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The government, any government wants to be seen as being on a winner and advancing the state.
usually they could do the government thing and do nothing until it' absolutely necessary
but with the looming Olympic games they are in quandary.
They promised a cheap games.with a refurbishment of the Gabba only but now see that
Refurbishment isn't really going to cut it plus and it's a big plus, they have to build a temporary stadium as well.
IMO the government will see the sense paying a little more in building a new world class stadium in a better site.
It's not about AFL. AFL is still the major afterthought justification but it's about the Olympics, cricket, concerts and whatever.
As usual the federal government will want to be a part of this.
Now N.S.W. is totally different. There are votes in building rectangular stadiums and unfortunately/unbelievably
votes in being anti-AFL.
The insecurity never ceases to amaze.
As a brand new footy fan, I'm quite comfortable in my interest in footy. Why are others so insecure?
Bizarre.
Probably not the right thread but an active one, to ask the question.
Was Albanese at the grand final ?
Was Albanese at the grand final ?
As a very old footy fan, that spent the good portion of my life in Sydney I'm quite comfortable in my interest in footy too.
I can right pages as to the history of sabotage to the Australian game in Sydney, starting from the very beginning.
I can point out the modern history of the N.S.W. government spending $billions on rugby league.
Now, can you tell me what has been done for the Australian game on the positive side ?
I see the sabotage as well and feel incensed about it. It hasn't stopped for the hundred or so years it's been happening.
Not much.
It's disheartening.
Made worse still by footy fans joining in on the pile on about footy in Western Sydney
That’s ridiculous. Check 2020 with the QLD hubs.
To be fair, Sydney is rugby league heartland in NSW. Governments are going to spend taxpayer dollars to appease as many as possible. AFL is growing, and it should continue to grow, but rugby league will always dominate Sydney.
A little bit like T20 cricket in the USA. If you play the long game, GWS can build up a Swans size supporter base and tap into a sizable market. Will take decades.
Mark Robinson’s recent AFL taking over RL comments were truly embarrassing. I wonder how much time has he spent living in Sydney.
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I have never followed any sport as I was turned off from a young age and shunned it accordingly.
Footy has been the best thing I've ever experienced.
People are much more civil, too.
I was mortified to say the least.
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Anatascia wasn't, but I'm sure nrl commissioners and former Queensland labor politicians Peter beattie and miles close friend Kate Jones influenced him, why do you think v'landy's has been praising the great work Kate Jones has been doing right around the time that miles dropped the no stadium bomb. They also managed to grab themselves an Suncorp upgrade and rolled out Wally Lewis to announce it in the meantime.
Then you have the anti afl John Coates and the fact miles thought he could win some cheap political points for 'saving money', when actually his absurd idea costs more and you have the situation we currently have.
I think the stadium will still be built in the end, I just cannot see a satisfactory alternative, but they definitely tied themselves in knots in an attempt to avoid building a new stadium that the afl could benefit from post Olympics.
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There is no such thing.
That is correct.
You've overlooked the bit where Australian Football was actively sabotaged but survived in spite of that.
Always is a very long time.
People said they'd never be an AFL side in Sydney. Now there are two.
Sydney Swans are proportionally big in Sydney and GWS makes AFL even stronger.
Nothing like it at all T20 is based on expats.
That's the idea. GWS could potentially overtake the Swans.
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It's funny I heard Dwayne talking on radio to the insecure sen Sydney crew the other day and they were all upset about some off the cuff comment robbo made on 360. I had to laugh, it was so embarrassing how upset they actually were about one journo nobody respects down here making a comment.
Anyway Dwayne to appease the frightened children made the comment 'rugby league always has been and always will be the dominant code in nsw'. I thought, hang on, that's bullshit, footy was actually doing well there till some scumbag nsw politician tried to kill it off, for some pommie game instead.
Anyhow on Queensland, hopefully this win supercharges growth up there, the crowd today at Springfield looked superb. I wonder if they intentionally matched it up with a W game? If so, it was very clever and is something other contender clubs should do in the future, when the afl is creating the W fixture.
Anyway Dwayne to appease the frightened children made the comment 'rugby league always has been and always will be the dominant code in nsw'. I thought, hang on, that's bullshit, footy was actually doing well there till some scumbag nsw politician tried to kill it off, for some pommie game instead.
Anyhow on Queensland, hopefully this win supercharges growth up there, the crowd today at Springfield looked superb. I wonder if they intentionally matched it up with a W game? If so, it was very clever and is something other contender clubs should do in the future, when the afl is creating the W fixture.
He will take the NRL from 16 teams to 20. Growing the footprint of the game, will also reinvigorating international rugby league
back on topic, I see AFL continuing to grow in NSW and especially in Qld.
If Brisbane get a new Olympic stadium that should surely benefit AFL.
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Lol to say he is doing a bad job is simply wrong. You don’t have to like the sport or the man yet it doesn’t change the facts. Personally I think he is a ****ing w***er with a chip on his shoulder
I just wish he would stop trying to extort the NSW Government to upgrade shitty suburban grounds or he will sell off the GF. Gangster sorta stuff. Seems to have a lot to say about the AFL to oddly
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It's easy to expand when his mate albo is sending him 600 mill off Aussie tax dollars, along with 3.5 mill to every other nrl club for doing absolutely nothing.
The one thing Peter can't do though is legitimately sell out state of origin and nrl grand finals in Sydney (been on sale since Aug 1). Maybe albo could give anyone that can force themselves to go to the grand final a tax exemption or something, at the request of Peter, just like his tax exemption he got out of him for any nrl player wanting to play for png.
PNG is one team yet in a few years time it will be a 20 team comp. I am personally against the federal funding for the PNG team and there are enough teams bidding with a strong business case for them not to need it
He has a massive chip on his shoulder. It’s not the AFL it’s Victoria. Same way he ran racing NSW or what ever it’s called. I do think that side of him is incredibly embarrassing and childish
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Yes but when you have a rugby league super fan in the prime minister's office strengthening every single club in the competition by stealth (our aussie tax payer dollars) you can afford to expand. The reason being, NRL hq's yearly monetary distributions to all the clubs are basically lessened by $60 million coz the federal government is paying for it, which can go towards their long awaited expansion plans.
I'm not sure people are aware, if 3.5 million was given to each afl club, it would bring some clubs like the lions with long standing debt finally outta the red and make others more wealthy and powerful. Doesn't the winner of the afl premiership and women's premiership only get $1 million in prize money? These nrl clubs are being gifted $3.5 mill each from the federal government, for nothing.
I agree v'landy's stands up for his sport, bullies politicians into over funding his sport and is better than goyder, which isn't hard, but I find it strange more footy fans don't hate the nrl with the way their chairman, media and fans trample on, suppress and actively mock our game.
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um that just stems from an inferiority complex. Success breeds hate and jealously.
NRL fans hate it that AFL is the biggest sport in the country.
AFL fans are secure and just don´t give a ****.
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Objectively, much of what he has done has expanded the NRL as a competition, not so much rugby league as a sport. That said, expanding to Perth will be actual expansion and growth of the game. Expanding the NRL to PNG with attendant spending on development programs will grow rugby league there.
Is he full of bluster? sure. Does he talk about the AFL too much? Sure, but i think thats more to do with it being symbolic of Victoria - and hes long hated the Victorians due to issues with racing, and up until very recently, them being insutrumental in denying his precious Everest Group 1 status, amongst other things.
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Sometimes. Sometimes they care as much as everyone else
Back to QLD, I’ve been an interested observer in SEQ this week. I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I suggest the apmosphere and build up to the GF this week has been underwhelming. Likely because no QLD team. There was unquestionably more hype around SEQ for the AFL / Lions last week than the NRL this week. The papers were swamped with Lions last / this week with NRL taking a backwards step. That’s evidence of the changing landscape up here for sure. AFL is taking market share….
ABC Brisbane hasn’t really been focussing on the NRL. No live sites, not much focus. Just the state election which is probably sucking the Oxygen out of the NRL too.
Times are changing. The Lions and the AFL are here and are more than just making up the numbers in SEQ. I sense AFL / Lions are bigger than even the NRL pundits thought these days.
And if LNP win, the GABBA will either be rebuilt or a new stadium will be supported and that means another big lift for AFL and its encroachment in rugby league heartland.
May the AFL keep forging forward!
ABC Brisbane hasn’t really been focussing on the NRL. No live sites, not much focus. Just the state election which is probably sucking the Oxygen out of the NRL too.
Times are changing. The Lions and the AFL are here and are more than just making up the numbers in SEQ. I sense AFL / Lions are bigger than even the NRL pundits thought these days.
And if LNP win, the GABBA will either be rebuilt or a new stadium will be supported and that means another big lift for AFL and its encroachment in rugby league heartland.
May the AFL keep forging forward!
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