AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

[RedV3x]

Objectively, much of what he has done has expanded the NRL as a competition,

Yes, the Dolphins were well overdue to more accurately represent interest in Brisbane.

not so much rugby league as a sport.

Yes.

That said, expanding to Perth will be actual expansion and growth of the game.

Not really. The Bears are a terrible concept (as say against Cronulla) but enough expats will attend

Expanding the NRL to PNG with attendant spending on development programs will grow rugby league there.

Who cares ? If it weren't for federal money the PNG would pull down the NRL severely.

Does he talk about the AFL too much?

He thinks too much of AFL and not enough of what's good for NRL.

 

[RedV3x]

Sometimes. Sometimes they care as much as everyone else

Australian Rules Football fans care passionately, arguably more than NRL fans but there is a huge difference
in what fans think of the "opposition".

I know that anecdotal evidence means little, but in my long lifetime, indifference sums up AFL fans attitude to NRL.
That has changed slightly, when AFL fans over hear hear that Albo is giving $600 million to NRL
(Somehow that fact has been kept mostly a secret) That angst is direct towards Albo rather than NRL.
I?MO AFL think it's rather ;pathetic of the NRL to go hand in cap to support their league.

In the same time I've heard plenty of NRL types saying they "hate" AFL.
I guess they blame the poor state of NRL on the "AFL invasion".

I actually blame the AFL for this situation.
The AFL hasn't explained the history and the importance of the game to Australia over time.
I guess they cannot since it was the AFL that destroyed the state leagues, the foundation of Australian Football.
Very few people know the history of the NSWFL in 1903 and the founding clubs and those founding clubs were largely copied by the NSWRL founded in 1908.

 

[RedV3x]

Speaking of delusional.....

Well, it's delusional by Albo that he can give away $600 million of hard earned taxpayers money to such an irrelevant project and not suffer political fallout.

 

[Seedsfan]

Well, it's delusional by Albo that he can give away $600 million of hard earned taxpayers money to such an irrelevant project and not suffer political fallout.

The Aus government funds Fiji rugby union to embarrass us at the World Cup. Apparently it is geopolitically important as it keeps them aligned with us and not China

 

[Bjo187]

Back to QLD, I’ve been an interested observer in SEQ this week. I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I suggest the apmosphere and build up to the GF this week has been underwhelming. Likely because no QLD team. There was unquestionably more hype around SEQ for the AFL / Lions last week than the NRL this week. The papers were swamped with Lions last / this week with NRL taking a backwards step. That’s evidence of the changing landscape up here for sure. AFL is taking market share….

ABC Brisbane hasn’t really been focussing on the NRL. No live sites, not much focus. Just the state election which is probably sucking the Oxygen out of the NRL too.

Times are changing. The Lions and the AFL are here and are more than just making up the numbers in SEQ. I sense AFL / Lions are bigger than even the NRL pundits thought these days.

And if LNP win, the GABBA will either be rebuilt or a new stadium will be supported and that means another big lift for AFL and its encroachment in rugby league heartland.

May the AFL keep forging forward!

Good post, I thought the same since watching the media there last week and this week a bit. The one thing I don't like is the use of the term 'rugby league heartland', sick of hearing it every time the afl is mentioned in the media up there .

On the qld state election, they had the debate the other day. I don't get how the lib guy says he'll throw out the qsac option, but they won't be building a new stadium. What's the option then? Can he even backtrack on that when elected, as his terms of reference for his 100 day enquiry don't even include a new stadium. A new stadium at Victoria park is the only decent option, otherwise the government needs to compensate cricket and the lions. So yes a liberal victory is good, however, I've got no idea what his plan could be if he won't build a new stadium?

Well, it's delusional by Albo that he can give away $600 million of hard earned taxpayers money to such an irrelevant project and not suffer political fallout.

I'm staggered it hasn't been reported on more and that the opposition haven't gone after it in a cost of living crisis. The other stupid thing about the idea is, does it have in the contract that png won't take any more money from China in the future? Of course they will. It's a concocted way by albo to over fund his favorite sport to strengthen it's popularity, with Australian tax payer's money.

 

[Taper]

Recent Google trends show a 30/70 split between AFL/NRL in QLD and a 25/75 split in NSW.
Compare this to the 90/10 split in Victoria, Tasmania, WA and SA.

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

If the AFL are serious about growing the game in QLD, they should contribute to the funding for a new Olympic stadium at Victoria park. Would be very beneficial for the games growth and overtaking NRL in this state.

 

[Seedsfan]

If the AFL are serious about growing the game in QLD, they should contribute to the funding for a new Olympic stadium at Victoria park. Would be very beneficial for the games growth and overtaking NRL in this state.

It shouldn’t be up to the AFL. Yet cricket Aus and the AFL need to work together here.

If they renovate QSAC for the games it maybe cheaper. But what use is there for it afterwards? None.

If they build a stadium that can house the Lions, Heat and international cricket it will be used 20 plus times a year.

 

[Bjo187]

If the AFL are serious about growing the game in QLD, they should contribute to the funding for a new Olympic stadium at Victoria park. Would be very beneficial for the games growth and overtaking NRL in this state.

I disagree, the afl should not put a cent into any stadiums in the future, as they are the only ones that ever do of any sport in Australia and it's unfair. Particularly considering cricket use the facilities too, plus footy is the only sport that actually fills them consistently allowing for the paying off of the initial spend.

Also on another note, qsac isn't cheaper when you dig into the detail of all the costs and transport associated with it, it's a shame nobody points this out. Miles went with a quick an easy dollar grab to look like he is looking after Queenslanders, but effectively it's giving them zero legacy and will cost more overall, whilst embarrassing the state at the same time.

 

[dave10]

Good post, I thought the same since watching the media there last week and this week a bit. The one thing I don't like is the use of the term 'rugby league heartland', sick of hearing it every time the afl is mentioned in the media up there .

On the qld state election, they had the debate the other day. I don't get how the lib guy says he'll throw out the qsac option, but they won't be building a new stadium. What's the option then? Can he even backtrack on that when elected, as his terms of reference for his 100 day enquiry don't even include a new stadium. A new stadium at Victoria park is the only decent option, otherwise the government needs to compensate cricket and the lions. So yes a liberal victory is good, however, I've got no idea what his plan could be if he won't build a new stadium?



I'm staggered it hasn't been reported on more and that the opposition haven't gone after it in a cost of living crisis. The other stupid thing about the idea is, does it have in the contract that png won't take any more money from China in the future? Of course they will. It's a concocted way by albo to over fund his favorite sport to strengthen it's popularity, with Australian tax payer's money.

Hard to know what the Libs would do. They’ve committed to a 100 day review. You’d be surprised if it endorsed QSAC. That leaves more money for the GABBA or new stadia. Once he’s Premier, anything could happen.

 

[Aussie in exile]

If the AFL are serious about growing the game in QLD, they should contribute to the funding for a new Olympic stadium at Victoria park. Would be very beneficial for the games growth and overtaking NRL in this state.

IF the AFL and Cricket want a new stadium in Brisbane they should go 50/50 on it.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Hard to know what the Libs would do. They’ve committed to a 100 day review. You’d be surprised if it endorsed QSAC. That leaves more money for the GABBA or new stadia. Once he’s Premier, anything could happen.

I have serious doubts if the 2032 olympics will go ahead in Brisbane, as there seems to be a lot of shortfall in the money for the infrastructure for the projects.

 

[RedV3x]

If the AFL are serious about growing the game in QLD, they should contribute to the funding for a new Olympic stadium at Victoria park. Would be very beneficial for the games growth and overtaking NRL in this state.

The AFL should contribute to every stadium for every stadium NRL has contributed to.

 

[RedV3x]

I'm staggered it hasn't been reported on more and that the opposition haven't gone after it in a cost of living crisis. The other stupid thing about the idea is, does it have in the contract that png won't take any more money from China in the future? Of course they will. It's a concocted way by albo to over fund his favorite sport to strengthen it's popularity, with Australian tax payer's money.

This.

 

[RedV3x]

IF the AFL and Cricket want a new stadium in Brisbane they should go 50/50 on it.

The AFL should contribute to every stadium for every stadium NRL has contributed to.

 

[RedV3x]

I have serious doubts if the 2032 olympics will go ahead in Brisbane,

It's NOT the Commonwealth games

as there seems to be a lot of shortfall in the money for the infrastructure for the projects.

There always is.

 

[RedV3x]

The Aus government funds Fiji rugby union to embarrass us at the World Cup. Apparently it is geopolitically important as it keeps them aligned with us and not China

Woe behold us if China starts playing rugby then.

 

[Aussie in exile]

The AFL should contribute to every stadium for every stadium NRL has contributed to.

No problem from me on that

 

[Aussie in exile]

It's NOT the Commonwealth games



There always is.

Just expressing my opinion and if as there appears to be a money shortage 8 years out that's only going to get worse.

 

[RedV3x]

No problem from me on that

So you agree that AFL should contribute nothing, the same amount the NRL contributes to stadium builds !!!!

 

[Bjo187]

IF the AFL and Cricket want a new stadium in Brisbane they should go 50/50 on it.

You're a trolling clown.

 

[RedV3x]

the afl should not put a cent into any stadiums in the future, as they are the only ones that ever do of any sport in Australia and it's unfair. Particularly considering cricket use the facilities too, plus footy is the only sport that actually fills them consistently allowing for the paying off of the initial spend.

When the state government built Perth Stadium cricket and football were separate.
Perth was crying out for a new oval stadium. cricket wanted NO PART of the new stadium.
The WACA was a very good option, saving the government many $ millions but cricket wanted NO PART of the new stadium.
The first thing cricket did after the build was schedule games at the new stadium.
games that drew well under the minimum break even point.

 

[Aussie in exile]

You're a trolling clown.

Just saying what a majority of people think, Clown.
Why do you always struggle with the truth?

 

[RedV3x]

A new stadium at Victoria park is the only decent option, otherwise the government needs to compensate cricket and the lions. So yes a liberal victory is good, however, I've got no idea what his plan could be if he won't build a new stadium?

Victoria Park could save us $1.1b, so it deserves better than premier’s short shrift

If the costs stack up, and there would be no net loss of green space, then Victoria Park is an absolute no-brainer.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

 

[RedV3x]

Just saying what a majority of people think, Clown.
Why do you always struggle with the truth?

Why do you treat people like idiots.
The NRL has never contributed to stadium builds
so only a troll would demand the AFL contribute to stadium builds,
stadium builds that aren't for just AFL, but cricket and all major events.