role at a very similar stage when worsfold was still coach.

The excuses and "nothing to see here" coming from Simpson and the entire club is concerning. Simpson has lost the energy and knows he's another 100 pt loss away from a mid-week sacking.

This excuse of "collision injuries are unavoidable and bad luck" is such nonsense also. West coast are probably neglecting simple injury prevention strength and conditioning and focussing on something else - likely fitness.

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So much wong here but so little time.

1. AFL is a domestic national comp with well over 1000 athletes (male) that isnt elite in any sence.
2. Can you read a persons mind- I dont think so. The club and simmo have been open and clear- perhaps it doesnt suit your prejudices.
3. Collision injuries in a collision sport - give us a break.

perhaps pun intended

 

[footy_basis]

So much wong here but so little time.

1. AFL is a domestic national comp with well over 1000 athletes (male) that isnt elite in any sence.
2. Can you read a persons mind- I dont think so. The club and simmo have been open and clear- perhaps it doesnt suit your prejudices.
3. Collision injuries in a collision sport - give us a break.

perhaps pun intended

Simpson came out only a week ago saying that they wanted to respect cripps and co, and allow them the opportunity to return for the last handful of games, rather than take picks in the mid week draft. I'm not advocating for recruiting last years' rejects, although this isn't the mindset of a rebuilding coach. He's clearly got friendships that he can't look past. Watch videos of him 9 years ago and you can see he no longer possesses the energy needed. If he can regain this, fantastic but he needs a mindset change quickly.

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[VicBased]

Simpson came out only a week ago saying that they wanted to respect cripps and co, and allow them the opportunity to return for the last handful of games, rather than take picks in the mid week draft. I'm not advocating for recruiting last years' rejects, although this isn't the mindset of a rebuilding coach. He's clearly got friendships that he can't look past. Watch videos of him 9 years ago and you can see he no longer possesses the energy needed. If he can regain this, fantastic but he needs a mindset change quickly.

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It is important to respect players that have played well and done things like, you know,
WON US A GF.
How would you feel if you gave everything to your job and then they kicked you to the kerb.

 

[Farang83150]

This is the elite competition. There are only ever 18 senior head coach jobs. There will always be a fresh, energetic, up and comer willing to take the challenge on. Simpson indeed himself took on the role at a very similar stage when worsfold was still coach.

The excuses and "nothing to see here" coming from Simpson and the entire club is concerning. Simpson has lost the energy and knows he's another 100 pt loss away from a mid-week sacking.

This excuse of "collision injuries are unavoidable and bad luck" is such nonsense also. West coast are probably neglecting simple injury prevention strength and conditioning and focussing on something else - likely fitness.

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I knew Barrett couldn't resist posting in this thread.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

[*]AFL is a domestic national comp with well over 1000 athletes (male) that isnt elite in any sence.

It’s actually under 800.

(It’s also actually “sense”)

 

[footy_basis]

It is important to respect players that have played well and done things like, you know,
WON US A GF.
How would you feel if you gave everything to your job and then they kicked you to the kerb.

As I said, this is the elite competition and should be cut throat. West coast held onto lecras and Dean cox for far too long, and history is repeating. Once these older players are liabilities on the field or can't even get onto the field, time to enjoy retirement and let a young player take over. Take a lead from redden who retired in style, still performing week in week out. Head coach needs to make the tough calls and forget about the reunions.

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[Goroyals22]

It is important to respect players that have played well and done things like, you know,
WON US A GF.
How would you feel if you gave everything to your job and then they kicked you to the kerb.

So because they won us something 5 years ago those credits haven’t expired… least of all they aren’t any worse off they are still getting well paid from that period…

They should be ruled out for the the year but commence a pre season for the last few weeks…

 

[Dark Sharks]

EVERYONE LISTEN UP, HERE'S MY THOUGHTS




All these nuffies on FB and talkback radio crying into their trash WCE merch telling everyone to "leave Simmo alone" and "take 20 players out of any other club and see how they would go" or "Hand back your membership if you can't support the team!!" etc etc are embarassing and missing the point.


Is Simpson responsible? Absolutely. Make no mistake about it he should be taking some responsibility for his role in the role out of our failed game plan, the lack of development of our younger players, the list management for our managed veterans we've kept around too long, the lack of accountability for years for underperforming seniors who phoned it in without being dropped.... he's the head coach, it's literally part of his job.

Personally, as i've said before i feel he lost the players at the bye in 2021, and they are seriously yet to switch back on and start playing/caring for him again.


Is he SOLELY responsible? Absolutely not. No sir.

His saving grace is his contract. Make no mistake about it, there's no getting around that thing. He should really be thanking whatever genius agent of his squeezed the club for the extra year in 2025, because i feel if it was end of 2024 he'd be gone by now.


So there you go, he's ironically untouchable at the moment, so clearly we move onto other underperforming fish we CAN do something about.

Warren Koefed, Mark Finucane, Gavin Bell, Rohan O'Brien, Trevor Nisbett, Luke Webster

Luke Webster

Age

42

Ht

186cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

< and any other coach/staff member who hasn't got the protection of an extended contract to hide behind.


I want sackings, i just don't want to waste time talking about Simpson. Can't change the situation, so leave him and move on.




And bring back Tunbridge to teach the boiz how to tackle FFS.

 

[Bender_]

Hey guys, can you please stop talking about Adam Simpson in the Adam Simpson Megathread?

Cheers

 

[VicBased]

So because they won us something 5 years ago those credits haven’t expired… least of all they aren’t any worse off they are still getting well paid from that period…

They should be ruled out for the the year but commence a pre season for the last few weeks…

It is not their fault they are injured and the clubs recruiting strategies did not work out. If they could play they would.
I doubt they are bunging on injury so they can sit on the sideline.sick of you negative contributors who should just f#*k off and support soccer.

 

[Goroyals22]

Eddie says we can’t


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[bzparkes]

As I said, this is the elite competition and should be cut throat. West coast held onto lecras and Dean cox for far too long, and history is repeating. Once these older players are liabilities on the field or can't even get onto the field, time to enjoy retirement and let a young player take over. Take a lead from redden who retired in style, still performing week in week out. Head coach needs to make the tough calls and forget about the reunions.

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What the ****? LeCras played a huge part in us winning a premiership.

If you're simply here to troll then well, here's the door:

 

[Farang83150]

Hey guys, can you please stop talking about Adam Simpson in the Adam Simpson Megathread?

Cheers

Yeah, more talk about x players needed.

 

[bzparkes]

Eddie says we can’t


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Ergo = Eddie has NFI what is happening within WCE.

 

[footy_basis]

What the *? LeCras played a huge part in us winning a premiership.

If you're simply here to troll then well, here's the door:

Lecras was dreadful the last couple of years. What are you talking about?

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[VicBased]

EVERYONE LISTEN UP, HERE'S MY THOUGHTS




All these nuffies on FB and talkback radio crying into their trash WCE merch telling everyone to "leave Simmo alone" and "take 20 players out of any other club and see how they would go" or "Hand back your membership if you can't support the team!!" etc etc are embarassing and missing the point.


Is Simpson responsible? Absolutely. Make no mistake about it he should be taking some responsibility for his role in the role out of our failed game plan, the lack of development of our younger players, the list management for our managed veterans we've kept around too long, the lack of accountability for years for underperforming seniors who phoned it in without being dropped.... he's the head coach, it's literally part of his job.

Personally, as i've said before i feel he lost the players at the bye in 2021, and they are seriously yet to switch back on and start playing/caring for him again.


Is he SOLELY responsible? Absolutely not. No sir.

His saving grace is his contract. Make no mistake about it, there's no getting around that thing. He should really be thanking whatever genius agent of his squeezed the club for the extra year in 2025, because i feel if it was end of 2024 he'd be gone by now.


So there you go, he's ironically untouchable at the moment, so clearly we move onto other underperforming fish we CAN do something about.

Warren Koefed, Mark Finucane, Gavin Bell, Rohan O'Brien, Trevor Nisbett, Luke Webster < and any other coach/staff member who hasn't got the protection of an extended contract to hide behind.


I want sackings, i just don't want to waste time talking about Simpson. Can't change the situation, so leave him and move on.




And bring back Tunbridge to teach the boiz how to tackle FFS.

Been smoking something tonight DS?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

As I said, this is the elite competition and should be cut throat. West coast held onto lecras and Dean cox for far too long, and history is repeating.

LeCras played in the 2018 flag and then promptly retired.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

And bring back Tunbridge to teach the boiz how to tackle FFS.

That's literally all that Tunbridge could do. He is a example of the kind of draft picks and player development that got us into this mess.

 

[bzparkes]

Lecras was dreadful the last couple of years. What are you talking about?

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No, he wasn't.

It's clear you never watched a game of his.

 

[footy_basis]

No, he wasn't.

It's clear you never watched a game of his.

It's just not true. He was untouchable though from Simpson, given all of his credits. He was certainly playing. Although he was not performing. I appreciate that most will whitewash and forget given the premiership was won.

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[ziad]

Simpson came out only a week ago saying that they wanted to respect cripps and co, and allow them the opportunity to return for the last handful of games, rather than take picks in the mid week draft. I'm not advocating for recruiting last years' rejects, although this isn't the mindset of a rebuilding coach. He's clearly got friendships that he can't look past. Watch videos of him 9 years ago and you can see he no longer possesses the energy needed. If he can regain this, fantastic but he needs a mindset change quickly.

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well based on multiple interviews and club nouncements I dont agree

 

[Goroyals22]

It is not their fault they are injured and the clubs recruiting strategies did not work out. If they could play they would.
I doubt they are bunging on injury so they can sit on the sideline.sick of you negative contributors who should just f#*k off and support soccer.

Telling it how it is is not being negative. It’s the facts.. you can’t hold these blokes for ever in a day because they won something half a decade ago. They have been well paid in that time so the club owes them nothing.


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