Autopsy AFL 2019 Round 20: Adelaide Crows v St Kilda, 19:10 ACST AO

[Chief]

Adelaide Crows v St Kilda
Round 20 - 19:10 ACST, Aug 03, 2019




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The Crows need to fight through every contest for a finals spot

Where and when: Adelaide Oval, Saturday, August 3, 7.10pm ACST
TV and radio: Click here for broadcast guide
What it means for Adelaide: This is a must-win game for the under-siege Crows who have lost four of their past five, but still remain in the top eight on percentage.
What it means for St Kilda: The Saints are revitalised under interim coach Brett Ratten, winning their past two games since parting ways with Alan Richardson. Another victory would keep their unlikely finals dream alive.

The stat: The Crows have won nine in a row against the Saints since 2012, with an average margin of 53 points. Seven of those nine victories were by 40 or more points. The Saints have an abysmal Adelaide Oval record, losing all nine times they've played at the venue.
The match-up: Daniel Talia v Josh Bruce
Talia, the Crows' best key defender in the Official AFL Player Ratings(158th overall), will get the job on Bruce, the Saints' No.1 key forward (351st overall) who booted four goals in last week's win against Melbourne.



It’s a big week for: Don Pyke
The Crows coach has been under the pump in the wake of last weekend's loss to Carlton. After inviting the players over to his house, Pyke needs his team to stand up and produce a performance they're capable of to get their season back on track.

Big call: The Saints beat the Crows for the first time in eight years to throw the race for eighth spot wide open.
Prediction: Saints by eight points

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Injuries

Adelaide

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
Tom Doedee	Knee	Season
Cam Ellis-Yolmen	Shin	2 weeks
Paul Hunter	Foot	6 weeks
Alex Keath	Ankle	1 week
Ned McHenry	Back	2-4 weeks
Andrew McPherson	Hamstring	4-5 weeks
Reilly O'Brien	Concussion	Test

St Kilda

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
Blake Acres	Shoulder	Test
David Armitage	Personal	Indefinite
Logan Austin	Shoulder	Indefinite
Jack Bytel	Back	Season
Jarryn Geary	Leg	3-5 weeks
Dan Hannebery	Illness	1 week
Dean Kent	Quad	Season
Max King	Ankle	Season
Billy Longer	Concussion	Season
Paddy McCartin	Concussion	Season
Lewis Pierce	Concussion	Indefinite
Dylan Roberton	Heart	Season

ADELAIDE CROWS
B: Jake Kelly, Daniel Talia, Luke Brown
HB: David Mackay, Kyle Hartigan, Rory Laird
C: Rory Sloane, Brad Crouch, Rory Atkins
HF: Richard Douglas, Tom Lynch, Riley Knight
F: Lachlan Murphy, Taylor Walker, Eddie Betts
FOL: Reilly O'Brien, Matt Crouch, Bryce Gibbs
I/C: Andy Otten, Wayne Milera, Darcy Fogarty, Brodie Smith
EMG: Hugh Greenwood, Paul Seedsman, Tyson Stengle, Sam Jacobs
IN: Richard Douglas, Eddie Betts, Bryce Gibbs, Darcy Fogarty
OUT: Josh Jenkins (Omitted), Tyson Stengle (Omitted), Patrick Wilson (Omitted), Paul Seedsman (Omitted)

ST KILDA
B: Shane Savage, Nathan Brown, Ben Paton
HB: Callum Wilkie, Jake Carlisle, Hunter Clark
C: Jack Billings, Sebastian Ross, Doulton Langlands
HF: Nick Hind, Josh Bruce, Jack Steele
F: Jack Lonie, Tim Membrey, Josh Battle
FOL: Rowan Marshall, Luke Dunstan, Jade Gresham
I/C: Nick Coffield, Jack Newnes, Ben Long, Jack Sinclair
EMG: Matthew Parker, Daniel McKenzie, Darragh Joyce, Jonathon Marsh
IN: Josh Battle
OUT: Blake Acres (Injured)
MILESTONES: Luke Dunstan - Playing 100th game

 

[Chief]

Die voorskou is hier!

 

[TheShardMan]

Die voorskou is hier!

So ń bek moet jem kry

If Saints win are they still asking for a priority pick? Lol.

 

[LeGresham]

So ń bek moet jem kry

If Saints win are they still asking for a priority pick? Lol.

Yes. The pick is not based on ladder position it is based on new rules the afl created so that teams who lose players to injury can apply.
In the last 12 months the saints have lost or look like losing kobe Stevens, paddy mccartin , dylan roberton, billy longer and Lewis Pearce to either long term concussion injuries or in robbos case heart issues.
Many or all of them may never play again

 

[TheShardMan]

Yes. The pick is not based on ladder position it is based on new rules the afl created so that teams who lose players to injury can apply.
In the last 12 months the saints have lost or look like losing kobe Stevens, paddy mccartin , dylan roberton, billy longer and Lewis Pearce to either long term concussion injuries or in robbos case heart issues.
Many or all of them may never play again

Surely it wouldn't be a 1st rounder. Other clubs would revolt. From that list you could argue that only roberton was a walk up best 22. Paddy although he was a no 1 pick hadn't cemented a spot. And the rest really are no more than depth.

Could only see the league giving a late 2nd or maybe priority state league access. Even then it'll be hotly disputed.

 

[marcus1232]

I wouldn’t think it would be a first rounder in the highly unlikely chance we do get one.
To be honest the only reason we would ask is because the basket case near the beach wants one

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Surely it wouldn't be a 1st rounder. Other clubs would revolt. From that list you could argue that only roberton was a walk up best 22. Paddy although he was a no 1 pick hadn't cemented a spot. And the rest really are no more than depth.

Could only see the league giving a late 2nd or maybe priority state league access. Even then it'll be hotly disputed.

My guess would be a end of first rounder if it happens.

If we keep winning though doubt we will get it and I would rather keep winning.

 

[TheShardMan]

My guess would be a end of first rounder if it happens.

If we keep winning though doubt we will get it and I would rather keep winning.

Seems like the club has already made up its mind not to ask. Been quiet recently especially as ur now on 8 wins.

Also, i read robertons interview couple of weeks ago and it seems like he'll be back playing. Mccartin also hasnt given up. If either one of them plays on I guess that puts an end to it.

 

[Rotayjay]

The Saints can beat us for all I care. The message (that wholesale changes are needed) needs to be driven home further.

 

[LeGresham]

Surely it wouldn't be a 1st rounder. Other clubs would revolt. From that list you could argue that only roberton was a walk up best 22. Paddy although he was a no 1 pick hadn't cemented a spot. And the rest really are no more than depth.

Could only see the league giving a late 2nd or maybe priority state league access. Even then it'll be hotly disputed.

Entering this season billy longer and Lewis Pearce were fighting for the number 1 ruck spot. Thank God for Rohan Marshall.
Kobe Stevens was a regular in the seniors until his concussion
Dylan Roberton was just about st kildas best player before the heart issues.
Paddy mccartin had never spent long in the seniors because of the frequent concussions. He finally had his body looking right and was expected to play seniors whenever fit this season

 

[Mat Mann]

I think we're a solid 50/50 in this one, Ratten is moving personnel around a bit during games which is nice for a change and we have a far more attacking edge the last few weeks.

Cant travel except to the GC and lately need a +50pt head start when we go to Adelaide.
Looking forward to it regardless, who ever loses should consider season over.

 

[joop]

So ń bek moet jem kry

If Saints win are they still asking for a priority pick? Lol.

How many threads will you comment about this and still not get it?? Its not about wins and losses, its about losing personal due to injuries which is clearly outlined in the rules of priority picks if you want to actually read it..?

 

[Red Bull]

Yes. The pick is not based on ladder position it is based on new rules the afl created so that teams who lose players to injury can apply.
In the last 12 months the saints have lost or look like losing kobe Stevens, paddy mccartin , dylan roberton, billy longer and Lewis Pearce to either long term concussion injuries or in robbos case heart issues.
Many or all of them may never play again

The saints are cursed ...

 

[Atomboy]

Prefer we shed the victim mentality and crack on without one.

The club has done exceptionally well despite these issues, let’s just keep that momentum going.

 

[PerthBoy86]

I think the Saints are a sneaky chance for the upset here. I put $50 on them, so hoping for it. I like the Crows but I think if they miss the finals they'll be more serious about cleaning out the club.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Can't see the Crows dropping this one. They'll be fired up after last week and bringing in a gun like Betts (and hopefully the superstar GIBBS), they'll destroy the Saints.

Will be a good side battle watching the 2 rising gun ruckmen in ROB and Marshall going head to head all day.

 

[Chief]

ADELAIDE CROWS
B: Jake Kelly, Daniel Talia, Luke Brown
HB: David Mackay, Kyle Hartigan, Rory Laird
C: Rory Sloane, Brad Crouch, Rory Atkins
HF: Richard Douglas, Tom Lynch, Riley Knight
F: Lachlan Murphy, Taylor Walker, Eddie Betts
FOL: Reilly O'Brien, Matt Crouch, Bryce Gibbs
I/C: Andy Otten, Wayne Milera, Darcy Fogarty, Brodie Smith
EMG: Hugh Greenwood, Paul Seedsman, Tyson Stengle, Sam Jacobs
IN: Richard Douglas, Eddie Betts, Bryce Gibbs, Darcy Fogarty
OUT: Josh Jenkins (Omitted), Tyson Stengle (Omitted), Patrick Wilson (Omitted), Paul Seedsman (Omitted)

ST KILDA
B: Shane Savage, Nathan Brown, Ben Paton
HB: Callum Wilkie, Jake Carlisle, Hunter Clark
C: Jack Billings, Sebastian Ross, Doulton Langlands
HF: Nick Hind, Josh Bruce, Jack Steele
F: Jack Lonie, Tim Membrey, Josh Battle
FOL: Rowan Marshall, Luke Dunstan, Jade Gresham
I/C: Nick Coffield, Jack Newnes, Ben Long, Jack Sinclair
EMG: Matthew Parker, Daniel McKenzie, Darragh Joyce, Jonathon Marsh
IN: Josh Battle
OUT: Blake Acres (Injured)
MILESTONES: Luke Dunstan - Playing 100th game

 

[joop]

Geeze they look slow on paper.

 

[TheEnsign]

Genuine question for Crows supporters - why on earth was Jenkins dropped? He averages 2.5 goals/game against us; and nothwithstanding a poor game against Carlton his form the two weeks before that was good. I just don't understand it.

 

[Xtreme]

Adelaide should win at home

But the Saints will be breathing fire

 

[PCORF]

Adelaide should win at home

They have a terrible home record in 2019.

 

[Xtreme]

They have a terrible home record in 2019.

Well st kikda stuffed up my tipping the last game you guys played. So maybe its Adelaides turn this time!

 

[PerthBoy86]

Adelaide seem like a team with no fight. They had a lot to lose position wise against Carlton, and were in it, but almost looked like giving up. I wonder what else they can bring against the Saints, who are still theoretically in the race.

 

[TheShardMan]

If crows don't win then pyke must go. Unacceptable to lose at home with a full list to choose from.

 

[Alwaysacrow]

Genuine question for Crows supporters - why on earth was Jenkins dropped? He averages 2.5 goals/game against us; and nothwithstanding a poor game against Carlton his form the two weeks before that was good. I just don't understand it.

A very strange selection indeed. Although I'm glad to see Fogarty get a game if the club wanted to send a message to the playing group they should've dropped Tex.