Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[Galileo9]

Tbh I'm not sure if it's our recruitment or our development

Fair point. But we still do better than most clubs. And that's the key. U can't just sack everyone just because u aren't at top. That's not how world works. We lost one game. Game plan is good. Lots of good players. Plenty to build on.

 

[omarlittle1]

Major issue for mine is our slow and inadequate ball movement out of defence. So many times we bomb to a contest, which we almost always inevitably lose, which results in a spilt ball and our lack of leg speed and spread are exploited with the ball being pumped back into the opposition's attacking 50.
Hurn is not utilising his skill set enough (long penetrating kick) Gov was right off today but he's usually super reliable.
Wellingham and Shep are both shockingly off the pace and are now liabilities transitioning out of defence.
We need to address this asap.
Then of course there is the usual lack of composure with inside 50's. Too many players just blazing away and bombing it in. It was happening all last year too, it's so frustrating. The majoirty of our players lack composure and finesse. Not sure how to fix that.

 

[Godfather32]

Fair point. But we still do better than most clubs. And that's the key. U can't just sack everyone just because u aren't at top. That's not how world works. We lost one game. Game plan is good. Lots of good players. Plenty to build on.

Could you please explain what you've based this on?

 

[SpaceClef]

There's a big black knee that's the difference between us being a contender and not. If he comes back in decent shape in 2018 we can contend

Nah, he'll be playing well before then - plus it was his hamstring, not his knee.

 

[Moose1414]

I'm watching a game we lose by 11 points on a ground we traditionally struggle on after we shot ourselves in the foot in the first half with inaccurate goal kicking and poor F50 entries

Yes we played badly but reading this and listening to the commentary you'd think we lost by 10 goals

The blustery conditions didn't help us because it neutralised our aerial advantage somewhat whilst simultaneously exposing our lack of pace at ground level

Arguably we were one tall too many down back and may have been better served with butler back there instead of Barrass. (Watson would have been handy)

We also ran into one of the best players in the comp at the top of his game

Far from our best today but don't see the need to burn everything down

Gov forward the second it started raining would of given us the 4 points. Playing with one tall down back while it was dry would of been a stretch for the other 3 quarters. Riewoldt managed only 1 goal today and it came courtesy of the one time he found himself one on one against Wellingham directly in front. [aside, jesus christ is that bloke a shit kick at goal]

There wasn't much wrong with the team we took over for mine, I'll agree with the OP Simpson has issues. One of them is he just really struggles to adapt on match day. Jack Darling is out of form and clearly got injured early. Kennedy was battling Rance and the Tigers were playing a small forward line. Exactly how perfect does the situation have to be before attempting to swing Gov forward? He' s the best hands in the business whether its wet or dry, he clunks everything and did today in that last qtr. Simpson spent most of preseason talking up his swing man credentials but when the game was there to be won like a dear in the headlights he just couldn't make the move despite that last qtr being played under radically different conditions that were heavily favouring Richmond.

Its just not in him to try new things. I think 2015 will go down as his only year in his senior coaching career that he exceeded expectations and that was as a consequence of injuries forcing innovation, innovations I think everyone suspects correctly came from the former eagles great currently coaching at Adelaide. For him to be a Premiership coach at West Coast he's got to overcome significant challenges and at no point in the last 4 years has he looked anywhere close to making progress on our most significant issues. Round 3 is too early to right off a season, but year 4 isn't too early to be thinking very seriously about how long we persist with a coach that doesn't deliver the ultimate success. This club hasn't had a lot of coaches making it to 5 years without producing the silverware.

Its round 3. Like every year we can expect to make finals. We'll be in the mix on paper to go all the way. And its always possible some determination catches fire in the player group and deliver a Premiership, that kind of hunger for success is not evident though. We're a low energy side being led by a low energy coach and it doesn't matter who were playing and whether we are winning or losing its just looks like things aren't really gelling out there the way they should be and its extremely disappointing to see us come back from another preseason and just continue to play the way we've played from the 2015 GF on. We're just treading water as a football club, we need to be going somewhere and already it just doesn't feel like thats happening.

I'm hoping Mitchell has some idea's about how to go about fixing this though, he's the wildcard in this situation really. As a player, how much potential is there for him to be influential as a coach, purely in the realm of drive and attitude and hunger for success. After this flat start to the season the path to the 2017 GF is for my money with Mitchell being the person that responds to the decade long open challenge of transforming the mentality of this playing group and turning them into warriors.

 

[Biggie]

Great post

 

[Boohemian]

Did I say anything about rebuilding?

The substance of his post is that you're an incredibly negative/pessimistic poster. Whether you you literally typed anything about rebuilding is irrelevant.

 

[eagles rule]

Sydney struggle typically against the pies in Sydney. Their first two games they were competitive but unlucky. Will not surprise if they beat us on Thurs.

well this is our 5 day break game so thankfully its a home game and we don't appear to have suffered any serious injuries today ....

 

[Galileo9]

Could you please explain what you've based this on?

Er we made grand final 2 years ago. Won 16 games last year. Can't do that if you have no talent or draft.

Obviously Bulldogs were best at it. I wouldn't say there are many other clubs who are clear cut better.

 

[Galileo9]

The substance of his post is that you're an incredibly negative/pessimistic poster. Whether you you literally typed anything about rebuilding is irrelevant.

He had the best likes to posts ratio so he is right. Just ask him

 

[Coasters7]

Bit of an overreaction. We played our best footy for the year in that first half (obviously apart from the goal kicking), but I can list of half a dozen things, at least, that I was stoked about from players that we see to dislike.
Masten backing back into a contest, darling committing to tackles, redden going into the pack and helping out as he was recruited to do.

If we kick straight we are up by 30 and richmond won't have a 3rd quarter like that. We are a confidence team and as soon as things don't go our way we seem to fold. Today I thought we didn't do to badly. For all their dominance in the 3rd, they didn't score to many.

The way I see it, the missed goals gave richmond the confidence for that 3rd quarter and we were no match for a running team in that last quarter weather. It's just one of those games, but I thought we did well.

We lack someone with xfactor that can turn the momentum in our favour. This game had jetta written all over it but he was non existent when the conditions suited him most. Yeo and nelson should've gone into the middle in the last quarter. We had nothing to lose and at least those two take the game on

 

[Obeanie1]

Wanted Simmo when Woosha went and was stoked when we got him.

But ever since the start of last year I haven't rated his work at all. Backing in Mackenzie from the start of last year was a mistake, going away from the defensive system that worked the year before. The whole Mitch Brown fiasco, that doesn't need any explanation. Supposedly we worked on wet weather football over the break but we overused it like mother ****ers today.

I'm standing up for Jetta too. Simpson has no idea how to use him. Doesn't throw him forward, just leaves him to jog around unsure of his own role. We have a weapon, bloody learn to utilise him.

Willie Rioli will be a huge inclusion, we need a crumbing forward.

Where's he at?

Pretty sure Jetta was moved forward when the rain came. As for the rest ofJetta"s game it was the same soft shlt we have come to expect.

Would have been nice to have our Rioli today.

Hill is too inconsistent for my liking. If we need pace then Partington should be given a chance.

Darling as our second tall forward isn't working, he needs to be released more per Weatly"s comments.

If we kicked straight all good but we didn't.

 

[CM9000]

Because of the previous 3 weeks. Not really hard to fathom.



I haven't actually said we're screwed. Do I think we're top 4? No, no I don't. We are lacking something, of what I am not sure.

I am questioning Simpson game-plan and what can he do to arrest this worrying trend of out the back goals.



Fair enough, makes no difference to me.

Fair response. In restrospect, I think it might have sounded like I'm having a bit of a go at you. Sorry if that's the case, it was never the intention.

 

[QS]

He's going to be a vital player for us.

Based on what?

 

[Biggie]

Based on what?

Surname?

Seriously we're all holding hope that he can be that ground player in the F50 we need.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Based on what?

The fact that he is the exact type of player we've been crying out for.

And hope.

 

[Benji85]

Agree with you.

I don't think anyone would have thought after Round 3 the angry mob would be chanting Sack Simo instead of Sack Dimma. Long way to go yet, the Eagles will be a force in 2017, cool your jets West Coasters.

IT'S OUT PARTY AND WE'LL MELT WHERE WE WANT TOOOO

 

[QS]

The fact that he is the exact type of player we've been crying out for.

And hope.

Cool. I hope I win lotto someday.

Point is you can't start a thread like this at the time you did proclaiming unequivocally that he will be a huge inclusion implying he will make a difference based upon sweet **** all and hope. We lost by 11, both sides were scrappy but we didn't put away our chances. Let's not start flying a kite.

 

[eaglesfan84]

Watching the freo game you can see how beneficial having some youth in your side can be, calculated changes can help transform a team. I don't think Simpson has it in him to do anything like that sadly.

 

[QS]

Watching the freo game you can see how beneficial having some youth in your side can be, calculated changes can help transform a team. I don't think Simpson has it in him to do anything like that sadly.

Problem is our youth doesn't look like banging down the door for selection, bar maybe watson... I don't know what we do with them, but they all seem to waste away in the 2's..

 

[Altum Volantes]

The Hurn/LeCras/Priddis/Kennedy generation won't win a flag - too soft in the underbelly and prone to shitting the bed.

Can lump Darling in with that group.

The hope is that Naitanui is not completely stuffed and we can build from there.

1 of Hutchings/Sheed/Redden can play each week. It should be Sheed considering the other 2 are certified average plodders.

Jetta is here for the pay cheque. He's no Eagle.

Need a few new sparks in there ASAP.

 

[Moose1414]

Don't agree entirely but on balance this is a fair point

Btw, freo lead the Bulldogs 25-0. Beveridge needs to wake up

Judging the the look on Beveridges face after the game he's a pretty woke dude, couldn't even leave the coaches box until he'd seriously digested what he just saw. He'll respond, he'll tweak, he won't be afraid to drop players who didn't perform. This guy turned a nothing team into a Premiership side in under 2 years by starting his career with the media labelling him madman for refusing to play an All Australian ruckman when they had precisely zero ruck options just because he didn't like Winsons attitude. Compare and contrast to Adam Simpson, the coach he pantsed in an elimination final to generate momentum that carried the Bulldogs all the way. [Ok perhaps thats giving Beverage too much credit, we all know Simpson pantsed himself at the selection table before that game even started]

It shouldn't escape anyones notice that Ross Lyon just beat the reigning premiers on the back of dropping 6 senior players and having the balls to use his centre half back as a pinch hitting ruckman while Sandilands sat on the pine.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Fair point. But we still do better than most clubs. And that's the key. U can't just sack everyone just because u aren't at top. That's not how world works. We lost one game. Game plan is good. Lots of good players. Plenty to build on.

Do WC?

Surely in the last half decade WC is one of the worst.

 

[Keys]

Judging the the look on Beveridges face after the game he's a pretty woke dude, couldn't even leave the coaches box until he'd seriously digested what he just saw. He'll respond, he'll tweak, he won't be afraid to drop players who didn't perform. This guy turned a noting team into a Premiership side in under 2 years by starting his career with the media labelling him madman for refusing to play an All Australian ruckman when they had precisely zero ruck options just because he didn't like Winsons attitude. Compare and contrast to Adam Simpson, the coach he pantsed in an elimination final to generate momentum that carried the Bulldogs all the way. [Ok perhaps thats giving Beverage too much credit, we all know Simpson pantsed himself at the selection table before that game even started]

It shouldn't escape anyones notice that Ross Lyon just beat the reigning premiers on the back of dropping 6 senior players and having the balls to use his centre half back as a pinch hitting ruckman while Sandilands sat on the pine.

Yeah well done to Lyon for making changes after a 15 goal thumping

Beveridge had a great finals run, well done to him

This year he's had wins over the 0-3 swans, the 1-2 pies who's win was over the winless swans and just lost to the previously winless dockers

Adelaide aside, every team has misfired to some extent this season. We need improvement but we aren't Robinson Crusoe

 

[ChampRevesby]

Yeah well done to Lyon for making changes after a 15 goal thumping

Beveridge had a great finals run, well done to him

This year he's had wins over the 0-3 swans, the 1-2 pies who's win was over the winless swans and just lost to the previously winless dockers

Adelaide aside, every team has misfired to some extent this season. We need improvement but we aren't Robinson Crusoe

And Richmond haven't even left Victoria this year, I think we did ok.