AFL Discrimination against North Melbourne, St Kilda & The Western Bulldogs

[Teffy]

So who do you want to play? Collingwood? Take a number and form an orderly queue.

If fans of these clubs wont turn up to games they dont deserve prime time coverage.

You justify an equitable draw with drivel like this?

You probably get more excitement from your tax return than a football match.

Collingwood v Fremantle - Round 18, 31/7/2005 - 26,586!

POWERHOUSE!

 

[Acecordy]

The afl will always favor teams like pies and blues cos they make the big bucks for them

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

You justify an equitable draw with drivel like this?

You probably get more excitement from your tax return than a football match.

Collingwood v Fremantle - Round 18, 31/7/2005 - 26,586!

POWERHOUSE!

If the Bulldogs drew 27,000 last night there wouldnt have been any negative comments made about the crowd.

Adelaide draws bigger crowds in Melbourne than Freo, too.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

They should definitely demand that they get to play Collingwood on Friday night twice a year. They should also protest how many Friday night games Collingwood get. Deadset joke.

Collingwood have less than StKilda and Carlton this year.

Adelaide 3
Bris 1 (Thursday night)
Carlton 7 (inc 1 Thursday night)
Collingwood 5
Essendon 3
Freo 2
Geelong 4
Gold Coast 0
Hawthorn 3
Melbourne 4 (inc 1 Thursday night)
North 1
Port 1
Rich 2
StKilda 7 (inc 1 Thurs night)
Syd 1
WC 2
WB 3

Clearly the teams that bring in the money and havent got alternate home grounds out of Melbourne, and are winning, get the bulk of the Friday footy, because thats what generates the massive TV Rights deal.

 

[Rob]

Collingwood have less than StKilda and Carlton this year.

Adelaide 3
Bris 1 (Thursday night)
Carlton 7 (inc 1 Thursday night)
Collingwood 5
Essendon 3
Freo 2
Geelong 4
Gold Coast 0
Hawthorn 3
Melbourne 4 (inc 1 Thursday night)
North 1
Port 1
Rich 2
StKilda 7 (inc 1 Thurs night)
Syd 1
WC 2
WB 3

Clearly the teams that bring in the money and havent got alternate home grounds out of Melbourne, and are winning, get the bulk of the Friday footy, because thats what generates the massive TV Rights deal.

So of the 3 teams mentioned in the thread title, 2 of them are getting an above average number of Friday night slots, with 1 of them getting the most of any club.

Myth busted, end thread.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

So of the 3 teams mentioned in the thread title, 2 of them are getting an above average number of Friday night slots, with 1 of them getting the most of any club.

Myth busted, end thread.

Theres no denying that (even though its exaggerated) but you have to look at the reasons why some teams get more Friday night football than others.............

For AFL footy, Melbourne is where the TV stations pay up for the rights. Its a mathematical fact...the biggest TV audience for football by far is Melbourne. So the popular Melbourne clubs who are 100% based in Melbourne(ie havent committed to day games elsewhere), and if they are winning ,help generate the most revenue and will be on prime TV more often.

The myth ISNT busted. This "discrimination" helps keep these other clubs alive.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

The myth ISNT busted. This "discrimination" helps keep these other clubs alive.

 

[Rob]

Theres no denying that (even though its exaggerated) but you have to look at the reasons why some teams get more Friday night football than others.............

For AFL footy, Melbourne is where the TV stations pay up for the rights. Its a mathematical fact...the biggest TV audience for football by far is Melbourne. So the popular Melbourne clubs who are 100% based in Melbourne(ie havent committed to day games elsewhere), and if they are winning ,help generate the most revenue and will be on prime TV more often.

The myth ISNT busted. This "discrimination" helps keep these other clubs alive.

You are right to an extent, but clearly it's not all about audience. For instance, 4 of the 6 highest rating FNF games last year involved either Fremantle, West Coast or Adelaide (the other 2 were Collingwood v St Kilda and Geelong). Yet those clubs rarely appear on Friday nights (Adelaide in the next few weeks excepted). Clubs that are proven non raters - the Dogs for example - continue to get above average access (they have for the last 5 years). St Kilda are another one - they also generally don't rate. Yet they've got 7 games this year. Dogs v Melbourne in 2 weeks - WTF???? It's going to rate through the floor (as it did in 2010), and surely no-one at the AFL or Channel 7 would ever have thought otherwise.

So the question has to be asked - why would the AFL schedule these guaranteed low rating games on Friday nights?

 

[Mr Smiff]

Less than 40K at the MCG last night for the "blockbuster"....St Kilda/Geelong.
Given that St Kilda put Geelong out of the Final last year, I would've expected a much greater crowd than this.

Now, we can see why the AFL "discriminate", can't we?

 

[Falchoon]

Now, we can see why the AFL "discriminate", can't we?

we can see where AFL "discrimination" is taking us

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

we can see where AFL "discrimination" is taking us

Ten different premiers in the past 15 years says its keeping the competition vibrant.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

You are right to an extent, but clearly it's not all about audience. For instance, 4 of the 6 highest rating FNF games last year involved either Fremantle, West Coast or Adelaide (the other 2 were Collingwood v St Kilda and Geelong). Yet those clubs rarely appear on Friday nights (Adelaide in the next few weeks excepted). Clubs that are proven non raters - the Dogs for example - continue to get above average access (they have for the last 5 years). St Kilda are another one - they also generally don't rate. Yet they've got 7 games this year. Dogs v Melbourne in 2 weeks - WTF???? It's going to rate through the floor (as it did in 2010), and surely no-one at the AFL or Channel 7 would ever have thought otherwise.

So the question has to be asked - why would the AFL schedule these guaranteed low rating games on Friday nights?

Depends how you measure the ratings I guess. Not an expert in those fields but theres no doubt the Melbourne TV market is the biggest and most important - excluding Sydney of course which is an AFL wasteland in terms of advertising revenue.

Also scheduling comes into play a bit - its more difficult to organise Friday night games with travelling clubs involved.

 

[Mr Smiff]

we can see where AFL "discrimination" is taking us

The AFL should, in future,reschedule ANY future matches, they pencil in for the MCG, to Skilled Stadium.


After last night,St Kilda proved they are incapable of drawing big crowds. EOS!

 

[Falchoon]

Ten different premiers in the past 15 years says its keeping the competition vibrant.

10 different premiers in 15 years would suggest the policies of 16+ years ago kept the competition vibrant.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

10 different premiers in 15 years would suggest the policies of 16+ years ago kept the competition vibrant.

Yes, the ongoing policies of salary cap, draft, income maximisation and income redistribution have been in place for a long time.

 

[Falchoon]

Yes, the ongoing policies of salary cap, draft, income maximisation and income redistribution have been in place for a long time.

as opposed to this particular threads topic

 

[Rob]

Depends how you measure the ratings I guess.

How else do you measure them? There's really only one way.

Not an expert in those fields but theres no doubt the Melbourne TV market is the biggest and most important - excluding Sydney of course which is an AFL wasteland in terms of advertising revenue.

Also scheduling comes into play a bit - its more difficult to organise Friday night games with travelling clubs involved.

Irrespective, whatever the reason it's pretty clear that when it comes to the prime TV slots, it's not Melbourne clubs that are being discriminated against. Which makes the point of this thread moot.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

as opposed to this particular threads topic

Two of those four pillars of the AFL's policies that I mentioned are exactly in line with this topic.

 

[conwaynmfc]

In 1998 North and the Dogs played in Rd22 for top spot on a Friday night at G and got 68k. If teams are up and successful, they'll bring in neutrals.

North have lobbied long and hard for Good Friday. We should be given and the opportunity to make a success like we did with Friday nights.

20k neutrals.

It was incredible the amount of people that didn't cheer for either team and sat still all game.

When you don't have the fans, you get jack shit.