MRP / Trib. AFL 2nd Semi Final findings - Paul Chapman accepts one-week ban for bump on Robbie Gray

[Xtreme]

Evans just helping out his old Hawthorn mates ahead of Friday.

I think you have 21 other players that can easily keep the streak alive. Chapman is good, but he's not the heart and soul of the team.

 

[realhawk]

Maybe - but Franklin's hit had greater injury impact... Face it the MRP loves to f*** Geelong over.

True the cats do cop it rough from the match review panel and the swans are hit with the feather duster, but on the flip side you blokes do get it easy out on the park , especially when Shane McInerney and Steve Mcburnie are out there and that is a fact.

 

[Seeds]

How the **** was Buddy's hit negligent and Chappy's reckless. More ******* bullshit from the MRP.

This. Either they are both suspended or both playing. The fact one gets reckless and one negligent is an utter disgrace. If Chapmans out Franklin should not be playing full stop.

 

[Nicko29]

Chapman left the ground, franklin didnt.

Chapman's affected play, Buddy's was well after the ball left the area...

 

[romeoh]

True the cats do cop it rough from the match review panel and the swans are hit with the feather duster, but on the flip side you blokes do get it easy out on the park , especially when Shane McInerney and Steve Mcburnie are out there and that is a fact.

Give it a spell.
But gee I hope they are the umps on Friday night if that is the case-and does this mean you are lining up your excuses already?

 

[Seeds]

Agree completely. Farcical ruling and Buddy and Chappy can feel very aggrieved. Amazing though that 3 very experienced players went the bump with finals on the line, when will they learn?

Buddy has got nothing to be aggrieved about. His was graded negligent. He should not be playing this week. Disgrace he is playing.

 

[Nicko29]

Serious question - worth challenging? Chappy easily best player last game - could argue won't be another game to worry about without him helping try and win this one...

Nah because all we would be trying to do is reduce the charge from reckless to negligent which means Chappy will still cop a week as he won't get the bullshit -25% early plea ruling

 

[Seeds]

So the only determinant of 'reckless' is if you 'leave the ground' or not? Try harder **** heads. I think you will find most players feet 'leave the ground' when they run. Or do they get the digital ruler out and anything above 30cm is considered reckless. Fair dinkum what a joke.

What has feet leaving the ground got to do with a bump with shoulders. I've never figured this one out.

 

[AlterRob]

Just for the consistency (or lack of) argument, Zac Dawson seemed to be pretty far off the ground in week 1 of the finals. Not looked at

Nope, Zachary's feet were firmly planted on the ground.

 

[Hoffy95]

Chapman left the ground, franklin didnt.

Malceski left the ground, Gray didn't.

 

[Roadie]

I am shocked. SHOCKED.

Not really, we all saw it coming.

 

[Sttew]

I am so dejected by this. The MRP's track record in finding Geelong players guilty of rough conduct charges is 100% this year. Its easy to say our guys should have known better, but when there is SFA consistency in decisions handed down across the 18 clubs , when a Sydney Swan gets off today for a bump that looked worse, when Robby Gray was not injured by Chappy, when a free kick was awarded against Chappy (the right penalty IMO), when Geelong players have not been given the slightest benefit of the doubt in 2013, you just lose faith in the system.

 

[Sttew]

True the cats do cop it rough from the match review panel and the swans are hit with the feather duster, but on the flip side you blokes do get it easy out on the park , especially when Shane McInerney and Steve Mcburnie are out there and that is a fact.

Was it not McInerney who awarded Schulz a free in front of goal when Rivers fell across him after having his legs taken out by Schulz? A major potential momentum swinging moment

 

[Seeds]

How can Richards possibly be high contact yet still negligent given the player he hit didn't have the ball? Choosing to bump a player not carrying the ball when they're not looking cannot possibly be negligent. The only way Richards could surely have got less than the same grading as Chapman is if they threw it out completely saying it was below the force required to constitute a report.

Surely Geelong have to make some enquiries in the off season lining up all the comparable incidents our players have been suspended for that others have been let off for.

Now I know our players shouldn't be putting themselves in these positions for a start, but when you see others do the same, if not worse, and get nothing, there's something terribly wrong with the system.

This isn't hard to figure out. Two of the MRp are hawthorn members. It has been like this all year. We all know they are biased. Will someone just come out and publically state it.

 

[CatTricks]

Time to challenge and if it fails take them to court over this.
Im no lawyer, but maybe a court of law will allow precedence..

 

[topic97]

In all I reckon none of the bumps should have resulted in suspensions. Nothing more than a free kick, but I guess those days are gone.

However, I thought that Richards was the worst of the bunch and he's free to play. AFL Swans strike it lucky again.

I hate to agree with a Hawks supporter, but you're right.
None of the bumps should have gone, Buddy included!!

And when you have things earlier on in the year like Hodge's bump on the Carlton player that fractured his jaw getting let off, it really makes you wonder what the hell is going on in the MRP.

I wouldnt mind if Chappy got a week, as it kind of brings it in line with the Buddy one, but then to let Richards off in the same week for something that is a carbon copy - it just defies logic & belief.

BE BLOODY CONSISTENT YOU PACK OF MRP DICKHEADS!!!!

 

[catempire]

Chapman left the ground, franklin didnt.

In circumstances where one bump results in "low" contact and another "medium", of what practical consequence is the question of whether a player leaves the ground or not?

 

[kickazz]

Leaving the ground or not is irrelevant. It is something the media make up. e.g. Zac Dawson in the QF.

 

[dazbroncos]

How can Richards possibly be high contact yet still negligent given the player he hit didn't have the ball? Choosing to bump a player not carrying the ball when they're not looking cannot possibly be negligent. The only way Richards could surely have got less than the same grading as Chapman is if they threw it out completely saying it was below the force required to constitute a report.

Surely Geelong have to make some enquiries in the off season lining up all the comparable incidents our players have been suspended for that others have been let off for.

Now I know our players shouldn't be putting themselves in these positions for a start, but when you see others do the same, if not worse, and get nothing, there's something terribly wrong with the system.

Because the copulating female anatomical parts do whatever they want with no regard for the consistency of the game or the image of the game. There is no consistency at all. Fully dependant on who is fronting each week.

Sad but true

Go Catters

 

[rooie]

im happy for chappy to cop a week, but only if richards does too. to assess them differently is a joke.

 

[Scissor4life]

Evans just helping out his old Hawthorn mates ahead of Friday.

seriously!!! has nothing to do with Evans...the MRP has been broken for a long time...hopefully Evans can fix it or at least get some kind of consistency in its decisions next year.

I actually would prefer Chappy in the team as I think Port didn't get the match up right giving him free reign

i bet he challenges and gets off

 

[Sttew]

Time to challenge and if it fails take them to court over this.
Im no lawyer, but maybe a court of law will allow precedence..

As I see it, we have no choice. No disrespect to Murdoch and Caddy, but they are not going to kick 4 goals like Chappy.

"Reckless" is about one wrung under intentional. The dictionary definition is
reck·less
adjective
1.
utterly unconcerned about the consequences of some action; without caution; careless (usually followed by of ): to be reckless of danger.
2.
characterized by or proceeding from such carelessness: reckless extravagance.

Why the MRP has become fixated with feet on the ground as being the definer of negligent v reckless defies logic. This, alone , has to be challenged. I'd have thought a bump well after a player has disposed of the ball, as opposed to a split second afterwards is more reckless. Also, Chappy ran into tackle Gray, so naturally his feet were going to be off the ground. Its not like he's taken a massive jump to affect the hip and shoulder.

 

[catempire]

seriously!!! has nothing to do with Evans...the MRP has been broken for a long time...hopefully Evans can fix it or at least get some kind of consistency in its decisions next year.

Seriously, there is a lot riding on Evans to fix it. It is a complete shambles at the moment. If we get the same again next year Evans has a lot to answer for.

 

[cats_09]

Say the club & Chappy take the early guilty plea and he misses the week, could the club apply for special exemption for whichever player takes his spot on Friday night - fan expectation is Murdoch to replace him - to also be able to suit up on Sunday for the VFL grand final? Just thinking because if we do win on Friday night, in all likelihood, the player who replaces Chappy this week would be dropped before the AFL grand final and therefore miss out on the chance to play in either the AFL or VFL grand final.

I know the AFL grand final & premiership is the ultimate goal, but for some of our youngsters the opportunity to go back-to-back in the VFL would seem pretty special also, and unless the club is able to successful contest the charge, one of our youngsters is going to miss out on that opportunity.

 

[ninjacat]

Making us angry by dealing with our player unfairly, I hope the players fire up and deliver the punishment the Hawks deserve.