Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2024 - What do we do, we don't have a top 10 pick?

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Keystone agony said:
Now that AD gone, good picks others, bad picks Adrian
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Too hard to ascertain who had influence previously vs now. This off season is clearly defined era without him. We can now differentiate BD AD. Before departure and After departure.

It's not like the recent seasons are different to most of his tenure. Some good work done, without obvious immediate superstars acquired.
 
Red Black and Blue said:
Too hard to ascertain who had influence previously vs now. This off season is clearly defined era without him. We can now differentiate BD AD. Before departure and After departure.

It's not like the recent seasons are different to most of his tenure. Some good work done, without obvious immediate superstars acquired.
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I agree thats the best way to differentiate

He still had significant impact at the draft table

He was involved in the trade swap with cats, may have meant we ended with a completely different player like Osullivan

He had spoken with Caddy, he commented on his work potentially as an extra bow of being stringer like onball as being exciting ect. He loved his extroverted personality ect

Everything pre this draft had Dodoros hands on it. I was also told the plan was to have him stay around much longer than he did
 

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Keystone agony said:
Now that AD gone, good picks others, bad picks Adrian
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No just the facts. Tsatas was RFK as well and that has a question. The fact is I have never said Dodoro was totally shit. Have always said he was middle of the pack but his failure was he could not hit a few drafts in a row with 3 or 4 good picks and he was often too smart for his own good by drafting blokes to turn into something else for example players he wanted to turn into midfielders. If you want a midfielder then just draft one. We also never ticked off competitor / leader as an important box.
 
Keystone agony said:
I agree thats the best way to differentiate

He still had significant impact at the draft table

He was involved in the trade swap with cats, may have meant we ended with a completely different player like Osullivan

He had spoken with Caddy, he commented on his work potentially as an extra bow of being stringer like onball as being exciting ect. He loved his extroverted personality ect

Everything pre this draft had Dodoros hands on it. I was also told the plan was to have him stay around much longer than he did
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You need a better source.
Yes he was expecting to be around longer but he had limited input to the last two drafts. Ask anyone who goes to a lot of under 18 footy. You have to actually turn up and watch to have input.
RFK as head of recruiting has been running the draft show for the last two.
Dodoro was the talking head.
 
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Keystone agony said:
I agree thats the best way to differentiate

He still had significant impact at the draft table

He was involved in the trade swap with cats, may have meant we ended with a completely different player like Osullivan

He had spoken with Caddy, he commented on his work potentially as an extra bow of being stringer like onball as being exciting ect. He loved his extroverted personality ect

Everything pre this draft had Dodoros hands on it. I was also told the plan was to have him stay around much longer than he did
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Did Dodoro ever draft a single player that he didn't say could also turn into a midfielder?
 
ant555 said:
No just the facts. Tsatas was RFK as well and that has a question. The fact is I have never said Dodoro was totally shit. Have always said he was middle of the pack but his failure was he could not hit a few drafts in a row with 3 or 4 good picks and he was often too smart for his own good by drafting blokes to turn into something else for example players he wanted to turn into midfielders. If you want a midfielder then just draft one. We also never ticked off competitor / leader as an important box.
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Hes missed some and hit some

Plenty of other clubs draft players to be something else

Fantasia, Redman ect have worked

One of the greatest players of all time which sortve kicked started the change in positions was Fyfe, who was fwd only and turned onballer very quickly
 
Keystone agony said:
Hes missed some and hit some

Plenty of other clubs draft players to be something else

Fantasia, Redman ect have worked

One of the greatest players of all time which sortve kicked started the change in positions was Fyfe, who was fwd only and turned onballer very quickly
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We never drafted Fyfe so that is totally irrelevant. If you think he was good then good for you.
 
Pretty sure someone posted out points needed to match a Kako bid at different spots. Think it was you eth-dog
 
ant555 said:
You need a better source.
Yes he was expecting to be around longer but he had limited input to the last two drafts. Ask anyone who goes to a lot of under 18 footy. You have to actually turn up and watch to have input.
RFK as head of recruiting has been running the draft show for the last two.
Dodoro was the talking head.
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Sure, but he was instructing on the type of player at each spot in the draft

And also instrumental in the trade up

I dont think he had no input like your suggesting
 

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ant555 said:
We never drafted Fyfe so that is totally irrelevant. If you think he was good then good for you.
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Its not, because it shows it can work elsewhere at clubs that play deep in finals. It happens everywhere

People make out like it was a revolutionary Dodoro thing that didnt work at all. I showed it did work for a few at our club and many other cases elsewhere show that it can be done successfully

I think we have a fairly similar position on him. Id have him above average i think, not the best, not the worst

Alot of things working against and still for the club, lets see if change means a different result as many here are suggesting it will because Dodo bad

It wouldnt even be outlandish to say he was wasnt flexability before flexability became popular and important
 
Keystone agony said:
Its not, because it shows it can work elsewhere at clubs that play deep in finals. It happens everywhere

People make out like it was a revolutionary Dodoro thing that didnt work at all. I showed it did work for a few at our club and many other cases elsewhere show that it can be done successfully

I think we have a fairly similar position on him. Id have him above average i think, not the best, not the worst

Alot of things working against and still for the club, lets see if change means a different result as many here are suggesting it will because Dodo bad

It wouldnt even be outlandish to say he was wasnt flexability before flexability became popular and important
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We did not draft anyone of Fyfe standard so for us it is irrelevant. That is the issue. We have a history of drafting non Fyfe’s to turn into something else. That is the problem. To move from average to good you have to mail me every now and then.
Attempting almost me does not get you a tick. Difference between best and average is finding that bloke a few times. You can not get it every year but you have to make some count if you are passing on players who actually do play the position to pick the other guy.
 
Keystone agony said:
Sure, but he was instructing on the type of player at each spot in the draft

And also instrumental in the trade up

I dont think he had no input like your suggesting
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Actually Brad Scott did that last year.
I said limited input. His job has been to make what Scott and Vozzo want to happen . He was involved in making the trade deal happen but it was at the command of RFK / Scott / Vozzo/ McPherson. He probably thought it was the right move but if the others didn’t want to do it then it doesn’t happen.
Same with Tsatas. Scott had no input into picking him but RFK was tasked with picking the best player that could give us speed out of stoppage. Which is what Scott requested. The other request was half back run hence Roberts and Lual.
 
ant555 said:
Actually Brad Scott did that last year.
I said limited input. His job has been to make what Scott and Vozzo want to happen . He was involved in making the trade deal happen but it was at the command of RFK / Scott / Vozzo/ McPherson. He probably thought it was the right move but if the others didn’t want to do it then it doesn’t happen.
Same with Tsatas. Scott had no input into picking him but RFK was tasked with picking the best player that could give us speed out of stoppage. Which is what Scott requested. The other request was half back run hence Roberts and Lual.
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So what are they requesting this year?
 
Keystone agony said:
No doubt youll find out after the draft 🤣
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Find out what ?
I am not claiming before hand knowledge. There are a few articles floating around with comment about what we looked for with the draft picks. The fact is Rosa has already indicated what we will be looking for this year. Now go back to watching Youtube and reading the ESPN power rankings.
 
Just Trust in Rosa

The Fraud known as Adrian Dodoro has been marched out no more back flankers that can be turned into midfielders
no more smalls that can be turned into midfielders no more ruckmen that can be turned into midfielders no more key forwards or backs that can be turned into midfielders
 

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