2nds AFC 2022 SANFL Thread

[GameofSloanes]

Is this true though?

Victorian clubs seem to have no issues developing talent in the VFL, there are lots of very good mature agers taken from that league and IMO the Victorian system is far better at developing juniors than the SANFL pathway.

The "standard" of the league argument is questionable as well given that 14 of 21 VFL clubs have AFL listed players, compared to 2 of 10 in the SANFL

There is no way the SANFL is better than the VFL. Hasn't been for 30 years.

It's marginal whether it's better than the WAFL

 

[ftmch]

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Team is in.. Davis is back so that strengthens us.

Shouldve dropped Borlase.. he was so terrible on sunday it was ridiculous..

Peds named on ball...

 

[LC40]

Unfortunately they're not going to drop AFL listed players ever

Nor should they. It's a developmental league for Crows take the good with the bad.

 

[crows dude]

My TV guide has changed to queens doco on Sunday on 7. This should still be on tv isn’t it

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

My TV guide has changed to queens doco on Sunday on 7. This should still be on tv isn’t it

With Multiple channels you would assume so

 

[crows dude]

With Multiple channels you would assume so

Its updated to 7mate

 

[119others]

AFL teams in the SANFL are mostly younger players who have less experience, less disciplined, so are more likely to give away free kicks. Whether that's a lack of awareness getting tackled. Not adapting to different rule interpretations etc.

What a complete crock

 

[ltdamn]

It is commercially viable for us, the $460-$500k fee we currently pay the SANFL would cover the costs of 20 weeks of travel and that is presuming the AFL charge us for our opponents traveling.

Just some of the benefits to OUR team:

• travelling as a whole squad - makes the playing list feel more as one, less "us & them" our club has been plagued with.
• gets the youngsters into the routine of travel, preparing and playing footy at AFL venues.
• playing to the same rules (and same inconsistent interpretations) in reserves and seniors.
• being able to recruit the best available "top ups" if the AFL dont increase list sizes.
• playing against similar skilled/developing opposition.

Some of the reasons to stay in the SANFL

• the SANFL would lose any form of relevance.
• Ummmmmmmm

If you think the standard of competition in a national reserves comp would be beneficial to our players development, you're wrong. There's not enough players on each AFL list to field a competitive second team anymore like there was in the 90s.

Instead of playing against players in the 2nd best league outside the AFL, you would be playing a bunch of draftees and top-ups every week. The gulf between a national reserves comp and the AFL would not be much less than the current gap between the NEAFL (or whatever it is called) and the AFL.

Let's say the cost we pay the SANFL is $500k. For 22 weeks, that is $22,727 each week to travel or host a match. Unless the AFL subsidises this somehow, which they will not as they can't afford it and there's no demand for the content they can cash in on, that's simply not enough.

We would be paying more, and getting much less in return by way of development of our younger players. Which is the entire reason we have a team in the SANFL currently - to develop our players faster and better than we could previously.

 

[Scorpus]

If you think the standard of competition in a national reserves comp would be beneficial to our players development, you're wrong. There's not enough players on each AFL list to field a competitive second team anymore like there was in the 90s.

Instead of playing against players in the 2nd best league outside the AFL, you would be playing a bunch of draftees and top-ups every week. The gulf between a national reserves comp and the AFL would not be much less than the current gap between the NEAFL (or whatever it is called) and the AFL.

Let's say the cost we pay the SANFL is $500k. For 22 weeks, that is $22,727 each week to travel or host a match. Unless the AFL subsidises this somehow, which they will not as they can't afford it and there's no demand for the content they can cash in on, that's simply not enough.

We would be paying more, and getting much less in return by way of development of our younger players. Which is the entire reason we have a team in the SANFL currently - to develop our players faster and better than we could previously.

That's assuming sides would be draftees and top-ups which isn't the case in the VFL. The AFL reserves sides still have quite a few ex-AFL players, more than we'd ever be allowed in the SANFL system.

What you'd really be playing against are teams consisting of 10-15 AFL listed players including mature depth players (maybe more if a side has few injuries), ex-AFL reserves-listed players, reserves level players and young development players

 

[rocket18]

If you think the standard of competition in a national reserves comp would be beneficial to our players development, you're wrong. There's not enough players on each AFL list to field a competitive second team anymore like there was in the 90s.

Instead of playing against players in the 2nd best league outside the AFL, you would be playing a bunch of draftees and top-ups every week. The gulf between a national reserves comp and the AFL would not be much less than the current gap between the NEAFL (or whatever it is called) and the AFL.

Let's say the cost we pay the SANFL is $500k. For 22 weeks, that is $22,727 each week to travel or host a match. Unless the AFL subsidises this somehow, which they will not as they can't afford it and there's no demand for the content they can cash in on, that's simply not enough.

We would be paying more, and getting much less in return by way of development of our younger players. Which is the entire reason we have a team in the SANFL currently - to develop our players faster and better than we could previously.

The standard of competition doesn't seem to be hampering the development of the 14 AFL teams currently playing in their comp.

Not sure how you can conclude player development in the SANFL is better than the Vic clubs player development. Is it the success the SA clubs have enjoyed over the last decade?

Wouldn't playing against your exact equivalent of emerging talent, recovering/depth older players plus recently retired players be ideal?

As soon as we make a move to the AFL reserves competition Port will want to come to so we will only be paying for 20 weeks. $25k per week for 22 players and a couple of extra support staff would comfortably cover the costs.

And that's assuming the AFL won't pay for our travel, does anyone know what Sydney/GWS/Bris/Suns pay at the moment to play in the expanded VFL?

We should've joined this reserves comp when they all did, asleep at the wheel again.

 

[Mego Red]

There's a lot in this I disagree with.

If you think the standard of competition in a national reserves comp would be beneficial to our players development, you're wrong. There's not enough players on each AFL list to field a competitive second team anymore like there was in the 90s.

The sides will be playing ex-AFL and younger players as topups, just as we do now - but without the restrictions the SANFL puts on us.

Instead of playing against players in the 2nd best league outside the AFL, you would be playing a bunch of draftees and top-ups every week. The gulf between a national reserves comp and the AFL would not be much less than the current gap between the NEAFL (or whatever it is called) and the AFL.

The SANFL isn't the second best league anymore. The VFL/NEAFL is a lot better and we're best served being in there.

Let's say the cost we pay the SANFL is $500k. For 22 weeks, that is $22,727 each week to travel or host a match. Unless the AFL subsidises this somehow, which they will not as they can't afford it and there's no demand for the content they can cash in on, that's simply not enough.

They just signed a multi billion dollar rights extension. Money isn't the issue, and this can vastly improve their control over the top two comps.

We would be paying more, and getting much less in return by way of development of our younger players. Which is the entire reason we have a team in the SANFL currently - to develop our players faster and better than we could previously.

I think us leaving impacts the SANFL negatively, but frankly we should be doing what's best for us instead.

 

[brucetiki]

Free PT for those heading to the game today (because of the proclamation of King Charles III)

 

[1970crow]

If you think the standard of competition in a national reserves comp would be beneficial to our players development, you're wrong. There's not enough players on each AFL list to field a competitive second team anymore like there was in the 90s.

Instead of playing against players in the 2nd best league outside the AFL, you would be playing a bunch of draftees and top-ups every week. The gulf between a national reserves comp and the AFL would not be much less than the current gap between the NEAFL (or whatever it is called) and the AFL.

Let's say the cost we pay the SANFL is $500k. For 22 weeks, that is $22,727 each week to travel or host a match. Unless the AFL subsidises this somehow, which they will not as they can't afford it and there's no demand for the content they can cash in on, that's simply not enough.

We would be paying more, and getting much less in return by way of development of our younger players. Which is the entire reason we have a team in the SANFL currently - to develop our players faster and better than we could previously.

You reckon $1,000 per player isn’t enough for return airfares and 1 night accommodation in a shared room? If we were to be paying more, it won’t be a lot more. Melbourne games could even avoid the accommodation costs.

 

[Mutineer]

Sounds like there's already a good crowd at Adelaide Oval for the reserves Prelim, surely they're not all Sturt and West supporters.

 

[GrommoT]

For those in Adelaide and watching on TV, game looks like being on 7mate (C73) and 2.30pm.

Can probably use 7plus.com.au via the net and watch 7mate by fudging your location (might not even need to).

 

[Peter Doherty]

Sounds like there's already a good crowd at Adelaide Oval for the reserves Prelim, surely they're not all Sturt and West supporters.

How's Lemmey/Scully looking?

 

[Mutineer]

How's Lemmey/Scully looking?

Lemmey OK, Scully getting ragdolled too easy....if Scully makes it it will be a very slow burn, years away from it physically.

 

[Mutineer]

Surprised at the "Top Sport" odds for the game?

Maybe the bookies are awake to the SANFL umpires?

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

Firstly, I admit I was wrong. With 7-8 top ups I predicted a straight sets exit.

Our Kids have been good (Taylor, Pedlar, Nankervis, Worrell). Our more mature players have stood up (Strachan. Berg, Billy and Turner) and our top ups have been excellent.

We need Borlase, Cook, Gollant, Sholl, McAsey and Newchurch to join the party.

Ben Davis

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Ben Davis

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

169.0

3star

is a big in at this level!

 

[Mutineer]

 

[crows dude]

They are saying Pedlar is out

 

[Mutineer]

Firstly, I admit I was wrong. With 7-8 top ups I predicted a straight sets exit.

Our Kids have been good (Taylor, Pedlar, Nankervis, Worrell). Our more mature players have stood up (Strachan. Berg, Billy and Turner) and our top ups have been excellent.

We need Borlase, Cook, Gollant, Sholl, McAsey and Newchurch to join the party.

Ben Davis is a big in at this level!

Bit hard on Sholl I think, he's been pretty reasonable at this level, not amazing but certainly a contributor.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Yep.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Surprised at the "Top Sport" odds for the game?

Maybe the bookies are awake to the SANFL umpires?

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Norwood paying $3 on Sportsbet.

 

[MarcusP2]

This dude is made of Papier mache.

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