Mega Thread AFL: No Trades (READ OP)

[kickthething]

Trust me if it was the other way around and we were being accused of what Colless is accussing Fitzpatrick of doing he would of gone harder. He held back knowing that what Colless is saying amounts to 3 breaches of the salary cap and draft rules by the AFL itself, he can't attack the AFL Commission outright knowing that even he could get push back for doing so.

No issues with what Eddie said today

I took a different view to his comments, it appeared to me he was saying Colless admitted to rorting the COLA which vindicated his whinging. If he is aiming his comments at the commission, then I agree with you.

 

[Tuco]

Football. Life. It's all linked when you're passionate.

Beats talking about the weather anyway

 

[replicant]

I took a different view to his comments, it appeared to me he was saying Colless admitted to rorting the COLA which vindicated his whinging. If he is aiming his comments at the commission, then I agree with you.

McGuire said on Triple M this morning: “He (Colless) has accused the AFL of systematically cheating the salary cap, the trade rules, the free agency rules (and) collusion behind the scenes. It’s staggering.

“I read it last night ... I couldn’t go to sleep.

“One, I couldn’t believe the vitriol that is obviously raging between the two, but then I couldn’t believe the content. This is what I’ve been screaming about for years and it’s always been thrown back as ‘whingeing McGuire’ and all that sort of stuff. Now it’s laid bare.

“This is as explosive a confrontation as I’ve ever seen at the AFL.

“I’m going to actually keep my powder dry on 24 hours about this, before we come out and have a big chat. I have to speak to people today seriously about all this type of thing.

“These allegations are fundamental to the rules of the AFL.”

 

[The King!]

No, not on our side. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

We want Eddie to be anti-commission. We want pressure on the commission. Getting Eddie bringing pressure can only help.

I bet he sides with them

 

[The King!]

AFL house clearly has an anti-Swans agenda and they have shown that they will take that agenda as far as not standing up for a Swans player.
Richard Colless just made AFL house accountable and Fitzpatrick's position untenable. Hopefully the beginning of some change that will see us not get punished for NOTHING.

Maybe

Im just a bit over the outside noise

 

[TheMase]

Would they be able to override it though, since the AFL controls where finals get played? I know our new contract with the SCG provided for finals, but I couldn't find any more details on that point.

They could try. They would then have the SCG Trust taking them to court for trying to induce a break of contract. Wouldn't end well by the AFL.

In all likelihood the AFL probably gave the green light to the deal so the Giants weren't in our shadow as we played on the big ground and then on the small ground next door. It would have been to remove us from "their territory" to allow them to flourish...

I can guarantee you for instance that the Swans barely get a mention in Junior footy circles in Western Sydney. They shove the Giants down our throats!

 

[Number37]

Maybe

Im just a bit over the outside noise

It won't end anytime soon.

It will only end when the Swans win the spoon.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Mmm breakfast crew give it a twist like this shows eddie was right or some crap

honestly i hate eddie but its better he runs with it. we are hated atm let someone else champion the fight so the southern club bosses may actually do something instead of kowtow like the little bitches they are. If we are the face of the campaign it will be seen as our "comeuppance" and left at that. I mean who wants to sort out issue with the league when you have scores to settle?

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

honestly i hate eddie but its better he runs with it. we are hated atm let someone else champion the so the southern club bosses may actually do something instead of kowtow like the little bitches they are. If we are the face of the campaign it will be seen as our "comeuppance" and left at that. I mean who wants to sort out issue with the league when you have scores to settle?

Yep. Our fight is with those self entitled Hawk campaigners.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Wow. That's impressive. I thought the AFL controlled finals fixturing in the same way they own the match day revenue.

If we have a commercial arrangement where any conflicts are weighted in favour of the scg contract that would be absolutely massive!

the AFL does control where finals are played but, clubs can and are allowed to have their own finals agreement so long as there's no standing contract with the AFL.

This was why the deal was signed early, the AFL had to give its stamp of approval the only people that could say no was the commission. Not even mike is that much of a ****wit to block the agreement when there's no agreement with ANZ and the SCG capacity is within reg's.

i mean how would it look, sorry we're rejecting your long term stadium deal to keep open the possibility of future negotiation with stadium our boss has a financial stake in.

now this doesn't mean finals at the SCG it can still be moved to ANZ, But there's significant penalties that must be paid to the SCG by the AFL if the game is moved. which again screws mike because the vics will scream bloody murder if the SCG is being paid to move a final to ANZ which will only bring in 40 odd K.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Maybe

Im just a bit over the outside noise

What a shit year for the AFL.

 

[Ticky009]

AFL have responded according to an article on the Hun. But is a locked article Bueller?

 

[The King!]

What a shit year for the AFL.

Yes and no i am talking more about the swans last couple of weeks

 

[Tuco]

AFL basically just rejects the accusation in one or two sentences and then spends the rest of the article talking about how the proof lies in the fact that they fully investigated the Sydney FA deal.

So apparently Sydney doing nothing wrong equates to the AFL doing nothing wrong - as determined by the AFL itself.

The fact that any transgressions (if they existed) would have occured over the course of the year and would have had nothing to do with the Swans at all seems to be overlooked.

 

[Ticky009]

AFL basically just rejects the accusation in one or two sentences and then spends the rest of the article talking about how the proof lies in the fact that they fully investigated the Sydney FA deal.

So apparently Sydney doing nothing wrong equates to the AFL doing nothing wrong - as determined by the AFL itself.

The fact that any transgressions (if they existed) would have occured over the course of the year and would have had nothing to do with the Swans at all seems to be overlooked.

Colless accusations were regarding GWS & Franklin, but nice spin AFL

 

[Lakeside Swan]

Absolutely agree. I think the club should be campaigning hard for a complete removal of the trade ban, as should we as fans.

Too late now. That ship has sailed. We came to an agreement in the recent negotiations.

 

[McRobie]

Surely now would be an opportune time for the Swans to request they drop the trade ban? AFL in damage control.

 

[RUNVS]

They spent all of 2 minutes discussing it on AFL 360.

 

[ScrewInStuds]

Tim Watson discussed the AFL's backroom deals on SEN and didnt seem to understand what the problem is. It's pretty clear that they're all drinking the kool aid, and a full clean out is needed.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/08-15/watson-afl-does-deals

Where does it end? If you are willing to manipulate trades and punish clubs for accepting sponsorships, would you also be happy to cover up performance enhancing drug use? To ask umpires to gift a game to the "right" team?

I've never been one for conspiracy theories, but all of this honestly makes me question how the game can continue to be viewed as a legitimate competition with the current administration in charge?

 

[robbieando]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-office-sydney-swans-say-20150805-gisikh.html

Can understand why the club has distanced itself from Colless comments from a club vs AFL perspective. Better to have Colless as a lone wolf now than Chairman because he'll take up the fight without regard to normal protocol and we can't face the blow back for it. This is what I see Pridham setting up here

 

[Tuco]

'We are not at war with head office...but the trade bans were from left field and are s restraint of trade.'

Pridham deftly using an olive branch piece to twist the knife again ever so slightly.

 

[Tedeski]

Spotless............indeed!

 

[Lakeside Swan]

More info on this incident: http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2015/08/05/afl-accused-cheating-salary-cap/

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Yes and no i am talking more about the swans last couple of weeks

I'm talking about since 2012 the amount of attacks on the club and the silence from the AFL about COLA was disgusting.

 

[MF]

Surely now would be an opportune time for the Swans to request they drop the trade ban? AFL in damage control.

I just can't see it happening. Would be a huge admission of guilt on the part of the AFL.