Autopsy AFL 2024 Second Semi Final - Port v Hawks Fri Sept 13th 7:40pm EST/7:10pm CST (AO) Teams in OP

[Dudoro]

And missed finals this year. Their list as it stands is simply not as good.

Swans finished 8th last year and are on fire this year. A lot changes in a short amount of time.

Look at how quickly Hawthorn jumped up.

They’ll finish higher than Hawks haha

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Flogs in this thread hating on Sicily when it was actually Ken doing the lipping

Hinkley mouthing off after scraping in by the skin of his teeth against a young undersized team on his home deck after getting absolutely pantsed last week is hilarious. Everyone knows Ginnivan is a flog, Hinkley is double (almost triple?) his age and thinks it's a good idea to start gobbing off in front of the cameras? Probably needs to focus on limiting the damage next Friday because he will probably be on the unemployment line by Saturday.

 

[joe444]

I do suppose that if your team is going to run around taking fake selfies in front of the opposition cheer squads (unprecedented), they are going to have a crack back at you. It does add to the sense that Kenny has issues with emotional stability and cool-headed decision making.

And now it adds to the sense that Hawthorn can give it out but can't take it. And it will most definitely turn against them; there's every possibility they'll slide back into mediocrity next year like many 'surge finalists' do. Not sure how the posing looks then.


My problem, however, is that it occurred as the teams were lining up to acknowledge a senior and classy veteran of the game.

 

[madmug]

People are losing their minds over a bit of banter

The Hawthorn coach you mean. What a pathetic presser. Wall to wall tissues.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Craig McRae would be laughing at Ginni and all his antics. Fully vindicated getting rid of him

And this is only the stuff you do hear and see.

 

[OneGreatClub]

He did what you'd expect any captain to do in that situation and defended his young player you turnip.

Ken shouldn’t have said what he said, however, imagine Boak in that situation, or most other captains present or past.
They would have separated them, not escalated, just like Impey did.
That is leadership.
Sicily looked like he was about to punch a coach.
The problem is the cocky Hawks have had smoke blown up their arses for too many weeks, seemed from some decisions to have the umps in their corner all game and just couldn’t take the heat.
It’s called sore losers.
Sicily and Mitchell were cry babies post game.
Not a good look. Hopefully Ginnvan matures from this and Mitchell and Sicily have some self reflection as Ken has.

 

[Xtreme]

The Hawthorn coach you mean. What a pathetic presser. Wall to wall tissues.

oh no I'm referring to Ken's little girly outburst

 

[OneGreatClub]

Hinkley mouthing off after scraping in by the skin of his teeth against a young undersized team on his home deck after getting absolutely pantsed last week is hilarious. Everyone knows Ginnivan is a flog, Hinkley is double (almost triple?) his age and thinks it's a good idea to start gobbing off in front of the cameras? Probably needs to focus on limiting the damage next Friday because he will probably be on the unemployment line by Saturday.

Awwww

 

[Bunk Moreland]

What's your point? He said a very young player and not a kid.

What on earth does age have to do with it? They’re all adults

Ginnivan is 21yo ffs, he’s not a child (even if he has the maturity of one)

Laughable spin from Mitchell to try to justify having a sook.

Not that Ginnivan himself even seems to have sooked it up - it’s Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and the unsociable Hawks who seem to be so offended. Suck it up fellas, it’s some simple and harmless banter between opponents.

 

[madmug]

oh no I'm referring to Ken's little girly outburst

Replying to it in such a sooky way at the presser just handed the mental win to PA.

 

[rapidfire7]

Exactly and what a baby was Mitchell saying he wouldn’t take a call from Ken to smooth things over. Absolute petulance.

Sam is a sook, but in fairness to him, it was a dumb question to ask at that moment with emotions flying wild. I'm sure he will once the dust settles.

 

[peternorth]

If the cameras weren't in front of scicily, perhaps this isn't magnified. As captain you are duty bound to lead. That the camera was there, and Scic looked straight into it, meant he had to act.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

What on earth does age have to do with it? They’re all adults

Ginnivan is 21yo ffs, he’s not a child (even if he has the maturity of one)

Laughable spin from Mitchell to try to justify having a sook.

Not that Ginnivan himself even seems to have sooked it up - it’s Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and the unsociable Hawks who seem to be so offended. Suck it up fellas, it’s some simple and harmless banter between opponents.

Weddle's younger than Ginnivan and Mitchell had no problem publicly ripping shreds off him for dropping a mark in a game. Massive overreach for him with the "Older man acting very aggressively towards a younger man" stuff, once he broke out of his catatonic state in the press conference.

Just say you were proud of your captain for leading from the front after the game and you're not taking any more questions about it.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Sam is a sook, but in fairness to him, it was a dumb question to ask at that moment with emotions flying wild. I'm sure he will once the dust settles.

Who will win out of this the most are the vultures in the media cycle anyway. They call it a big story lol.
Always scratching for dirt and pickings.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Weddle's younger than Ginnivan and Mitchell had no problem publicly ripping shreds off him for dropping a mark in a game. Massive overreach for him with the "Older man acting very aggressively towards a younger man" stuff, once he broke out of his catatonic state in the press conference.

Just say you were proud of your captain for leading from the front after the game and you're not taking any more questions about it.

Yes. I think a lot would have had more respect for him if he did that.

 

[Pistol Night]

Exactly and what a baby was Mitchell saying he wouldn’t take a call from Ken to smooth things over. Absolute petulance.

Mitchell forgetting what an antagonistic little flog he was?

 

[peternorth]

Exactly and what a baby was Mitchell saying he wouldn’t take a call from Ken to smooth things over. Absolute petulance.

wonder what ken and mitchell were saying to each other as they shook hands on the boundary line. ken was performing a hands down motion IIRC

 

[Tas]

You give a shit alright . . . your elected government paid a gazzilion dollars to lock the GF to Victoria until all current people living in the world are dead. . . .and they did it because you give a shit.

lol that was a deal between the VFL and the MCC, it cost a lot of money to redevelop the MCG and the Federal government didn't pay a dime so the project had to be largely self-funded and to be able to achieve that, big brained people projected how much access to sports like football and cricket they would need access to in order to recoup what it cost to build those stadium improvements.

It was a decision based on financial requirements to get the funding. That deal has been adjusted numerous times with the approval of ALL of the interstate clubs and they agreed to extend the deal long after the initial 50 year period so interstate teams could have greater access to finals, games that otherwise would have had to be played at the MCG. There was a binding contract and the MCC didn't have to adjust the deal but it made it a lot fairer that they did. All interstate clubs were either a party to this deal or knew that this agreement was in place before they joined the AFL.

Time and again, the interstate clubs have agreed to things that aren't in the best interest of the fans in other states but are in the best interest of maintaining the status quo, to the WAFL and SANFL, the AFL is primarily an investment that helps to fund their state competition. Back when Port was in a financial shithole, the AFL offered to purchases the licenses back off for the SA and WA clubs and hand them to the clubs, giving them true independence. Both the SANFL and WAFL or their controlling bodies refused to return the licenses to the members of these clubs so you need to get off your moral high horse. You are just a commodity to those who own your clubs, they don't give a shit about you or your pissant anti Victorian bias.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Mitchell was nearly in tears in his presser.

 

[hawkman]

Sicily probably only reacted the way did because he was still filthy about missing that absolutely gimme that would have won the game.

50 out on a 40° angle is now a gimme?

 

[OneGreatClub]

wonder what ken and mitchell were saying to each other as they shook hands on the boundary line. ken was performing a hands down motion IIRC

Dunno but even though we look forward to Ken leaving Port he is usually effusive to oppo teams before and after wins and losses, always gives them credit, which infuriates us at times.
I think Mitchell wanted to cry because he lost. Maybe he will mature as a coach out of this, the almost crying in the presser didn’t look good.

 

[Hippster]

People are losing their minds over a bit of banter

Agreed. All he said was you aren’t f’n flying anywhere. Big deal. Let’s move on.

 

[Pistol Night]

Agreed. All he said was you aren’t f’n flying anywhere. Big deal. Let’s move on.

Ginni should just fly up to Sydney next week to watch the game and tell Ken "told ya so"

 

[StillAtLarge]

Against the $1.62 favourites

Only a Port supporter could wear an underdog status in a home final (after finishing top 4) as a badge of honour

 

[madmug]

oh no I'm referring to Ken's little girly outburst

Oh! the one where the Hawthorn captain ignored his retiring player so he could have a sook at the oppo coach? That one