Banter Adelaide Board's Combined Politics/Covid discussion Banter Thread (WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED)

[Vader]

Not lacking for optimism are you? I'll believe it when I see it.

Yeah... call it optimism. Looking forward to seeing the likes of Angus Taylor & Stuart Robert behind bars, where they deserve to be.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I was kind of ambivalent about Dutton as leader. Could see some pros but also some cons.

But now that Mark McGowan has called him an “extremist” — get him in. Right now.

 

[Vader]

That's about as likely to happen as Kirky voting Liberal at the next election.

Call it optimism.

 

[Vader]

If I remember correctly you also predicted Trump in prison too?

It's still a work in progress.

What I don't understand is why he wasn't charged over the Michael Cohen case. Cohen went to prison, after committing "felonies for the benefit of, at the direction of, and in coordination with Individual Number 1. And for the record, Individual Number 1 is President Donald J. Trump."

I suspect the Dems may be keeping that one in the bank, in case he should ever attempt to stand for office again.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Labor still need Greens support to get anything through the Senate.

The Greens may even have the outright balance of power in the Senate. Anything which doesn't attract bipartisan support from the LNP will be unable to pass if the Greens don't vote for it.

The rest of the cross bench has effectively been neutered.

They’ll just get the Libs to support things through the senate. It’s where Albo gets his policies from anyway.

 

[Vader]

They’ll just get the Libs to support things through the senate. It’s where Albo gets his policies from anyway.

Yeah... I can't see the Libs voting for anything Climate Change or ICAC related. It's not in their DNA.

The question is whether they continue the hyper-partisan stupidity which began under Abbott, or decide to become a constructive opposition instead?

 

[MrKK]

OK... re-reading those SA Senate articles, I now have a different understanding.

When they talk about a 2nd Greens Senate seat, that's 1 from 2019 and 1 from 2022. I don't believe they're talking about the Greens winning 2 of the 6 Senate seats up for grabs last Saturday.

With that understanding, I now have NFI who will claim SA's 6th Senate seat.

6th seat impossible to call. May come down to whether Liberal and Labor voters preferenced each other ahead of ON.

See I at least respect Bernardi for standing by his principles, and think more pollies should do the same.

Either convince the voters that your view is the best one in the interests of the country and its people, or don't win the vote.

Case in point, the Greens are in their strongest position ever. Say what you like about their policies, but there is consistency there. On any issue you can correctly assume what their position will be, while the Liberals have to conduct a focus group first.

And when your core appeal is to conservative voters, not having a consistent position on anything is a recipe for disaster.

 

[BRL121]

Well its a bit like the Crows re-signing Tex for another 2 year contract. He won't be playing in our next grand final, but he'll make us more competitive and relevant at our weakest point.

The worst thing the Libs could do is appoint another nice guy like Brendan Nelson who will just disappear into the ether and give Albo free reign to do what he wants with no accountability.

I didn't realize that Albo is a royalist.

 

[fortunatecrow]

I suspect the Dems may be keeping that one in the bank, in case he should ever attempt to stand for office again.

They might be, who knows, but "there is very little doubt that a similar fate (barring the guilty plea) awaits Trump as soon as he is no longer President" looks, in hindsight, a little over-egged.

 

[Numinous]

What I don't understand is why he wasn't charged over the Michael Cohen case. Cohen went to prison, after committing "felonies for the benefit of, at the direction of, and in coordination with Individual Number 1. And for the record, Individual Number 1 is President Donald J. Trump."

I suspect the Dems may be keeping that one in the bank, in case he should ever attempt to stand for office again.

The main problem as I see it is a jury trial means that he'd get acquitted - there would have to be at least some Trump supporters on any jury. Then he'd just start ranting about how he was cleared of fake charges etc.

 

[kirky]

Had to laugh at Albo, he wants to do politics better. He had 2 recent chances but he instead played politics.

Did not investigate Mean Girls despite asking for a review into the Libs repeatedly when claims were made against them.
Left his policy costings until late Thursday before the election because thats what the government did previously and this despite calling them out for it.

Winners are grinners, losers can please themselves.

He is now PM.

Mean girls was hearsay. We don’t work on heresay. By all means find a quote from the late Kimberley Kitching.

 

[kirky]

I've pointed them out and why I think they you are choosing to ignore that.

Given the difficulty in you understanding why their policies have moved right.

Show me they aren't? That should be easy

He is just being a troll now.

 

[kirky]

When's that going to happen exactly? We should start a count similar to Rucci's Scott Thompson counter, reckon it'll get into the 1000 day mark at least.

It will be in by the end of the year.

This isn’t the Coalition government that did **** all for 3 years. Still waiting for one of the Coalition supporters to provide a list of their achievements over the past 3 years.

 

[George Kramer]

Winners are grinners, losers can please themselves.

He is now PM.

Mean girls was hearsay. We don’t work on heresay. By all means find a quote from the late Kimberley Kitching.

Crikey, could you stoop any lower? How about her family?

He can, just don't pretend something you are not otherwise you will be eventually found out.

But curious do you support his position that politics should be better?

 

[kirky]

Crikey, could you stoop any lower? How about her family?

He can, just don't pretend something you are not otherwise you will be eventually found out.

But curious do you support his position that politics should be better?

Again hearsay!

Someone saying it doesn’t make it true (forgot that is what SmoCo did as PM so I understand why youvwoukd think thst) and especially her family after her death. You do know the definition of hearsay?

Again, you raised the topic, not me.

Do I support his position to make politics better? Absolutely and the proof will be over the next three years.

 

[Vader]

They might be, who knows, but "there is very little doubt that a similar fate (barring the guilty plea) awaits Trump as soon as he is no longer President" looks, in hindsight, a little over-egged.

It would appear that way.

It's almost inconceivable that they wouldn't have a case, ready and waiting for him, re: his role in the Cohen case. My guess is that they prefer not to charge ex-Presidents unless they have no choice. It's not a good look sending ex-Presidents to prison.

I suspect that him attempting to stand again would trigger the "no choice" clause in the DoJ's thinking.

 

[George Kramer]

He is just being a troll now.

Or he hasn't said he's done what he claims to have. Can you tell the policies that moved further right in the last term?

 

[Amacca 23]

It will be in by the end of the year.

This isn’t the Coalition government that did duck all for 3 years. Still waiting for one of the Coalition supporters to provide a list of their achievements over the past 3 years.

I have 1 quadrupling our national debt

 

[George Kramer]

Again hearsay!

Someone saying it doesn’t make it true (forgot that is what SmoCo did as PM so I understand why youvwoukd think thst) and especially her family after her death. You do know the definition of hearsay?

Again, you raised the topic, not me.

Yeah, the family and friends in grieving just made it all up. Crikey you are sick.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

It will be in by the end of the year.

This isn’t the Coalition government that did duck all for 3 years. Still waiting for one of the Coalition supporters to provide a list of their achievements over the past 3 years.

We shall see, I reckon there's going to be a lot of disappointed people by the end of this year.

 

[Cap]

No you haven't. You just stated the policies they had issues with, they didn't change so how did the party move further to the right?

Because the way they enacted their policies was to woo people to the Right

Like you, who don't question anything they do.

There is my answer Geroge (the same one I've given multiple times, and all the newspapers have said)

Hopefully you've come up with the reasons I'm wrong

 

[1970crow]

According to a few posters here there is no evidence the Libs moved to the right.

So it's pure fantasy that all the political analysts have got wrong.

Except I'm sure Sky.

Lots of talk now that it was pretty much just personal dislike for Morrison.

 

[George Kramer]

Because the way they enacted their policies was to woo people to the Right

Like you, who don't question anything they do.

There is my answer Geroge (the same one I've given multiple times, and all the newspapers have said)

Hopefully you've come up with the reasons I'm wrong

Which policies they enacted changed to woo people to the right? This you’ve failed to address after how many attempts to deflect?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Is it just me or does Allegra Spender sound like a pr0n-star name?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Question for the lefties here:

Which federal Liberal politician do you hate hate hate the most?