Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[Byron_Clanger]

With the injury list as long as it is and the side as depleted as it is I don't really understand the crushing pressure Simmo would be having on himself. It should be freeing, if anything. You know you're going to get pantsed most weeks, so try something different, try players in roles you always thought about but held off on trying.

If Simmo wants to step away from the club at the end of the season then I can completely understand that. If he wants to do a Clarko and step away right now for a break then I wouldn't really mind cos like I said we're gonna be getting pumped every week anyway.

Getting Simmo or Nisbett out now doesn't make McGovern, Naitanui, Yeo, Shuey all available for next week.

 

[Cuzz09]

Makes Malthouses late 90s coaching drop off look remarkably good.

To be honest if we has made finals in 19, 20, 21 and 22 but knocked out in 1st/2nd week we'd be complaining about that.

It's flags or nothing in this caper.

I've always felt like anything other than a Prelim is a meh year.

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[VicBased]

Makes Malthouses late 90s coaching drop off look remarkably good.

To be honest if we has made finals in 19, 20, 21 and 22 but knocked out in 1st/2nd week we'd be complaining about that.

It's flags or nothing in this caper.

I've always felt like anything other than a Prelim is a meh year.

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And I agree with your sentiment which shows us how spoilt we as Eagles supporters are.

 

[Cuzz09]

And I agree with your sentiment which shows us how spoilt we as Eagles supporters are.

I was 100% thinking this (while bored at work) last night.

I started following the Eagles in 91 and my first 4 years as a fan was 3 GFs and 2 flags and ever since you are trying to get that feeling.

That's why (to me) the greatest challenge for WCE (and WA sides in general) is sustained success.

Not just 1 and done.

But deffo been spoilt as a fan.

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[Ishmael_]

Simpsons coaching record of 117 wins v 95 losses has him likely going into the red by the end of next year. Its an appalling record given he had ten years coaching the best forwardline WCE has ever had, a once in a generation CHB, powerhouse ruckman, AA players all over the ground and the biggest home ground advantage in AFL. That flag covers a lot of sins.

Ne never addressed our midfield failings, never addressed our issues clearing CHB and his overall legacy was to change us from a club that valued contested footy to one that doesn't know how to anymore. You can bet your arse he was in the ear of the list managers as well, overestimating the list and driving the "flag window" top up strategy over hitting the draft as early and as often as possible. Another significant departure from WCE of old. Also the offield staff, his assistants and S&C - does anyone think they are onboarded without the ok of the senior coach?

The longer he stays the harder it will be to regain the high performance culture we have lost.

Simpson was known to be - at least in the Rawlings era a large part of list managment. So I think this is fair.

Win percentage is a bit of a timing thing though. Take the last three years out and Simpson is one of the GOATs.

Unless you're Geelong which has by far the strongest home ground/state advantage and list management advantages (esp. now). Then you can install any half competent coach and sit at 60+.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Simpsons coaching record of 117 wins v 95 losses has him likely going into the red by the end of next year. Its an appalling record given he had ten years coaching the best forwardline WCE has ever had, a once in a generation CHB, powerhouse ruckman, AA players all over the ground and the biggest home ground advantage in AFL. That flag covers a lot of sins.

You could say the same of pretty much every Premiership era we've had.

For example, we had one of the greatest midfields ever, with Judd, Cousins and Kerr and Cox as a ruckman, but only managed a single premiership with that much talent. And while Malthouse managed two premierships, there's a pretty common view that we could/should have snagged more.

 

[Lia]

Scapegoat Simpson, what a pathetically run club we are. Don’t blame him now if he just leaves, he has been badly let down from multiple angles.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I don't understand the logic of media pundits like Duffield saying on the one hand we are in the midst of a full rebuild and the future/youth should be prioritised and we might not make finals for several years from here. But then they say we should give Simpson one more year after this and if we are still in the bottom third of the ladder next year then he should go. You can't ask somebody to rebuild a list but then hold them responsible when you don't make the 8.

 

[FKASC]

And I agree with your sentiment which shows us how spoilt we as Eagles supporters are.

I doubt you’d find too many supporters who are content with missing out on finals or getting knocked out in the first week of finals…

 

[footy_basis]

Im happy for Simmo to stay as coach , what we should be doing is pay out all the contracts for the players over 29 & start a fresh. Lets start getting ruthless with players after 28 no more long term contracts.

I'd be happy if nisbett and simpson stayed as long as this occurs. All 30 year olds cut immediately at seasons end. I don't care what your name is.

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[Ambrose Burnside]

I'd be happy if nisbett and simpson stayed as long as this occurs. All 30 year olds cut immediately at seasons end. I don't care what your name is.

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Sack Simmo and replace him with Logan 5 too.

 

[VicBased]

I was 100% thinking this (while bored at work) last night.

I started following the Eagles in 91 and my first 4 years as a fan was 3 GFs and 2 flags and ever since you are trying to get that feeling.

That's why (to me) the greatest challenge for WCE (and WA sides in general) is sustained success.

Not just 1 and done.

But deffo been spoilt as a fan.

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I hear you , would love a hat trick myself

 

[VicBased]

I doubt you’d find too many supporters who are content with missing out on finals or getting knocked out in the first week of finals…

St Kilda fans??????????..??????...????????
They would love to win a final.

 

[Mop]

**** me, Nesbitt is digging his long thin skeletal claws in and will burn the club to the ground before he lets them sack him

Pathetic

 

[amazingjoshy]

Win percentage is a bit of a timing thing though. Take the last three years out and Simpson is one of the GOATs.

Take out the worst 3 years of any coach and they're all great

Doesn't quite work like that

 

[Mop]

So without scrolling through the entire thread, if Simpson was to go then who are the top 5 or so frontrunners to take over?

Hardwick (although he has said he left the tigers because he is exhausted so probably not ready to go for a little while)

Dean Cox?

Clarkson? Wouldn't assume he would walk away from north given the situation.

Don Pike? Is he still coaching somewhere after his senior stint at Adelaide?

Who else is out there that would contemplate moving west?

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fyi Pyke is an assistant at Sydney I believe (as is Cox)

 

[Chris_6678]

G Simmos is going to hate the presser tommorow.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

fyi Pyke is an assistant at Sydney I believe (as is Cox)

Longmire with a similar record to Simmo so I assume similar $$$ and they have two of the most highly rated assistant coaches too.

How do they afford it?

 

[bzparkes]

G Simmos is going to hate the presser tommorow.

Just give him a 3-month break from pressers. That should help.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Development coach Jacob Brennan

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can do Simmo's presser tomorrow for him, all good.

 

[kempy]

Development coach Jacob Brennan

Jacob Brennan

Age

34

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

can do Simmo's presser tomorrow for him, all good.

Just like Roy in that Ted Lasso episode.


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[greatwhiteshark]

Scapegoat Simpson, what a pathetically run club we are. Don’t blame him now if he just leaves, he has been badly let down from multiple angles.

Surely you jest?
The coach is the King of the club, numero uno! It is why he is remunerated so much. It is his responsibility as much as any person or department in the club.
Have other departments not done well? Of course, that is clear but ultimately the senior coach is responsible for everything football.
When we won the flag we didn't praise our medical staff, our list managers, etc. We gave Adam his due credit for being the senior coach.
It has now gone shit, so he has to wear that now.

 

[Keys]

Surely you jest?
The coach is the King of the club, numero uno! It is why he is remunerated so much. It is his responsibility as much as any person or department in the club.
Have other departments not done well? Of course, that is clear but ultimately the senior coach is responsible for everything football.
When we won the flag we didn't praise our medical staff, our list managers, etc. We gave Adam his due credit for being the senior coach.
It has now gone s**t, so he has to wear that now.

No, it was all Sam Mitchell’s doing remember

 

[Forward Press]

The Venn diagram of people who think 2018 was all Sam Mitchell and assistants and the people who think Simmo is to blame for the mess of 2022 and 2023 is a perfect circle.

 

[bzparkes]

Surely you jest?
The coach is the King of the club, numero uno! It is why he is remunerated so much. It is his responsibility as much as any person or department in the club.
Have other departments not done well? Of course, that is clear but ultimately the senior coach is responsible for everything football.
When we won the flag we didn't praise our medical staff, our list managers, etc. We gave Adam his due credit for being the senior coach.
It has now gone s**t, so he has to wear that now.

You're describing Tim Gepp.