Anzac Day makes the game, not Essendon, Collingwood or anything else that you mentioned.
...but Essendon and Collingwood make up the majority of the crowd, that is all that matters to the AFL sadly.
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Anzac Day makes the game, not Essendon, Collingwood or anything else that you mentioned.
At least there might be a game worth watching
lol no....just snide petty sniping, qualityYeah, but do you see me whinging because my team isnt involved?
lol no....just snide petty sniping, quality
Odd then that before we made it an event, crowds on ANZAC Day were nothing special...Anzac Day makes the game, not Essendon, Collingwood or anything else that you mentioned.
60,000+ for Geelong v St Kilda, even at the height of their form would be a massive struggle. 80-90,000 is just plain pipe dream material.
And the AFL doesnt give them any sort of leg up. Collingwood v Essendon would still attract 55-60,000 on a bad day, more than Geelong and St Kilda could manage on an outstanding day.
I half agree with your other proposal to ensure one of them played on the day, but even then I feel it couldnt really be considered a blockbuster. I mean, a blockbuster involving the Cats? Or the Dogs or Roos? I dont mean to offend, but the idea to me is laughable.
Are you the worst poster on Big Footy?
Honestly, I do not think I have read a thread of yours which has not been an embarassment to you.
While you are bagging Geelong, please tell me the last time Carlton pulled 85,000 to a home and away game, or 98,000 to a final. Even including your games against Collingwood.
If we can draw 77k for a Qualifying Final against the Roos I don't see why it wouldn't have bee a sell-out or near sell-out against any decently supported Vic team.You only got 98,000 to the prelim because you played against Collingwood
Yay, I have a fan!Are you the worst poster on Big Footy?
Honestly, I do not think I have read a thread of yours which has not been an embarassment to you.
While you are bagging Geelong, please tell me the last time Carlton pulled 85,000 to a home and away game, or 98,000 to a final. Even including your games against Collingwood.
Yay, I have a fan!
Seriously though, the arrogance eminating from you Geelong supporters is blinding. You are deluded to think Geelong is suddenly a powerhouse. Please tell me the last time you got 90,000 to a home and away game? Or 100,000 to a final? Considering you have a mere eight H&A crowds over 70K, where we have 31, should be enough to shut you up, but it wont. 16 premierships to seven should shut you up, but it wont. 36K members after a last finish year to 30K in a flag year should shut you up, but it wont.
If it had have been Carlton up against Collingwood, we would have maxed out the MCG. You aren't in our league support wise. Dont bother.
Yay, I have a fan!
Seriously though, the arrogance eminating from you Geelong supporters is blinding. You are deluded to think Geelong is suddenly a powerhouse. Please tell me the last time you got 90,000 to a home and away game? Or 100,000 to a final? Considering you have a mere eight H&A crowds over 70K, where we have 31, should be enough to shut you up, but it wont. 16 premierships to seven should shut you up, but it wont. 36K members after a last finish year to 30K in a flag year should shut you up, but it wont.
If it had have been Carlton up against Collingwood, we would have maxed out the MCG. You aren't in our league support wise. Dont bother.
Why rotate it when clubs like Melbourne, St Kilda, Geelong, etc. quite obviously dont have the support to justify giving them a big game? I'd rather see a so-so Coll-Ess ANZAC Day game playing in front of a full house than a tight game played between Melb-StK-Haw v Rich-Geel-WB or whoever in front of a half full crowd. And heres the killer- YOU CANT HAVE A BLOCKBUSTER WITHOUT A BIG CROWD. That means that clubs like Geel, NM, WB, StK will never have a BB game and neither should they. They should shut up and accept it.
Rotation is a stupid idea. It completely devalues the concept of an annual event and I for one wouldn't bother watching it if anyone other than Carlton or Collingwood and Essendon were playing.
You're full of it you reckon Geelong wont draw a crowd. Factor in ANZAC Day for any club and you're already adding a bunch of neutrals. Maybe we wont get 90,000 consistently like Collingwood and Essendon, but put us up against another high flying Vic team and hype the shit out of it like they do for Collingwood and Essendon and we'll pull a crowd, don't worry about that.
You're full of it you reckon Geelong wont draw a crowd. Factor in ANZAC Day for any club and you're already adding a bunch of neutrals. Maybe we wont get 90,000 consistently like Collingwood and Essendon, but put us up against another high flying Vic team and hype the shit out of it like they do for Collingwood and Essendon and we'll pull a crowd, don't worry about that.
I hate that the quote has stuffed up haha. i agree with you but it looks like you are quoting me saying that shit!
Hawks don't play Carlton until Rd 22.
North play Hawks twice by Rd 13.
North don't play Carlton until Rd 20.
The fact is, you cant do it by yourself. You need a Carlton, Collingwood or Essendon for the fans to come. Simple as that. And if you have to rely on another team to provide the bulk of the crowd, can you really be said to deserve the game?You're full of it you reckon Geelong wont draw a crowd. Factor in ANZAC Day for any club and you're already adding a bunch of neutrals. Maybe we wont get 90,000 consistently like Collingwood and Essendon, but put us up against another high flying Vic team and hype the shit out of it like they do for Collingwood and Essendon and we'll pull a crowd, don't worry about that.
if the AFL want to continue with its preferred return match-ups per season, and bring a bit more equity to the draw, then it can pilfer another idea from the NFL - divisions.With a 22 round draw, it will never be equal. 30 weeks is too long, 16 weeks is too short. Get used to it.
One thing that amazes me about Geelong supporters is how selective they are with statisitics and what not. Its not how many top 10 picks they have, its how many top seven picks they have. Its not how many flags they have won in the last half a century, its the fact they won the flag this year, so they are therefore better than everyone else. Its not how many crowds they have pulled over the last 10-15 years or so, its how they finally got a people through the gates this year, and they still needed most of that crowd to be Collingwood.Wow, you really are a tool! As has just been mentioned, it has been 7 years since Carlton got a hoe and away crowd bigger than Geelongs this year.
Considering our GF crowd was the biggest in years as well, perhaps thecapacity of the MCG has decreased slightly????????? 100,000??? Just because we dont get 100,000 we are not a big crown puller? Please tell me when was the last time an AFL crowd was 100k? Please tell me if that was before or after the MCG redevelopment.
You say Geelong fans are arrogant. Your posts reek of arrogance, always.
I can imagine what you will be like when Carlton eventually climb the ladder, after 5 years of sustained failure and disgraceful tanking.
if the AFL want to continue with its preferred return match-ups per season, and bring a bit more equity to the draw, then it can pilfer another idea from the NFL - divisions.
Hypothetically:
- 4 divisions;
- an 18 matches per club season;
- each club plays club within its division home & away (6 matches);
- each club plays club outside division once (12 matches);
- division winners proceed to finals (ranked 1 to 4 determined by overall win-loss record);
- next four best teams proceed to finals (ranked 5 to 8 based on overall win-loss record).
east division
brisbane, kangaroos, sydney, bulldogs;
melbourne 1 division
carlton, collingwood, essendon, richmond;
melbourne 2 division
geelong, hawthorn, melbourne, st kilda;
west division
adelaide; fremantle; port adelaide; west coast
the big 2 times a year fixtures remain, clubs will know years in advance who they play and where, and the clubs who play each other twice are intially compared to each other for top 4 finals qualification. all clubs can still meet in the gf.