List Mgmt. Adelaide Crows 2021 List Management thread

Will the Crows pick up any of these players in the off-season?

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Dangarman said:
Don't know enough about Dumont to judge, but I understand he is a UFA, so we could get him for nothing. However, we would be a net FA of zero, so would lose the Kelly compo pick.
So if we did want him, we would likely want to do a token trade (e.g. swapping our pick 63 with their 69) like the Hawks did with Harto.
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I think given where our list is at I would rather roll the dice with a pick 63 and hope we get someone good.

I rate Dumont but he’s the kind of player that you would look to to bolster depth as you’re trying to push for top four, not while you’re looking to get games into young guys.

In that interview Rendell made the point that in a rebuild you need to get your young players to 50 games as quickly as possible/practical which makes a lot of sense. Given we have Laird, Crouch and Sloane already Dumont would only hinder that.
 
Mego Red said:
I literally just watched every single possession and one percenter he had in his final game. They're cut together in the AFL app.

He was ineffectual. It's fine, but we should be careful we don't overstate the likelihood of him succeeding.
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You do know which player is Murray, as otherwise I don't know what game you were watching.
 
WeeBlake said:
I guess this thread is a good spot to talk about mcasey’s value.

I know he’s a young kpp and they take time, but on what we have seen so far there is every reason to be worried. He’s already obviously behind butts and Murray, and maybe even Frampton, on our coaches’ kpd depth chart. He has never played a really good game at AFL level, and I am not aware of him ever having played a breakout game at SANFL level. Again, I know, he’s young, but it’s worrying that we haven’t really seen any signs pointing to a really good player yet.

despite this, I get the feeling people on here value him highly still. Why? Is if because we picked him so high? His junior career?He is not fast, or super competitive, or an amazing mark. He’s not a great runner. He’s not an incredible kick.

I think he’s probably worth something in the pick 20 to 30 range at the moment. To us, he’s probably worth even less, precisely because we don’t really need kpds. We’d be better off with another young pick 20-30 mid or small forward than continuing to hope he eventually gets to a schache-level career.
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Talls do take longer to develop & it's way too early to call one way or the other.

Trading him at his lowest value would be crazy IMO.

We need to have 3 good young tall defender options, as one may be injured or out of form.
 

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Adelaide
Out of contract (2): Ben Davis, Ronin O’Connor

Unrestricted free agent defender Jake Kelly will sign with Essendon as early as Friday. Davis and O’Connor will have to wait after limited senior opportunities this season. Out-of-contract Swan Jordan Dawson has requested a trade to his hometown Crows.




Brisbane Lions
Out of contract (3): Connor Ballenden, Tom Joyce, Brock Smith

Mid-season draftee ruckman Kalin Lane has re-signed for next year, but fellow big man Archie Smith retired after initially requesting a fresh start a fortnight ago. It will be interesting to see whether the Lions try to secure another ruckman or if they stick with Tom Fullarton, Lane and Henry Smith behind Oscar McInerney. It’s a waiting game for Ballenden – another big man – Joyce and Smith.

Carlton
Out of contract (10): Jordan Boyd, Matt Cottrell, Mick Gibbons, Matthew Kennedy, Oscar McDonald, Lochie O’Brien, Matt Owies, Luke Parks, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Sam Ramsay

Petrevski-Seton has requested a trade to West Coast that could see out-of-favour Eagle and fellow first-round draft pick Jarrod Brander become a Blue. Restricted free agent George Hewett is expected to leave the Swans and sign with the Blues for up to four seasons. Josh Honey has re-signed for 2022 after an impressive end to this year, while category B rookie Owies will likely ink a deal of the same length. Kennedy had his best season to date but Hewett’s impending arrival could complicate matters, while O’Brien’s future is also up in the air.

Collingwood
Out of contract (8): Isaac Chugg, Mason Cox, Max Lynch, John Noble, Scott Pendlebury, Jay Rantall, Brayden Sier, Josh Thomas

Trey Ruscoe scored a two-year deal – which was agreed upon some time ago – while Jack Ginnivan, Tom Wilson and Jack Madgen are off the market after committing to one-season contracts. Pendlebury will remain a Magpie, but whether his contract is for one or two years is still to be determined. Noble played every game this season and is tipped to stay at Collingwood for another two years. Lynch is a player of interest for ruck-needy rivals, so is one to watch in the next fortnight. Could he unlock the Patrick Lipinski deal? It’s a waiting game for several others, including Rantall, who likely won’t find out his future until after the trade period.

Essendon
Out of contract (2): Dylan Clarke, Marty Gleeson

The Bombers are well advanced on their list composition, with Tom Cutler, Tom Hird and Irish rookie Cian McBride the latest to be locked away for next year. They are preparing to welcome ex-Crow Jake Kelly as a free agency signing, while Clarke and Gleeson will probably have to wait until the end of the trade period to discover their fate.


Fremantle
Out of contract (3): Adam Cerra, Mitch Crowden, Darcy Tucker

Cerra looks set to be the biggest prize in this year’s player movement period after requesting a trade home to Victoria. He is expected to land at Carlton in exchange for the Blues’ pick 6 and potentially some other moving parts. Discussions on an extension are ongoing for Tucker, while Crowden will have to wait a bit longer. They both played 16 senior games this year. The Dockers are hoping to broker a trade with Geelong for 2018 first-round draft pick Jordan Clark.


Geelong
Out of contract (8): Oscar Brownless, Brad Close, Charlie Constable, Francis Evans, Lachie Henderson, Zach Guthrie, Nathan Kreuger, Stefan Okunbor

Rhys Stanley has re-signed to extend his Cats career into an eighth season, while Close is nearing a two-year arrangement. Kreuger wants to be traded to Collingwood, and Fremantle is honing in on the contracted Jordan Clark. How strong Geelong’s interest is in ex-Crow Daniel Talia could determine Henderson’s future. Guthrie and Evans are both likely to go around again, and Brownless showed promising signs at the lower level but will have to wait. Constable wants more senior opportunities after another excellent VFL campaign. The new rookie rules should help Okunbor.

Gold Coast
Out of contract (6): Matt Conroy, Patrick Murtagh, Hewago Paul Oea, Malcolm Rosas, Luke Towey, Jacob Townsend

Rosas is close to finalising a new deal for the next two seasons after knocking back the Bombers’ inquiries. The Suns will secure Tiger Mabior Chol on a four-year free agency deal, while category B rookie Oea and Queensland rookie products Conroy and Murtagh are expected to continue. Irishman Towey will have to wait to find out his fate, and whether Gold Coast gives four-club player Townsend another year remains to be seen. Contracted pair Will Brodie and Darcy McPherson are open to opportunities elsewhere.


GWS Giants
Out of contract (8): Callum Brown, Phil Davis, Matt Flynn, Daniel Lloyd, Jake Riccardi, Will Shaw, Zach Sproule, Jake Stein

Flynn and Riccardi are both expected to re-sign for two more years with the Giants, while former co-captain Davis will continue at the club, too. Shane Mumford will retire and focus on his coaching duties at the club. No one else is expected to be delisted, with Lloyd, Sproule and Stein all set for one-year deals. Brown and Shaw are poised for another season as category B rookies.


Hawthorn
Out of contract (6): Jackson Callow, Ollie Hanrahan, Dan Howe, Finn Maginness, Tim O’Brien, Jack Saunders

Negotiations are ongoing for Maginness, but he is expected to remain in brown and gold, as should Howe after a career-best season. Mid-season draftee Callow is on track to stay on the list for 2022, while Hanrahan and O’Brien are on hold through the trade period. Port Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs are among the clubs that have shown preliminary interest in O’Brien if the Hawks don’t offer him a contract. The rookie rules will help Saunders’ cause.

Melbourne
Out of contract (8): Toby Bedford, Kade Chandler, Majak Daw, Michael Hibberd, Marty Hore, Deakyn Smith, Kye Declase, Daniel Turner

Oskar Baker and Mitch Brown have re-signed for one year each, while premiership defender Hibberd, grand final emergency Chandler and Bedford are also set to go around again. Daw was a late list addition but was a good VFL performer – primarily as a ruckman – and is poised to receive an unlikely lifeline. Mid-season draftees Declase and Turner will have to wait but both are likely to be retained. Hore and Smith will need to be patient. Aaron vandenBerg opted to explore his options elsewhere rather than wait for a potential offer post-trade period.


North Melbourne
Out of contract (4): Shaun Atley, Tom Campbell, Trent Dumont, Charlie Ham

Robbie Tarrant will depart the Kangaroos to accept a two-year deal with Richmond – and fellow unrestricted free agent Dumont is also set to play elsewhere in 2022. North has put contract negotiations on hold for Dumont, Atley, Campbell and mid-season addition Ham. Tiger tall Callum Coleman-Jones wants to join the Roos on a long-term deal, so Tarrant may end up being part of that trade instead of signing at Punt Rd as a free agent.


Port Adelaide
Out of contract (9): Riley Bonner, Trent Burgoyne, Martin Frederick, Robbie Gray, Jarrod Lienert, Sam Mayes, Steven Motlop, Boyd Woodcock, Jed McEntee

New deals for Bonner (two years) and Gray (one) are believed to be imminent, while Frederick will also return on a one-season arrangement. Negotiations for Motlop to play on are ongoing. Burgoyne, Lienert, Mayes and Woodcock will have to wait, as will mid-season draftee McEntee, but he is expected to be at Alberton in 2022. Tyson Goldsack will retire for a second time. Peter Ladhams will explore his options to see if he can be a No.1 ruckman elsewhere, with the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda among his potential landing points. But Port Adelaide would expect good compensation.

Richmond
Out of contract (7): Callum Coleman-Jones, Noah Cumberland, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Ryan Garthwaite, Ben Miller, Bigoa Nyuon, Sydney Stack

Coleman-Jones wants to become a Kangaroo, but the Tigers, who have lured veteran defender Robbie Tarrant from Arden St, have made it clear they expect a fair return in any trade. Tarrant’s arrival could impact on whether both Garthwaite and Miller remain on the list. Mabior Chol will sign a four-year free agency contract with Gold Coast, so Richmond may try to trade for Tarrant to not impact on their Chol compensation. Stack will stay in yellow and black but his new deal is not yet official. Cumberland, Eggmolesse-Smith and Nyuon will have to wait.

St Kilda
Out of contract (5): Paul Hunter, Darragh Joyce, Dean Kent, Jack Lonie, Seb Ross

Ross is the standout name here and has had a multi-year contract offer in front of him for some time. The unrestricted free agent is one of many inside midfielders still on the market but the most credentialed, as a dual club champion. The Saints are after another ruckman, but Hunter could stay on the list either way. Lonie’s been linked to various clubs over the years and will have to wait to find out his fate, along with Kent and Joyce. Luke Dunstan has parted ways with St Kilda, and Gold Coast has shown interest in signing him as a rookie.


Sydney Swans
Out of contract (6): Jordan Dawson, George Hewett, Barry O’Connor, Sam Reid, Ben Ronke, Sam Wicks

Dawson has requested a trade to Adelaide, while restricted free agent Hewett is expected to sign with the Blues on a long-term contract. Colin O’Riordan and Callum Sinclair removed themselves from this list with fresh one-year extensions, while Wicks is very close to inking a multi-year contract to remain in red and white. There are younger options challenging Reid at the Swans and he ended the season out of the senior side, but he may be back in 2022. A new deal for category B rookie O’Connor is on hold but he is a good chance to continue, while it’s unclear where Ronke sits after an injury-marred season.

West Coast
Out of contract (6): Jarrod Brander, Luke Foley, Shannon Hurn, Jamaine Jones, Josh Kennedy, Connor West

The Eagles have told Brander to explore his options elsewhere and he may end up being part of the deal for Carlton’s Sam Petrevski-Seton, who has requested a trade to West Coast. Veterans Hurn and Kennedy can return for another year if they choose to. Contracted small forward Jarrod Cameron’s decision to take a break from the AFL next year has boosted Jones’ prospects, while Foley is likely to be retained. West survived the delistings to date, unlike fellow mid-season draftee Will Collins.

Western Bulldogs

Out of contract (8): Ben Cavarra, Will Hayes, Patrick Lipinski, Stefan Martin, Roarke Smith, Jordon Sweet, Mitch Wallis, Lewis Young

Lipinski made official on Tuesday what’s been reported for weeks – he wants to be traded to Collingwood. He may not be the last Bulldog to do that, with Young gauging opposition interest despite having a two-year offer from the club. Wallis can also stay if he wants to, which is increasingly probable, given his lack of other options. If Wallis re-signs, it’s unlikely Cavarra will score a new deal. Smith was a solid performer in the grand final and had his best season at AFL level, so he will be retained. The Dogs are on the hunt for a ruckman, so it will be interesting to see how that pursuit impacts on Martin and Sweet. Hayes will have to wait.
 
Mutineer said:
Adelaide
Out of contract (2): Ben Davis, Ronin O’Connor

Unrestricted free agent defender Jake Kelly will sign with Essendon as early as Friday. Davis and O’Connor will have to wait after limited senior opportunities this season. Out-of-contract Swan Jordan Dawson has requested a trade to his hometown Crows.




Brisbane Lions
Out of contract (3): Connor Ballenden, Tom Joyce, Brock Smith

Mid-season draftee ruckman Kalin Lane has re-signed for next year, but fellow big man Archie Smith retired after initially requesting a fresh start a fortnight ago. It will be interesting to see whether the Lions try to secure another ruckman or if they stick with Tom Fullarton, Lane and Henry Smith behind Oscar McInerney. It’s a waiting game for Ballenden – another big man – Joyce and Smith.

Carlton
Out of contract (10): Jordan Boyd, Matt Cottrell, Mick Gibbons, Matthew Kennedy, Oscar McDonald, Lochie O’Brien, Matt Owies, Luke Parks, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Sam Ramsay

Petrevski-Seton has requested a trade to West Coast that could see out-of-favour Eagle and fellow first-round draft pick Jarrod Brander become a Blue. Restricted free agent George Hewett is expected to leave the Swans and sign with the Blues for up to four seasons. Josh Honey has re-signed for 2022 after an impressive end to this year, while category B rookie Owies will likely ink a deal of the same length. Kennedy had his best season to date but Hewett’s impending arrival could complicate matters, while O’Brien’s future is also up in the air.

Collingwood
Out of contract (8): Isaac Chugg, Mason Cox, Max Lynch, John Noble, Scott Pendlebury, Jay Rantall, Brayden Sier, Josh Thomas

Trey Ruscoe scored a two-year deal – which was agreed upon some time ago – while Jack Ginnivan, Tom Wilson and Jack Madgen are off the market after committing to one-season contracts. Pendlebury will remain a Magpie, but whether his contract is for one or two years is still to be determined. Noble played every game this season and is tipped to stay at Collingwood for another two years. Lynch is a player of interest for ruck-needy rivals, so is one to watch in the next fortnight. Could he unlock the Patrick Lipinski deal? It’s a waiting game for several others, including Rantall, who likely won’t find out his future until after the trade period.

Essendon
Out of contract (2): Dylan Clarke, Marty Gleeson

The Bombers are well advanced on their list composition, with Tom Cutler, Tom Hird and Irish rookie Cian McBride the latest to be locked away for next year. They are preparing to welcome ex-Crow Jake Kelly as a free agency signing, while Clarke and Gleeson will probably have to wait until the end of the trade period to discover their fate.


Fremantle
Out of contract (3): Adam Cerra, Mitch Crowden, Darcy Tucker

Cerra looks set to be the biggest prize in this year’s player movement period after requesting a trade home to Victoria. He is expected to land at Carlton in exchange for the Blues’ pick 6 and potentially some other moving parts. Discussions on an extension are ongoing for Tucker, while Crowden will have to wait a bit longer. They both played 16 senior games this year. The Dockers are hoping to broker a trade with Geelong for 2018 first-round draft pick Jordan Clark.


Geelong
Out of contract (8): Oscar Brownless, Brad Close, Charlie Constable, Francis Evans, Lachie Henderson, Zach Guthrie, Nathan Kreuger, Stefan Okunbor

Rhys Stanley has re-signed to extend his Cats career into an eighth season, while Close is nearing a two-year arrangement. Kreuger wants to be traded to Collingwood, and Fremantle is honing in on the contracted Jordan Clark. How strong Geelong’s interest is in ex-Crow Daniel Talia could determine Henderson’s future. Guthrie and Evans are both likely to go around again, and Brownless showed promising signs at the lower level but will have to wait. Constable wants more senior opportunities after another excellent VFL campaign. The new rookie rules should help Okunbor.

Gold Coast
Out of contract (6): Matt Conroy, Patrick Murtagh, Hewago Paul Oea, Malcolm Rosas, Luke Towey, Jacob Townsend

Rosas is close to finalising a new deal for the next two seasons after knocking back the Bombers’ inquiries. The Suns will secure Tiger Mabior Chol on a four-year free agency deal, while category B rookie Oea and Queensland rookie products Conroy and Murtagh are expected to continue. Irishman Towey will have to wait to find out his fate, and whether Gold Coast gives four-club player Townsend another year remains to be seen. Contracted pair Will Brodie and Darcy McPherson are open to opportunities elsewhere.


GWS Giants
Out of contract (8): Callum Brown, Phil Davis, Matt Flynn, Daniel Lloyd, Jake Riccardi, Will Shaw, Zach Sproule, Jake Stein

Flynn and Riccardi are both expected to re-sign for two more years with the Giants, while former co-captain Davis will continue at the club, too. Shane Mumford will retire and focus on his coaching duties at the club. No one else is expected to be delisted, with Lloyd, Sproule and Stein all set for one-year deals. Brown and Shaw are poised for another season as category B rookies.


Hawthorn
Out of contract (6): Jackson Callow, Ollie Hanrahan, Dan Howe, Finn Maginness, Tim O’Brien, Jack Saunders

Negotiations are ongoing for Maginness, but he is expected to remain in brown and gold, as should Howe after a career-best season. Mid-season draftee Callow is on track to stay on the list for 2022, while Hanrahan and O’Brien are on hold through the trade period. Port Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs are among the clubs that have shown preliminary interest in O’Brien if the Hawks don’t offer him a contract. The rookie rules will help Saunders’ cause.

Melbourne
Out of contract (8): Toby Bedford, Kade Chandler, Majak Daw, Michael Hibberd, Marty Hore, Deakyn Smith, Kye Declase, Daniel Turner

Oskar Baker and Mitch Brown have re-signed for one year each, while premiership defender Hibberd, grand final emergency Chandler and Bedford are also set to go around again. Daw was a late list addition but was a good VFL performer – primarily as a ruckman – and is poised to receive an unlikely lifeline. Mid-season draftees Declase and Turner will have to wait but both are likely to be retained. Hore and Smith will need to be patient. Aaron vandenBerg opted to explore his options elsewhere rather than wait for a potential offer post-trade period.


North Melbourne
Out of contract (4): Shaun Atley, Tom Campbell, Trent Dumont, Charlie Ham

Robbie Tarrant will depart the Kangaroos to accept a two-year deal with Richmond – and fellow unrestricted free agent Dumont is also set to play elsewhere in 2022. North has put contract negotiations on hold for Dumont, Atley, Campbell and mid-season addition Ham. Tiger tall Callum Coleman-Jones wants to join the Roos on a long-term deal, so Tarrant may end up being part of that trade instead of signing at Punt Rd as a free agent.


Port Adelaide
Out of contract (9): Riley Bonner, Trent Burgoyne, Martin Frederick, Robbie Gray, Jarrod Lienert, Sam Mayes, Steven Motlop, Boyd Woodcock, Jed McEntee

New deals for Bonner (two years) and Gray (one) are believed to be imminent, while Frederick will also return on a one-season arrangement. Negotiations for Motlop to play on are ongoing. Burgoyne, Lienert, Mayes and Woodcock will have to wait, as will mid-season draftee McEntee, but he is expected to be at Alberton in 2022. Tyson Goldsack will retire for a second time. Peter Ladhams will explore his options to see if he can be a No.1 ruckman elsewhere, with the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda among his potential landing points. But Port Adelaide would expect good compensation.

Richmond
Out of contract (7): Callum Coleman-Jones, Noah Cumberland, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Ryan Garthwaite, Ben Miller, Bigoa Nyuon, Sydney Stack

Coleman-Jones wants to become a Kangaroo, but the Tigers, who have lured veteran defender Robbie Tarrant from Arden St, have made it clear they expect a fair return in any trade. Tarrant’s arrival could impact on whether both Garthwaite and Miller remain on the list. Mabior Chol will sign a four-year free agency contract with Gold Coast, so Richmond may try to trade for Tarrant to not impact on their Chol compensation. Stack will stay in yellow and black but his new deal is not yet official. Cumberland, Eggmolesse-Smith and Nyuon will have to wait.

St Kilda
Out of contract (5): Paul Hunter, Darragh Joyce, Dean Kent, Jack Lonie, Seb Ross

Ross is the standout name here and has had a multi-year contract offer in front of him for some time. The unrestricted free agent is one of many inside midfielders still on the market but the most credentialed, as a dual club champion. The Saints are after another ruckman, but Hunter could stay on the list either way. Lonie’s been linked to various clubs over the years and will have to wait to find out his fate, along with Kent and Joyce. Luke Dunstan has parted ways with St Kilda, and Gold Coast has shown interest in signing him as a rookie.


Sydney Swans
Out of contract (6): Jordan Dawson, George Hewett, Barry O’Connor, Sam Reid, Ben Ronke, Sam Wicks

Dawson has requested a trade to Adelaide, while restricted free agent Hewett is expected to sign with the Blues on a long-term contract. Colin O’Riordan and Callum Sinclair removed themselves from this list with fresh one-year extensions, while Wicks is very close to inking a multi-year contract to remain in red and white. There are younger options challenging Reid at the Swans and he ended the season out of the senior side, but he may be back in 2022. A new deal for category B rookie O’Connor is on hold but he is a good chance to continue, while it’s unclear where Ronke sits after an injury-marred season.

West Coast
Out of contract (6): Jarrod Brander, Luke Foley, Shannon Hurn, Jamaine Jones, Josh Kennedy, Connor West

The Eagles have told Brander to explore his options elsewhere and he may end up being part of the deal for Carlton’s Sam Petrevski-Seton, who has requested a trade to West Coast. Veterans Hurn and Kennedy can return for another year if they choose to. Contracted small forward Jarrod Cameron’s decision to take a break from the AFL next year has boosted Jones’ prospects, while Foley is likely to be retained. West survived the delistings to date, unlike fellow mid-season draftee Will Collins.

Western Bulldogs

Out of contract (8): Ben Cavarra, Will Hayes, Patrick Lipinski, Stefan Martin, Roarke Smith, Jordon Sweet, Mitch Wallis, Lewis Young

Lipinski made official on Tuesday what’s been reported for weeks – he wants to be traded to Collingwood. He may not be the last Bulldog to do that, with Young gauging opposition interest despite having a two-year offer from the club. Wallis can also stay if he wants to, which is increasingly probable, given his lack of other options. If Wallis re-signs, it’s unlikely Cavarra will score a new deal. Smith was a solid performer in the grand final and had his best season at AFL level, so he will be retained. The Dogs are on the hunt for a ruckman, so it will be interesting to see how that pursuit impacts on Martin and Sweet. Hayes will have to wait.
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Thoughts on Brock Smith Mutineer if we could get as a DFA? Seemed like a really strong 1-on-1 lock down defender in his draft year, but hasn't broken into the Brisbane side. What's his agility like?

Too much like Jake Kelly?
 
Thetrader15 said:
Thoughts on Brock Smith Mutineer if we could get as a DFA? Seemed like a really strong 1-on-1 lock down defender in his draft year, but hasn't broken into the Brisbane side. What's his agility like?

Too much like Jake Kelly?
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Looked a decent enough medium defender at the Gippy Power and certainly brings aggression but don't see him as need so no.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Talls do take longer to develop & it's way too early to call one way or the other.

Trading him at his lowest value would be crazy IMO.

We need to have 3 good young tall defender options, as one may be injured or out of form.
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Interesting that Justin Reid mentioned that Fisch had some learning this year on the importance of what is done in the off season
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Talls do take longer to develop & it's way too early to call one way or the other.

Trading him at his lowest value would be crazy IMO.

We need to have 3 good young tall defender options, as one may be injured or out of form.
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I agree trading him at his lowest value would be crazy. I guess we disagree on whether his value is likely to be lower or higher in a year or two.
I also disagree about your backup point. We have ample kpd depth, too much. It is not the end of the world if we have to play Frampton gollant or Worrell or Borlase as a KPD.

having a limited list sizes means we can’t have it all. If we have to choose between drafting another mid who might fix our glaring shitty midfield problem, and keeping our over-cautious depth in our kpds, I do not think it is a hard choice.
 
dogs105 said:
Interesting that Justin Reid mentioned that Fisch had some learning this year on the importance of what is done in the off season
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Reid also said the club liked him forward of the ball when he was finally moved there permanently late in the season, so hopefully that will mean they’ll be training him there in the pre-season 🤞 #FischIsAForward
 
Firewalker said:
Reid also said the club liked him forward of the ball when he was finally moved there permanently late in the season, so hopefully that will mean they’ll be training him there in the pre-season 🤞 #FischIsAForward
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From a needs perspective I think forward is the go with Fish at present.

Butts, Murray and Frampton appear to have the key talls in defense relatively sorted with Doedee, Worrell and Borlase complementing to certain degrees.

Up forward, Thilthorpe and Fog are likely long term key talls, but there’s room for 1 more and neither have “made it” per se either. Also much harder to find good tall forwards.
 
WeeBlake said:
I agree trading him at his lowest value would be crazy. I guess we disagree on whether his value is likely to be lower or higher in a year or two.
I also disagree about your backup point. We have ample kpd depth, too much. It is not the end of the world if we have to play Frampton gollant or Worrell or Borlase as a KPD.

having a limited list sizes means we can’t have it all. If we have to choose between drafting another mid who might fix our glaring shitty midfield problem, and keeping our over-cautious depth in our kpds, I do not think it is a hard choice.
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Gollant (192cm, 80kg) as a KPD o_O ...where does this come from?

He played his juniors as a wing and has been used as a forward at the Crows, performing well in that role.

Worrell is tall, but no KPD either.
 
Thetrader15 said:
Gollant (192cm, 80kg) as a KPD o_O ...where does this come from?

He played his juniors as a wing and has been used as a forward at the Crows, performing well in that role.

Worrell is tall, but no KPD either.
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I’m not saying they are best suited there, it’s a break-glass-in-emergency option
plenty of teams get by with one or more undersized KPDs on the field (either every week, or when they have injuries). We don’t need two full sized gorilla-stopping KPDs on the field, plus three more in reserve.
 

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UcantCme said:
I recall watching a bombers game late in the season and the commentators said Francis is coming off contract and had been offered a 1 year extension

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Nope see above the Hun has compiled a full list of out of contract players as at yesterday.
 
70lethal said:
Keay's disposal count increased 70% which is almost unheard of.
McHenry doubled in the last few games
Schoenberg's playing only 60% against Powa and having 31 disposals is insane.
Much better environment for draftees to walk in to

One could argue Van Berlo has had an impact on the 3 above considering they are mids or sort of mids but our midfield policy of Laird, Keays, Sloane suggests otherwise.
Burns seems to be the one doing the experimenting and making the bigger calls.
Jones to defence, Frampton tried in defence, Murray given games, Butts chucked in the deep end, McAsey tried up forward, defenders Talia and Kelly let go and I dare say Mackay as well contrary to what we were told.

I feel it gives hope that McAsey or Worrell can turn it around also and provide significant upside and that goes for Milera as well. He was travelling pretty well in 2018 during all the garb that was going on. Lincoln McCarthy had 4 out of 5 seasons riddled with injuries so all is not lost on Milera.

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Keays was the 5th of 4 mids last year. When Brad was up and going he was pushed out to half forward. He played 100% of his TOG as a mid this year. Taking thst and the extra 20% game time into account and it's not too unexpected.
 
George Kramer said:
Reid is on 5AA after 5
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Heard him, didn’t really give anything away.

rowie kept asking him what it would take to get JHF, Reidy just deflected the questions.

He did say we probably wouldn’t get luko this off season , and no to finlayson, clurey and Leinert.
 
Mego Red said:
I think getting regular goals wouldn't be his issue, but you probably need a couple of bags of four or five in a year to get to 40+, and I can't see him doing that.

Still, absolutely should happen.
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I can’t see why not, he can get goals in multiple ways: overhead marks, gut running to get open, front and centre, tackling pressure. He’s also a fairly reliable kick for goal so I don’t think it would take too much to go right for him to end up with a couple bags of 4-5.
 
Mutineer said:
Sooner see how James Rowe and Tariek Newchurch go under Darren Burgess' fitness regime and to add to that further development in Newchurch's game
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Reidy said yesterday that we need to expose our list before we go looking for gap fillers.
 

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