The looks on these guys faces give it away. Guy on the left, is WTF’ing, guy on the right is giving the oh shit look.
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Adrian Dodoro: Football’s Biggest Fraud IMO
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That was his 2nd final, his 1st he kicked 4 vs the Roos as a 20 year old in 2014
The real question is what do you do?
1. Remove Dodoro and overhaul list management... bring someone in with fresh ideas
2. Mini rebuild to bring in elite draft talent in positions your are lacking (daniher trade would've been perfect for that)
A full rebuild easier strategically to manage, the retool or mini rebuild is a tough one to crack
1. Remove Dodoro and overhaul list management... bring someone in with fresh ideas
2. Mini rebuild to bring in elite draft talent in positions your are lacking (daniher trade would've been perfect for that)
A full rebuild easier strategically to manage, the retool or mini rebuild is a tough one to crack
Mini rebuild works, similar to saints and port.
We have good young talent, 27 years and under. Shiel, Stringer, Merrett, Mcgrath, Ridley, Parish, Saad, Daniher, Draper, Tippa, BZT, Francis probably some more names I forgotten
Let go/trade
Hurley, Hooker, TBC, Fantasia, Mckernan, Mckenna, Redman, Zaha, Smith, Ambrose
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The guy looking at him is thinking “your promised us they would match”, the other guy looks dead inside. You can’t be sure from a photo, but it does point to this not turning out how they wanted.
I don’t think that’s what’s gone down at all. I’m far more worried about it being about Dodoro stealing one from Hawthorn then thinking they were gonna force the match.
The Hawks said they weren’t gonna match pre draft and we told Irving that we wanted him pre draft
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Using trade table tactics - which themselves are outdated,good teams go for win/win deals - in the draft.
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Fwiw it's worth 100 is bang on average
Out of those mentioned to trade, hardly any have some value. Redman might get a 2nd, Fantasia a 3rd. Hooker is finished. Hurley maybe a 2nd but only to a contender who needs a KPD(who isn't that great at defending btw)
The rest would be salary dumps.
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The only thing better than Dodoro's limp-wristed fist pump, after the farcical Mosquito pick, was that they could have selected Jack Bytel; the exact type of player Essendon needed. Throw in turning down 2x 1st round picks for Daniher last year, only to lose him for less, this year, and this is the flaming car wreck that we all love to watch.
Gotta love how Essendon supporters would always claim that the complaints about Dodildo, such as being impossible to trade with, were unfounded and arising from jealousy because of how 'astute' he is. It's only taken those supporters the better part of a decade to come to this realisation.
Gotta love how Essendon supporters would always claim that the complaints about Dodildo, such as being impossible to trade with, were unfounded and arising from jealousy because of how 'astute' he is. It's only taken those supporters the better part of a decade to come to this realisation.
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This still isn't true.
Yep, the word was they wanted Bytel, and to force us to pick Mozzie early.
They also missed by a few picks on Worpel a few years prior (bad luck obviously)
Worpel and Bytel, in hindsight is exactly what they needed right now.
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Exactly when you have a midfield as good as Geelong had you can get away with having just an ok forward line they competed hard that’s all that was needed similar to the eagles with Judd cousins and Kerr when you look at st kilda we had a much better forward line then the cats with a prime Riewoldt also kosi Milne and snider Geelongs midfield still came out on top though!
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I would be trying to send Francis back to sa as well see if you can flip him for one of the crouch brothers !
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Why was there the reaction then if they knew hawthorn weren’t going to match no other club was going to take him in that range if Essendon really wanted him they should have traded down they probably could have got him for a late third rounder
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Exactly.
And here's the thing, it's not as if Daniher is a complete forwardline anyway. Even with Daniher in the side, they'd still like another marking tall, and their medium tall setup isn't great. Their smalls are decent. I like Fantasia, but he's been injured a lot recently and has never played a full season, and AMT struggles against good sides and good defenders.
And sure, you need an amazing midfield to compensate, but I feel like you need a pretty good midfield anyway. You could get away with say building a goodish team and hoping to pinch the flag a la Footscray, but that's a) not likely to create sustained success b) often fails and c) you'd think a club as proud as Essendon would set their sights higher. The best teams which have sustained success have fantastic talent between the arcs and have at least one bona fide superstar in that part of the ground.
To me the current composition of Essendon's list isn't a premiership team, even with all their stars (and how many teams always play with their stars anyway). They need to mix it up, either by the draft or more trading. It feels like either Essendon are happy with mid-table finishes or think they should be finishing higher given the cattle and are thus confused about the lack of success. If it's the former, the whole club needs a clean-out, if it's the latter, they need to be asking questions about why they're not meeting internal expectations.
This is why, bomber fans who are defensive of Dodoro (and many of you, to be fair, aren't) this thread exists. Because Essendon have been going along for a while with some degree of stability. They have a coach who has coached over 100 games and has a winning record in the mid 40s, Dodoro has been there for a while and it's been a while since the saga has ended.
They remind me of Richmond of old who had the wrong people in important roles and weren't professional in their development or recruiting. Like, yes, they've made some interesting trades. Richmond also made some interesting trades, like getting Kane Johnson and Nathan Brown. But until the bombers know how to develop their own players, they're going to keep getting sucked into getting stuck in budding wars with other clubs paying handsomely through draft picks and salary. They're going to rely on what the trading market offers them instead of shaping their list themselves. This is why teams who aren't good who try and become good through trading don't work because it's much cheaper to develop your list yourself.
If I were Essendon I'd be trying to get more picks, not trading them away. They're apparently, if SEN are to believed, chasing Jack Graham, who is slow, doesn't know how to get that much of the ball and is really just a defensive tackle machine. He had a nice grand final but that was 2017. If you trade for him, you're trading for a good team's off-cuts. Why would you want someone else's off-cuts when you can try and develop your own good players? I get that one man's trash is another man's treasure and maybe you'll figure out how he can get more of the ball, but it's a big maybe.
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