AFL Canberra

[electric feel]

im not having a go at queanbeyan for paoching players as it takes two to tango.

both the dickinson boys are from the tugg bulldogs. several other queanbeyan boys such as iriwn and p.cambell are also tugg boys. simpson and tutt from tugg went to aisnlie a couple of years ago. gumly was at WC before going to eastlake. thats all i can think of.

the problem with the whole marist easklate thing is that tugg lion/bulldogs/wc attend marist as a school and when the time comes for marist to put in a team the students must play for the age group/team/sport that they currently are playing in. then of course they all head off to eastlake. There are several players such and williams haywood and dean who are in the same boat but on the WC side of things.

Would there be family ties for any of these players, or just poached? If you made a list of all the tuggeranong/weston creek juniors playing somewhere else now (including marist> eastlake) would both these clubs be in much better positions now? IMO yes.

 

[dj ando]

Cheers DJA but those days are long gone, besides I live in Nicholls (Sth Yass) and work for a grog company so I have those basis covered. Not looking to play......at this stage

how old are you? and when did you last play

 

[chaddles]

how old are you? and when did you last play

He's old enough to remember the first time Lake Burley Griffin was filled with water.....

 

[A Bit High]

He's old enough to remember the first time Lake Burley Griffin was filled with water.....

Not bad Chaddles, close but not quite.

38 YO. Last played 1st Grade in 2004 GF. Played the next 3 years in Magoos and retired after the 2007 Premiershipbut filled in when the boys were short this year on 3 occasions to answer DJA questions.

Hope Im not big noting wonky

 

[Growling Ferret]

Aren't the Woden Blues Marist old boys?

Youdogs

That's what the Woden Blues were formed as, but over the years the connection faded. There has been some contact with Marist this year in trying to regain the link, but its difficult when Eastlake are a sponsor of the club and all other overtures are rejected. I had heard some talk about Marist creating a ressies team to fill the 6th spot, but this was months ago.

Talking about low acts, this is aimed at the 4 AFL Canberra clubs with poker machine backing. At the start of 08, all 4 clubs agreed to cough up $15k each, matched with 60k of Swans money to fund two Junior Development Officers in Gungahlin and Tuggeranong. As of now, NONE of the 4 clubs have actually coughed up any money, and are looking for excuses to get out of paying it.

For the sake of AFL in Canberra, 15k is a relatively small amount per club. If the Swans ever did bail out, how the hell would AFL Canberra survive again with three rich clubs in Ainslie, Eastlake and Belconnen, the Tigers and the perennial battlers in Tuggeranong.

Its time for some footy ops members from the Big 4 to pull their heads out of the arses and look to improve football in Canberra, not just look after their own patch - otherwise they may not have a patch to look after in 5 years time.

 

[Growling Ferret]

There seems to be a few on here who know the identity of others on this thread....

I know who ABH is, but he would not know me - although he hosted me at Manuka a couple of years ago at an AFL luncheon.

Anyone who knows CD football knows who I am. Ports, Boof all know - and Rusty knew who I was.

The Belco boys know who I am - and I know who they are. Playing Rec Footy again this year?

I just wonder who Rusty posts as

 

[southcab]

GF, Well said on the big four rich clubs could'nt agree more cant believe for that miserable amount you mention, some of them would jepordise the comp .Specially when we see clubs donate 20 k to charity from what was ment to be gate takings.
Dont get me wrong i am respectfull of the charitable donation and i know they need it however if we dont have a comp in the future there will be no gate takings and no more donations..

On the subject of rusty i have asked him several times who he posts as and he keeps telling me he does not post he only reads.

 

[wonky]

GF, Well said on the big four rich clubs could'nt agree more cant believe for that miserable amount you mention, some of them would jepordise the comp .Specially when we see clubs donate 20 k to charity from what was ment to be gate takings.
Dont get me wrong i am respectfull of the charitable donation and i know they need it however if we dont have a comp in the future there will be no gate takings and no more donations..

On the subject of rusty i have asked him several times who he posts as and he keeps telling me he does not post he only reads.

you guys seem to have forgotten about the $200k a year that the labour club is supplying to the AFL Canberra. that money was due to start flowing to tuggeranong (after the debt from wildcats was repaid) so shouldn;t a portion of that money go to JD in the valley?

The big 4 as you call them also have JD of their own to consider. all 4 clubs have had to invest considerably in their own JD due to the sh1t JD done by the league over the years and now they want Queanbeyan, eastlake, Ainslie Belconnen to fund other clubs areas? its a bit rich.

this reminds me of the kerry packer quote "anyone in this country" who did not minimise their tax "wants his head read" because governments did not spend wisely enough to warrant taxpayers "donating extra".

something similar applies with this situation just with donating funds to a body that isnlt doing a great job with the cash.

i am also sure that the 4 clubs would donate to JD in Gungahlin if they actually stood up and tried to play at a better level. they have wallowed in div 3 smashing teams for too long and hide behind some misguided thought that being at that level is good enough. if they actually had a plan to play at a better level then maybe they would get some support from the "big 4"

on another note imagine getting a couple of kids along in gungahlin and they look over and see the jets "1st grade" training. how embarrassing would that be seeing some of those units running around calling themselves 1st grade. until gungahlin changes a few things (like calling 3rd grade 1st grade) i wouldn't chuck cash at JD in their area either.

 

[southcab]

you guys seem to have forgotten about the $200k a year that the labour club is supplying to the AFL Canberra. that money was due to start flowing to tuggeranong (after the debt from wildcats was repaid) so shouldn;t a portion of that money go to JD in the valley?

The big 4 as you call them also have JD of their own to consider. all 4 clubs have had to invest considerably in their own JD due to the sh1t JD done by the league over the years and now they want Queanbeyan, eastlake, Ainslie Belconnen to fund other clubs areas? its a bit rich.

this reminds me of the kerry packer quote "anyone in this country" who did not minimise their tax "wants his head read" because governments did not spend wisely enough to warrant taxpayers "donating extra".

something similar applies with this situation just with donating funds to a body that isnlt doing a great job with the cash.

i am also sure that the 4 clubs would donate to JD in Gungahlin if they actually stood up and tried to play at a better level. they have wallowed in div 3 smashing teams for too long and hide behind some misguided thought that being at that level is good enough. if they actually had a plan to play at a better level then maybe they would get some support from the "big 4"

on another note imagine getting a couple of kids along in gungahlin and they look over and see the jets "1st grade" training. how embarrassing would that be seeing some of those units running around calling themselves 1st grade. until gungahlin changes a few things (like calling 3rd grade 1st grade) i wouldn't chuck cash at JD in their area either.

Welcome back wonky,had you have cared enough to read the original post you would have duly noted that it said the big 4 agreed to the proposal prior to the season starting and are only now reneging.
This being the case im assuming these funds would have been factored into the accounts along with any junior development budjets .
Surely you cant be happy with this arrangement not being honoured it tuggs at the very core of the big 4 credibility.
In my opinon if we continue to run a comp on broken promises (wether it be from the clubs or the leauge) then we are not going anywhere.
And as for the gungahlin statement i couldnt care less what they call themselves as long as they continue to play somewhere .
Not everyone is a super star wonky.
I do however thoroughly agree that a portion if not all of the labour club funds should go towards the jd in the valley.

 

[3rd Grade Maggy]

Point A) - Belconnen has never renegged. They specifically rejected the deal at the start of the year. There was no accountability provided on whether the money would used for Junior Development or would just be gifted to the clubs to do with as they chose.

Point B) Even if Belconnen Football Club had agreed to the proposal, the football club and the social club are two entirely separate entities. The Football Club receives a small grant from the social club to help them make budget. An extra 15K would have been coming from the Social Club (Magpies Group) who specifically rejected it because of the lack of guarantee covered in point A. I'm sure that the other clubs operate in a similar manner, the Social Club and the Football Club running as separate entities.

 

[wonky]

Hi everyone,

i usually just browse through this page and have a look, but ive decided to get involved.

i've been reading your posts re. media in AFL canberra. I was able to find this on the afl canberra webpage http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_...task=DETAIL&articleID=5450596&sectionID=55231

this gives a breakdown of what each persons role is that works for AFL canberra- there is someone that looks after media and communication.

I am also dissapointed that AFL canberra doesn't get the coverage that it should. 3 or 4 seasons ago the canberra times had great coverage of the league.

IMO the league doesn't promote itself well enough. They've got all the tools they need - Great facilities, traditional clubs with long standing rivalries, good junior numbers, an actual AFL reserves team and some great players running around with a good standard of footy being played. Surely it is the strongest competition in NSW/ACT, and possibly the strongest 'country' league in Australia? I think something needs to be done, even if it is just a page in the sports section of the canberra times and some coverage on TV every now and again. this isn't really my area of expertise so I don't have many answers but a good relationship with the canberra times and a local TV news program could be a good start, and then heavily promote the competition to the junior grades and schools to try and get them involved (free tickets if need be!). Hype builds hype.

Yeah i am not sure what happens with the Canberra Times of late but yesterday they had an article on Gungahlin Eagles in rugby union then today there is an article about the Royals 4th grade coach. I like reading local sport but 4th grade royals? we cant even get a footy article of any substance in the middle of the year. Its a sh1t paper, and since this i am boycotting as much as possible.

 

[electric feel]

Yeah i am not sure what happens with the Canberra Times of late but yesterday they had an article on Gungahlin Eagles in rugby union then today there is an article about the Royals 4th grade coach. I like reading local sport but 4th grade royals? we cant even get a footy article of any substance in the middle of the year. Its a sh1t paper, and since this i am boycotting as much as possible.

Im surprised there is such thing as 4th grade rugby union....so how does it make the paper? Royals rugby or ACT rugby must have a good communications manager (to promote the game), unlike AFL canberra.

 

[one 4 the road]

Im surprised there is such thing as 4th grade rugby union....so how does it make the paper? Royals rugby or ACT rugby must have a good communications manager (to promote the game), unlike AFL canberra.

Or they PAY.
As stated in earlier posts, AFL Canberra and the clubs themselves send articles and results to the Times but they don't get printed.
Now the league and clubs can NOT be blamed for what is and isn't in the paper, if the editor or whoever makes the decision on whats in, loves one code over another, then it doesn't matter who is sending in the articles and how much of a relationship is tried to be built.

 

[number 34]

[/b]
Or they PAY.
As stated in earlier posts, AFL Canberra and the clubs themselves send articles and results to the Times but they don't get printed.
Now the league and clubs can NOT be blamed for what is and isn't in the paper, ifthe editor or whoever makes the decision on whats in, loves one code over another, then it doesn't matter who is sending in the articles and how much of a relationship is tried to be built.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but dosn't one of their head sports Jurno's (he may even be the editor) play for the Jets in CD3??

 

[twobobs]

All this talk about cash..... what about the big boys at AFL head quarters in Melbourne? AFL Canberra should go straight to the top. The AFL is pumping millions of $$$$$$ into the Gold Coast and Western Sydney initiatives, surely they have been made aware of the inconsistencies that exist in AFL Canberra. For a league that only has six first grade teams, there is a wealth of talent running around on gameday (as shown at country championships) but there is little promotion of the sport and from other posters it appears that junior development is not ideal right now either. Maybe a more agressive approach can be taken if the right money is sent our way. Of course, it would also need someone at the top spending it wisely (which would not be me)!
I think that another problem a few posters have is the topic of junior players. Whilst in an ideal world your entire first grade team would be made up of juniors, this is never going to happen in modern footy. Gaining two juniors to play regular first grade games per year would be a realistic target. "Blooding" a few more with a game here and there is also ideal, any more would be a bonus. Overall, 8-10 juniors in a first grade side is a good effort, and the rest really need to be picked up from elsewhere (usually from Vic) so that you can remain competitive in this league.
As for teams poaching juniors from other teams, F#ck 'em - if a bloke has played all his junior footy at a club and then decides he wants to leave for an opposition team for $$$ then he is not worth having at the club in the first place. Dont lose sleep over it, kinda like being dumped by a chick for another bloke!
I admit that it becomes a bit more frustrating for clubs when traditional junior affiliations have changed, maybe AFL Canberra needs to look at regulating junior development.
Finally, any rumours regarding off season comings and goings to talk about? Any retired AFL players looking like heading to ACT?

 

[southcab]

Morning All Does anybody know if we have a new general manager yet ?
With the leauge about to do the draws for next year in the upcoming days im thinking there must be someone in place.

Secondly are the finacials of the actafl available, i would interested to see if the rumour of how well off the leauge are is correct.

No 34 David Jean is a sports writer working for the canberra times and yes he plays for the jets, however i think he covers the raiders i have knot seen any articles on afl from him.That may well be his role there .Im sure he would nothing more then to report on the sport he plays !!!

 

[dj ando]

All this talk about cash..... what about the big boys at AFL head quarters in Melbourne? AFL Canberra should go straight to the top. The AFL is pumping millions of $$$$$$ into the Gold Coast and Western Sydney initiatives, surely they have been made aware of the inconsistencies that exist in AFL Canberra. For a league that only has six first grade teams, there is a wealth of talent running around on gameday (as shown at country championships) but there is little promotion of the sport and from other posters it appears that junior development is not ideal right now either. Maybe a more agressive approach can be taken if the right money is sent our way. Of course, it would also need someone at the top spending it wisely (which would not be me)!
I think that another problem a few posters have is the topic of junior players. Whilst in an ideal world your entire first grade team would be made up of juniors, this is never going to happen in modern footy. Gaining two juniors to play regular first grade games per year would be a realistic target. "Blooding" a few more with a game here and there is also ideal, any more would be a bonus. Overall, 8-10 juniors in a first grade side is a good effort, and the rest really need to be picked up from elsewhere (usually from Vic) so that you can remain competitive in this league.
As for teams poaching juniors from other teams, F#ck 'em - if a bloke has played all his junior footy at a club and then decides he wants to leave for an opposition team for $$$ then he is not worth having at the club in the first place. Dont lose sleep over it, kinda like being dumped by a chick for another bloke!
I admit that it becomes a bit more frustrating for clubs when traditional junior affiliations have changed, maybe AFL Canberra needs to look at regulating junior development.
Finally, any rumours regarding off season comings and goings to talk about? Any retired AFL players looking like heading to ACT?

ex hawthorn players joel smith and ben dixon to Yass.

 

[FlipFoot]

[/b]
Or they PAY.
As stated in earlier posts, AFL Canberra and the clubs themselves send articles and results to the Times but they don't get printed.
Now the league and clubs can NOT be blamed for what is and isn't in the paper, if the editor or whoever makes the decision on whats in, loves one code over another, then it doesn't matter who is sending in the articles and how much of a relationship is tried to be built.

Oh please! The 4th grade rugby aren't going to be paying to get stories in the Canberra times. They clearly have better relationships built up with someone there. Why the F*!$ would you print something if a club just "sends articles and results" in? I wouldn't waste my time.

The league and clubs absolutely SHOULD be blamed for not getting anything in the paper. It's in fact their responsibility to get it in. It's ridiculous to say that the journalist/editor likes one code over another and won't print any afl. I've been involved in rugby union/league strongholds and we've managed, over the course of the year, to get an amazing amount of things published. The attitude that it's not going to matter if we try and build a relationship is rubbish.

 

[one 4 the road]

Oh please! The 4th grade rugby aren't going to be paying to get stories in the Canberra times. They clearly have better relationships built up with someone there. Why the F*!$ would you print something if a club just "sends articles and results" in? I wouldn't waste my time.

The league and clubs absolutely SHOULD be blamed for not getting anything in the paper. It's in fact their responsibility to get it in. It's ridiculous to say that the journalist/editor likes one code over another and won't print any afl. I've been involved in rugby union/league strongholds and we've managed, over the course of the year, to get an amazing amount of things published. The attitude that it's not going to matter if we try and build a relationship is rubbish.

4th Grade rugby mightn't be paying but RUGBY might be.
Whats tactics did you use to get your stuff in the paper?
What else should the clubs to doing to get stuff printed if "sending articles and results" isn't enough?

 

[Foot In Mouth]

Morning All Does anybody know if we have a new general manager yet ?
With the leauge about to do the draws for next year in the upcoming days im thinking there must be someone in place.

Secondly are the finacials of the actafl available, i would interested to see if the rumour of how well off the leauge are is correct.

No 34 David Jean is a sports writer working for the canberra times and yes he plays for the jets, however i think he covers the raiders i have knot seen any articles on afl from him.That may well be his role there .Im sure he would nothing more then to report on the sport he plays !!!

Rumour has it that the ex General Manager of Tigers is acting in the chair at the moment. Maybe he's the one. Interviews are bing conducted now with some excellent applicants. Maybe Rusty can fill us in.

Any truth in the rumour that an ex Richmond player has just signed with Ainslie.

 

[electric feel]

Rumour has it that the ex General Manager of Tigers is acting in the chair at the moment. Maybe he's the one. Interviews are bing conducted now with some excellent applicants. Maybe Rusty can fill us in.

Any truth in the rumour that an ex Richmond player has just signed with Ainslie.

Foot in mouth, you seem have a lot of rumours....where are you getting this info from?

Does anyone have any solid info of signings/possible signings for any of the clubs?

I've heard that billy neely might be heading back to Adelaide?

 

[A Bit High]

Foot in mouth, you seem have a lot of rumours....where are you getting this info from?

Does anyone have any solid info of signings/possible signings for any of the clubs?

I've heard that billy neely might be heading back to Adelaide?

That is talked about every year!!

 

[electric feel]

That is talked about every year!!

better than what anyone else has thrown up yet.....

 

[lil big man]

Foot in mouth, you seem have a lot of rumours....where are you getting this info from?

Does anyone have any solid info of signings/possible signings for any of the clubs?

I've heard that billy neely might be heading back to Adelaide?

I have heard down the vine also that eastlake will loose a couple namely Kimball o/s than with fam/work to brissy and Mcmahon moving away for work.

 

[The Spoiler]

Word from out West is that Belconnen have lost or ar on the verge of losing at least half a dozen foreigners. Very good quality ones as well. They'll need to be recruiting well to keep pace I reckon.