AFL 2014 Ladder Predictions

[Big Trozza]

I'm sure this has also been pointed out by many others but if Monfries kick doesn't take a wicked break against Adelaide, Adelaide win and Port Adelaide don't even play finals (in fact I think Adelaide would have made 9th/8th). The only difference between these two teams this year is one wicked bounce of the ball. This is why this is so hard to predict a simple variable around how a ball bounces can mess up the ladder for up for 5 teams.

Not to mention Ports incredibly lucky run of basically no injuries all year and always coming up against depleted sides. Everything went right for them this year. Hard to see it repeating.

 

[MrNatural]

1. Fremantle
2. Hawthorn
3. Richmond
4. Collingwood
5. Sydney
6. Carlton
7. Geelong
8. Port Adelaide
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9. Gold Coast
10. North Melbourne
11. Essendon
12. Western Bulldogs
13. Brisbane
14. Adelaide
15. GWS
16. West Coast
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda

 

[dylan93]

Would back them to finish above the Saints and Giants, but write off the Bulldogs at your peril.

Not writing them off, I reckon we'll be close!

 

[nottenthagain]

Tight top 8 I reckon

GWS, Gold Coast, Bulldogs will definately improve and North Melbourne might actually close out a few games out.... I reckon Brisbane will surprise. No idea how to rate West Coast and I hope ASADA sort Essendon out. Same 8 but I reckon Carlton will make way for North Melbourne and 4 teams will be in the mix for the 8th spot coming into the last round

 

[cotter101]

I'm surprised the majority of posters have Brisbane placed at around 16.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Not writing them off, I reckon we'll be close!

Probably, should be a fairly tight ladder from 6th or so down to 15th. GWS and St Kilda will occupy the bottom 2 for me, just a question of who'd be 16th. Perhaps Brisbane, they've lost a fair bit of depth and have a new coach, but at the same time they could surprise and be challenging for the 8. Real enigma that club, reminds me of Fremantle 8 or 9 years ago.

 

[Chrizzt]

Oohhh Hypothetical, I dare say they tried in both those games and deserved their loss. Beating Adelaide didn't make them tank the final rounds.

As opposed to your hypothetical Monfries bounce not going in?
Port finished the H&A with 12 wins, Crows with 10. Port made the finals, Crows didn't. Anything else apart from what happened is hypothetical. Crows will most likely make the 8 next year, but I'm backing Port to do it also. Saying that Port didn't deserve to make the 8 this year because we got lucky with a bounce is nonsense, as you're forgetting that we were the side that kicked 4 goals in 5 minutes to win that game, along with the other 13 goals in the game before that.
And if you're talking about lucky bounces, how about the unlucky bounce that Gray got in the first quarter that didn't go through?

 

[matty_hawk]

As opposed to your hypothetical Monfries bounce not going in?
Port finished the H&A with 12 wins, Crows with 10. Port made the finals, Crows didn't. Anything else apart from what happened is hypothetical. Crows will most likely make the 8 next year, but I'm backing Port to do it also. Saying that Port didn't deserve to make the 8 this year because we got lucky with a bounce is nonsense, as you're forgetting that we were the side that kicked 4 goals in 5 minutes to win that game, along with the other 13 goals in the game before that.
And if you're talking about lucky bounces, how about the unlucky bounce that Gray got in the first quarter that didn't go through?

Please find a quote of me discussing the "lucky bounce" and i will happily debunk the rest of your comments.....

 

[Righteo]

That was actually a different Hawthorn supporter called Jamie Hamilton, Chrizzt

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Why will Judd and Thomas get better afther injury ravaged years at their respective ages?

They wil both be better than last year I can assure you

 

[matty_hawk]

That was actually a different Hawthorn supporter called Jamie Hamilton, Chrizzt

Thanks

 

[DJMonstaaMasher]

My Ladder Prediction

1st. Fremantle - Expecting to fire this season and they will be a serious threat for the flag.

2nd. Geelong Cats - Should be another bright year for the cats, they must perform consistently or they will fall flat.

3rd. Richmond - Young players will rise and the tigers will finish 3rd. They are expecting to play finals in successive years for the first time since 1974 and 1975.

4th. Sydney Swans - Swans should fire this season along with their success in recent years, including the welcoming of Buddy Franklin.

5th. Hawthorn - Not as successful as 2013 but still a finals threat. I think the Kennett curse will haunt them again.

6th. Port Adelaide - I'm expecting Port to repeat their 2013 success with another finals campaign.

7th. North Melbourne - Will improve this season and they are a finals contender. Nick Dal Santo should lift their midfield.

8th. Western Bulldogs - I see a finals campaign for the bulldogs. Their future is bright and they will be hard to beat in 2015.

9th. Carlton - I think they will fall agonizingly short in 2014, the welcoming of Dale Thomas will be helpful for the Blues. They will play finals in 2015.

10th. Collingwood - Their golden era is over, won't be surprised if they miss the finals for the first time since 2005. Most of their premiership stars are long gone.

11th. Gold Coast Suns - Will be even better in 2014 but will fall short by a few games. Their future is bright and will play finals in 2015.

12th. Adelaide Crows - They have to improve but I won't think it would be their breakthrough year in 2014.

13th. Essendon - Will fall flat in the second half of the year, unless they get their heads into gear. Bomber Thompson won't do any good.

14th. GWS Giants - Expecting a decent improvement from the giants. Should rack up at least 6 wins.

15th. Brisbane Lions - It's doubtful that they will have much success next season. New Justin Leppitsch won't guide the Lions to victory in the next two years.

16th. West Coast Eagles - Signs are pointing that the Eagles will struggle this season. I doubt that the Eagles will come close.

17th. Melbourne - Expecting to rack up a few more wins this season. With Paul Roos in charge, things can improve in the future.

18th. St Kilda - A dark year for the saints and there is more pain to come. Scotty Watters needs to lift up his game or he's toast.

 

[Hotcox]

Ladder after round 23 2014

1) Carlton - We will be the big improvers in 2014 with the best midfield in the business.
2) Fremantle
3) Sydney
4) North Melbourne
5) Hawthorn
6) Richmond
7) Geelong
8) Adelaide
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9) Gold Coast
10) Western Bulldogs
11) West Coast
12) Port Adelaide
13) Collingwood
14) Essendon
15) GWS
16) Melbourne
17) Brisbane
18) St Kilda

 

[Hotcox]

Roughly without considering drafts/pre season off the top of my head:

1. Hawthorn
2. West Coast
3. Collingwood
4. Freo
5. Essendon
6. North
7. Sydney
8. Geelong
9. Adelaide
10. Richmond
11. Port
12. Gold Coast
13. Bulldogs
14. Brisbane
15. Carlton
16. St Kilda
17. Melbourne
18. GWS

Collingwood will not finish top 4 in 2014. Swan will be 30 and not as prominent as in 2013.

 

[cotter101]

1. Brisbane

Am I doing it right?

 

[Chrizzt]

That was actually a different Hawthorn supporter called Jamie Hamilton, Chrizzt

Hawkward.

 

[matty_hawk]

Hawkward.

Dw, we all look alike!

 

[God Save Max King]

Too many people underrating GWS. Will do some really nice things in the coming year.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Too many people underrating GWS. Will do some really nice things in the coming year.

Won't win more than 5 games

 

[Holy Rioli]

As opposed to your hypothetical Monfries bounce not going in?
Port finished the H&A with 12 wins, Crows with 10. Port made the finals, Crows didn't. Anything else apart from what happened is hypothetical. Crows will most likely make the 8 next year, but I'm backing Port to do it also. Saying that Port didn't deserve to make the 8 this year because we got lucky with a bounce is nonsense, as you're forgetting that we were the side that kicked 4 goals in 5 minutes to win that game, along with the other 13 goals in the game before that.
And if you're talking about lucky bounces, how about the unlucky bounce that Gray got in the first quarter that didn't go through?

I know when I brought this up I didn't say Port were lucky, I said Port Adelaide would have been replaced by Adelaide in the finals had that wicked bounce not happened with regards to the Gus goal. The point I was trying to highlight was that picking the ladder is so hard because a simple bounce of the ball can change everything.

 

[Spoken4]

Ladder after round 23 2014

1) Carlton - We will be the big improvers in 2014 with the best midfield in the business.

Surely you jest? Your midfield is bottom 10 material - old and slow.

Certainly no match for the quality midfields of Fremantle, Hawthorn, Collingwood, Sydney or Geelong.

 

[Kimbo]

Geez, I reckon this year in that thread that rates average rankings overall and by own supporters will show opposition supporters rating North higher than our own supporters.

Of course, it won't stop BF sinking in the boots to North supporters if we fail to live up to the expectations of others.

 

[The Dice Man]

They wil both be better than last year I can assure you

Forgive me if I don't rush out and put the house on either having an injury free year, despite your assurances.

Unless of course you're willing to throw in a BJ too?

 

[The Dice Man]

As i stated earlier, how will we not make the eight in 2014

two games against GWS, St.kilda, port, norf and pies.
No double up games against top 4 sides
away game against norf in hobart, not etihad
Most of our home games are against higher ranked teams
and away games against lower ranked teams

#top 4

You're right. Absolutely nothing stopping you from top 4, top 2 even. I'd put your house on it.

 

[jangofett]

You're right. Absolutely nothing stopping you from top 4, top 2 even. I'd put your house on it.

It only takes 12 wins to get into the 8

We already have 4 wins (GWS and st.kilda twice)