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[Garlic muncher]

So, Swans V GWS

FTA - 73k

Fox in Sydney - 45k -----Sat STV #AFL #FoxFooty #AFLSwansGiants 228k: Metro 193k (Syd 45k Mel 89k Bri 16k Ade 26k Per 17k)

Crowd at SCG - 35k (?)

150K in Sydney

 

[NoobPie]

So, Swans V GWS

FTA - 73k

Fox in Sydney - 45k -----Sat STV #AFL #FoxFooty #AFLSwansGiants 228k: Metro 193k (Syd 45k Mel 89k Bri 16k Ade 26k Per 17k)

Crowd at SCG - 35k (?)

150K in Sydney

Combined audience of 118k

Given they were only on foxtel, the total NRL sydney audiences were 88k, 105k and 115k

So even before the much higher attendance or reflecting that the game goes for an hour longer (and the Swans didn't get within 3 goals from early in the 2nd quarter) more people in Sydney were watching that AFL game then watched any of the League games on yesterday

...and Ringleader comes here to gloat?

 

[Garlic muncher]

Combined audience of 118k

Given they were only on foxtel, the total NRL sydney audiences were 88k, 105k and 115k

So even before the much higher attendance or reflecting that the game goes for an hour longer (and the Swans didn't get within 3 goals from early in the 2nd quarter) more people in Sydney were watching that AFL game then watched any of the League games on yesterday

...and Ringleader comes here to gloat?

73k on FTA on a Saturday night in Sydney seems OK to me.

150k combined watching the AFL on Saturday night seems pretty good as well

As i have posted previously i have always thought the Swans have about a 120k genuine fan base.

I suspect that the Giants have about 30k of the same.

 

[NoobPie]

73k on FTA on a Saturday night in Sydney seems OK to me.

150k combined watching the AFL on Saturday night seems pretty good as well

As i have posted previously i have always thought the Swans have about a 120k genuine fan base.

I suspect that the Giants have about 30k of the same.

Also, the fact the Swans were 0-4 surely had an impact as well

Using a "concentric circles" representation of supporter types, I'd say your 120k are the two inner circles. The Swans would have proportionally larger numbers of the outer two circles than, say, the small Melbourne clubs I'd imagine.

 

[Garlic muncher]

Also, the fact the Swans were 0-4 surely had an impact as well

Using a "concentric circles" representation of supporter types, I'd say your 120k are the two inner circles. The Swans would have proportionally larger numbers of the outer two circles than, say, the small Melbourne clubs I'd imagine.

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My guesstimate of 120k is the Swans get around 35k to the games, 40k or so on FTA and 40k or so on FOX, those numbers may swing and chop and change but that leads me to think their genuine fan base in Sydney is around 120k.

People who buy memberships and go to games, people who cant go to games and decide not to buy a membership because of other commitments but will watch on FTA or Fox and people who are not interested in going to the SCG but prefer to follow via TV.

I also understand that the Swans sell a heap of 3 game memberships, so people pick what games they want to go to, so over the course of a season you may average 35k, but they will not be the same people every week, like you would see at a Dockers or Eagles game who sell out of season memberships and the same people have been going for 20 years.

 

[Garlic muncher]

Sat TV #AFL Seven/7mate Night 600k: Seven 473k (Syd 73k Mel 258k Ade 142k) 7mate Per 127k

Just on that number, i wonder why 7 put the Swans game on that channel instead of the usual 7mate.

 

[baaaall!]

Sat TV #AFL Seven/7mate Night 600k: Seven 473k (Syd 73k Mel 258k Ade 142k) 7mate Per 127k

Just on that number, i wonder why 7 put the Swans game on that channel instead of the usual 7mate.

Because it was the derby maybe? The round one Qclash was on 7 in qld too, so maybe thats something they are doing this year.

 

[ringleader]

Sat TV #AFL Seven/7mate Night 600k: Seven 473k (Syd 73k Mel 258k Ade 142k) 7mate Per 127k

Just on that number, i wonder why 7 put the Swans game on that channel instead of the usual 7mate.

I already posted earlier it was on the main channel. Are you now going to claim it would have rated higher on 7mate?

You always seem to make some excuse for poor crowds and ratings.

 

[Garlic muncher]

I already posted earlier it was on the main channel. Are you now going to claim it would have rated higher on 7mate?

You always seem to make some excuse for poor crowds and ratings.

What are you talking about, seriously are you on the gear or something ?.

Every post i have made about the ratings and crowds at the Swans/GWS game suggested that i thought it was pretty good.

I still think that.

73k FTA Sydney
35k at the ground
45k watching in Sydney on fox

153 watching the AFL in Sydney on saturday night.

 

[precarious]

As underwhelming as that 73k Sydney figure seems for a main channel, it is not all that out of place in the top 20 for Saturday night.

Only 9 of the top 20 listed programs (5-city metro) had 100k or more viewers in Sydney.

3 programs in the top 20 had less than 73k viewers in Sydney, and 9 programs had less than 90k (the AFL prematch figure).

As usual, Seven easily won the 5-city metro ratings for Saturday night for both main channel and network. Admittedly, this is despite rather than because of showing AFL on the main channel in Sydney, but the exercise was far from being a disaster for Seven.

If Seven were given exclusive rights to broadcast swans and giants games into Sydney (and lions and suns games into Brisbane), free-to-air ratings would get an immediate boost and, in time, perhaps justify Saturday and Sunday games being on the main channel.

It couldn't happen without an alteration in rights arrangements, of course, and would come with a drop in revenue, but might be worth it for the better exposure.

 

[bombersfan4000]

As underwhelming as that 73k Sydney figure seems for a main channel, it is not all that out of place in the top 20 for Saturday night.

Only 9 of the top 20 listed programs (5-city metro) had 100k or more viewers in Sydney.

3 programs in the top 20 had less than 73k viewers in Sydney, and 9 programs had less than 90k (the AFL prematch figure).

As usual, Seven easily won the 5-city metro ratings for Saturday night for both main channel and network. Admittedly, this is despite rather than because of showing AFL on the main channel in Sydney, but the exercise was far from being a disaster for Seven.

If Seven were given exclusive rights to broadcast swans and giants games into Sydney (and lions and suns games into Brisbane), free-to-air ratings would get an immediate boost and, in time, perhaps justify Saturday and Sunday games being on the main channel.

It couldn't happen without an alteration in rights arrangements, of course, and would come with a drop in revenue, but might be worth it for the better exposure.

with Sydney & Brisbane having the 1st and 3rd highest advertising dollar, the AFL still scores the most in broadcast dollar! go figure those ratings boxes

 

[precarious]

with Sydney & Brisbane having the 1st and 3rd highest advertising dollar, the AFL still scores the most in broadcast dollar! go figure those ratings boxes

I wasn't intending to sound critical of the 73k figure, if that's how it came across.

73k is modest for a main channel (though not all that out of place for Saturday night) and very healthy for a secondary channel. For example, it is double the highest multi-channel figure last Saturday night in Sydney (36k).

153k for TV viewers plus attendance is a pretty healthy position to build from in Sydney IMO.

 

[Parish2McGrath]

A-League finals rated 112k and 116k on Fox Sports this weekend, fairly good I would have thought.

 

[kaypee]

A-League finals rated 112k and 116k on Fox Sports this weekend, fairly good I would have thought.

Superb, the giant is awake. Do you want to buy a bridge in Sydney?

 

[Gigantor]

A-League finals rated 112k and 116k on Fox Sports this weekend, fairly good I would have thought.

True, not too bad, certainly better than what we've seen from the A-League, pretty much all season.

The AFL's 8th and 9th game will often be around those sorts of levels, which probably gives a good indication of where the A-League is at these days (that the best it can hope for is that its biggest ratings of the season sit alongsside the AFL's lowest ratings of the season).

 

[NoobPie]

True, not too bad, certainly better than what we've seen from the A-League, pretty much all season.

The AFL's 8th and 9th game will often be around those sorts of levels, which probably gives a good indication of where the A-League is at these days (that the best it can hope for is that its biggest ratings of the season sit alongsside the AFL's lowest ratings of the season).

I'd be surprised if the AFL ever rates that level when the game is not overlapping with another AFL game.

Wookie might enligten me to the contrary but I would think, if AFL reg season games are on, there are always more than that number watching on Foxtel

 

[Gigantor]

I'd be surprised if the AFL ever rates that level when the game is not overlapping with another AFL game.

Wookie might enligten me to the contrary but I would think, if AFL reg season games are on, there are always more than that number watching on Foxtel

There might be some outliers, but otherwise I would agree with you there.

 

[Freomaniac]

http://www.afr.com/business/media-a...s-for-freetoair-soccer-rights-20170419-gvnv3y

Football Federation Australia has failed to entice the three commercial free-to-air television networks into bidding for A-League and Socceroos matches, leaving the ABC in the box seat to gain the rights.

Seven West Media, Nine Entertainment, Network Ten and current FTA rights holder SBS are understood to have not lodged an official bid with the FFA by last Thursday's deadline, having baulked at some FFA requirements such as having to pay Fox Sports $2 million in annual production costs.

It is understood and FFA and ABC are in discussions.

Its pretty sad that 7, 9 or 10 cant even pay 2 million to foxtel for the production costs.

Still..... I don't mind Seeing the A-league on ABC, At least their coverage was good when they did the W-league and the 2015 Asian cup.

I know the SANFL, WAFL and VFL pay 1 million a year to show their game on channel 7 on Saturday or Sunday afternoon, Plus channel 7 advertise their games well too.

It would be risky for the FFA to pay 4-5 million a year for a Saturday game on 7two or 7 mate.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Our Game]

AFL 391,980

NRL 149,724

A League 2 Finals 27,474

RU?

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[BringBackTorps]

SEN Radio F. Leach program 26.4
Interviewed M. Hawthorne, 'The Age'journalist.

UBS stockbrokers have stated BBL has not created a net increase in total cricket (Test, ODI & BBL) ratings -& BBL has caused a significant reduction in Ch 9 cricket ratings. Ch. 9 is very unlikely to again pay $100,000,000 pa -its cricket ad revenue is only $60 -70,000,000, & TV ad revenue (across all TV programs) is dropping around Aust. & internationally.
BBL will probably obtain increased rights revenues.

I think the expanded AFLW will inevitably clash with cricket -will they cannibalise each other's ratings, or discreet audiences?

 

[kaypee]

Odd that rugby's crowds and ratings are both down by the same amount - five per cent. Is it explained by the early Friday game or something else?
One would think that if the drift continues, the only way they'll increase their media rights price will be through expansion.

 

[Professor Knowall]

I see (from the 2017 AFL crowds and ratings thread) that a total of 1,539,000 tuned into the Ess v Coll Anzac game over the 3 hours (1,157,000 on FTA, 382,000 on STA), in addition to the 85.6k at the ground.

How does this compare to the equivalent NRL game on at the same time?

 

[Garlic muncher]

Odd that rugby's crowds and ratings are both down by the same amount - five per cent. Is it explained by the early Friday game or something else?
One would think that if the drift continues, the only way they'll increase their media rights price will be through expansion.

Sydney FTA ratings down 14% which seems significant, overall crowds down 5%, would be interesting to see if Sydneys NRL crowds are down, my bet is they would be down a fair wack.