2nds AFC 2022 SANFL Thread

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Stengle has far more X factor and showed that with us - just not consistently. Has had a couple of years of maturity and training since he was with us. And results for our forwards in 2020 don’t even count - we were as bad as any side ever


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Stengle actually has 1 on 1 ability as well and pretty good strength for his size.

He's never afraid to take someone on and his agility in close is on another level to Rowe, I'd place it in the elite category.

He has strong core and is difficult to tackle so you always see him turning on the tackle to wriggle away and kick a goal.

Rowe needs space and a clear run to get his possessions. When he does get them he has fairly good footy IQ and he uses it fairly well, however the next level of athleticism and speed of AFL has impacted the quality of his delivery. Defenders pay as much respect to Rowe as they do to McHendry and Murphy. Usually when Rowe gets the ball it's when the defender has gambled, run off and left him alone and the ball gets turned over. You never see him win a 1 on 1 contest, in fact I can't recall this ever happening.

The defenders actually stick to Stengle as he's a lot more dangerous around goal and doesn't need space.

Stengle is by far the better player, its not even a question. Id take Stengle over the three stooges every day of the week.

It is a bit pointless as he is now gone.

The thing I'm probably disappointed most about is how he was the younger player in the whole drug bust fiasco, but i feel he copped way more than Brad Crouch. I think from that point on the AFC were looking for excuses to cut him.
 

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Arrested for drug trafficking = drink driving offence

Kept the player, benefited from his performances

vs Dumped the player, another club benefited from his performances

Just another in a conga line of judgement misses
We did keep the player after a drink driving offense, right?

He just then had two seperate additional drug offenses?

I think the club gave Stengle multiple opportunities - maybe he just needed a couple of years to realise what he'd lost before he could sort himself out.
 
We did keep the player after a drink driving offense, right?

He just then had two seperate additional drug offenses?

I think the club gave Stengle multiple opportunities - maybe he just needed a couple of years to realise what he'd lost before he could sort himself out.
No one touched him in last mid season draft and got a call up by Geelong at 11th hour end of year

Geelong in their position with strong senior players could afford the risk , of course Eddie helped
 
No one touched him in last mid season draft and got a call up by Geelong at 11th hour end of year

Geelong in their position with strong senior players could afford the risk , of course Eddie helped
It could have backfired on Stengle badly.

He had a guaranteed contract for 2022 with us but didn't want to accept our punishment to play in the SANFL for a year.

He decided to end his contract with us on the gamble that he'd get picked up in the mid season draft, which didn't happen, so he ended up playing SANFL all year anyway, just without the security of an AFL contract for the following year.

He's very lucky Geelong took a chance on him, because half way through the season it didn't look like anyone was interested.

Had he not been picked up he would have been the fool, but instead he was, so now we look to be the fool
 
Where were all the Stengle loyalists after his indiscretions ?

Nice hindsight analysis

The chances of him being where he is now were very slim , taken at the 11th hour by Geelong

Good on him for turning it around , let’s see if he can keep it going
???.. i’ve defended him from the moment he was caught with Bcrouch..

I will never defend a repeat drink driver though.. he could get caught with coke a thousand times and I wouldnt give a toss..

But if it was drink driving he kept doing.. then sorry.. see ya.
 
It could have backfired on Stengle badly.

He had a guaranteed contract for 2022 with us but didn't want to accept our punishment to play in the SANFL for a year.

He decided to end his contract with us on the gamble that he'd get picked up in the mid season draft, which didn't happen, so he ended up playing SANFL all year anyway, just without the security of an AFL contract for the following year.

He's very lucky Geelong took a chance on him, because half way through the season it didn't look like anyone was interested.

Had he not been picked up he would have been the fool, but instead he was, so now we look to be the fool
???.. but our punishment wasnt to play in the sanfl for us for the year..

It was to not play for us for the year and sit out of football altogether.. then hope we may give him another chance after that..

We basically wanted him to put his entire career on hold.. left him little option but to leave.. and thats what the dumb**** stiffs at the club wanted..
 
???.. but our punishment wasnt to play in the sanfl for us for the year..

It was to not play for us for the year and sit out of football altogether.. then hope we may give him another chance after that..

We basically wanted him to put his entire career on hold.. left him little option but to leave.. and thats what the dumbduck stiffs at the club wanted..
Our offer was for him to play at another SANFL club for the year. He was still contracted for 2022 and our offer still meant he was on our list.

He gave that up to gamble someone would get him in the mid season draft
 
It could have backfired on Stengle badly.

He had a guaranteed contract for 2022 with us but didn't want to accept our punishment to play in the SANFL for a year.

He decided to end his contract with us on the gamble that he'd get picked up in the mid season draft, which didn't happen, so he ended up playing SANFL all year anyway, just without the security of an AFL contract for the following year.

He's very lucky Geelong took a chance on him, because half way through the season it didn't look like anyone was interested.

Had he not been picked up he would have been the fool, but instead he was, so now we look to be the fool
We don't look the fool. We had a player on our list who we educated, counselled and supported, but who couldn't live up to the professional standards so we parted ways after multiple events. Was and always was the right call.
 
???.. i’ve defended him from the moment he was caught with Bcrouch..

I will never defend a repeat drink driver though.. he could get caught with coke a thousand times and I wouldnt give a toss..

But if it was drink driving he kept doing.. then sorry.. see ya.
What if he was drug driving...is that one ok?
 
What if he was drug driving...is that one ok?
Sorry.. i shouldve written it as DUI.. not just drink driving..

Driving under the influence of either drugs or alcohol..

Like I said.. do all the coke you want.. but drink/take drugs and drive and you can faaark right off..
 

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End of the day..

we dumped a promising young kid who had 1 drink driving chrge and 1 possession of an illicit substance charge…

And a dubiuos photo that, in a court of law, wouldve been laughed at if presented as evidence of wrongdoing..

Now we have three small forwards (rowe, murph and mchenry) who barely ever hit the scoreboard and could barely even be considered a small forwards arseh*le.. and the kid we dumped will probably make the AA squad.. brilliant!

Some here are fine with this outcome.

Others see it as yet another example of how ****n poorly run our club is..

Clubs like West Coast, the pies, the power, geelong, the dees, the tigers would never hang one of their players out to dry like this.. they would tell any media hysteria to go **** itself.. Degoey beat the shit out a bloke and didnt even miss a game over it ffs!.. SPP sexually assaults a chick in a night club and they defended him to the point they could no longer and then gave him a couple of weeks off… take a look at the tigers and dees indiscretions in recent times.. and thats before we even discuss west coast and geelongs drug filled pasts that no skin at those clubs has ever been lost over!.

None of these indescretions are acceptable but the clubs of these players certainly didnt chose the nuclear option when dealing with them..

Not the crows though.. not the club of the appricot slice goody two shoes brigade!..

And looking at those clubs I’ve listed.. has this fobbing their noses at the media hysteria effected their “culture” and success in the recent times?..
 
???.. but our punishment wasnt to play in the sanfl for us for the year..

It was to not play for us for the year and sit out of football altogether.. then hope we may give him another chance after that..

We basically wanted him to put his entire career on hold.. left him little option but to leave.. and thats what the dumbduck stiffs at the club wanted..
Wrong again the offer was to go back to his original SANFL club WWT for the season and remain on our list...Either he or his management thought he was a monty to get picked up in the MSD....they were wrong.

Luckily for Tyson Betts took up the coaching position for the Cats and he got a lifeline..more good luck than anything else involved there.
 
End of the day..

we dumped a promising young kid who had 1 drink driving chrge and 1 possession of an illicit substance charge…

And a dubiuos photo that, in a court of law, wouldve been laughed at if presented as evidence of wrongdoing..

Now we have three small forwards (rowe, murph and mchenry) who barely ever hit the scoreboard and could barely even be considered a small forwards a-hole.. and the kid we dumped will probably make the AA squad.. brilliant!

Some here are fine with this outcome.

Others see it as yet another example of how duckn poorly run our club is..

Clubs like West Coast, the pies, the power, geelong, the dees, the tigers would never hang one of their players out to dry like this.. they would tell any media hysteria to go duck itself.. Degoey beat the shit out a bloke and didnt even miss a game over it ffs!.. SPP sexually assaults a chick in a night club and they defended him to the point they could no longer and then gave him a couple of weeks off… take a look at the tigers and dees indiscretions in recent times.. and thats before we even discuss west coast and geelongs drug filled pasts that no skin at those clubs has ever been lost over!.

None of these indescretions are acceptable but the clubs of these players certainly didnt chose the nuclear option when dealing with them..

Not the crows though.. not the club of the appricot slice goody two shoes brigade!..

And looking at those clubs I’ve listed.. has this fobbing their noses at the media hysteria effected their “culture” and success in the recent times?..
Imagine the stuff they also know that we don’t know about
 
Who was the last player to have multiple transgressions in the one year that remained on a club's list?

Blokes like De Goey got caught for shit behaviour once, so who was the last player to do it multiple times in one year and survive?

Stengle survived his first incident but couldn't survive the third, so I'm keen to know if other clubs have persisted with similar players
 
Who was the last player to have multiple transgressions in the one year that remained on a club's list?

Blokes like De Goey got caught for shit behaviour once, so who was the last player to do it multiple times in one year and survive?

Stengle survived his first incident but couldn't survive the third, so I'm keen to know if other clubs have persisted with similar players
Sydney Stack maybe?
 
Who was the last player to have multiple transgressions in the one year that remained on a club's list?

Blokes like De Goey got caught for shit behaviour once, so who was the last player to do it multiple times in one year and survive?

Stengle survived his first incident but couldn't survive the third, so I'm keen to know if other clubs have persisted with similar players
Ben cousins and basically the entire west coast midfield. They just never made it public.
 
Sydney Stack maybe?

Two Covid breaches in 2020 right?

Ben cousins and basically the entire west coast midfield. They just never made it public.

I'm sure lots of players have been retained after multiple private incidents, even at the Crows. No I mean public "scandals"
 
Would they do it today in 2022?

I think not.
Pffffft… of course they do..

Now days when the players get busted by the club/league and need to be benched due to failing a drug test (the drug tests they have to undertake randomly, and on a very regular basis as proffessional sportmen, look for signs of performance and recreation drug use in the system) its called “taking time off due to some mental health issues”…
 
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