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AFL Players' Top 50 rankings (Full List Revealed!)
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Winners are grinners, the rest can suit themselves.
I said I wasn't talking about umpires specifically to avoid derailing my point
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Is this agreeing or disagreeing with my original post?
Someone said they were best team and therefore under represented, I'm saying they weren't but still have two players id consider locks - what are you saying
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Well by not mentioning umpiring at all, you would have successfully done that...
What was the point of that? You obviously still haven't gotten over it.
Ok so it could've been better worded but I've said intent few times now. You going to discuss anything else in the post?
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I do think that we were the best team last year, as we won the premiership. But I do agree that based on last year we only really should have two or three players in the top 50, those being Bont, Libba and Wood.
Fair enough. I don't think Wood would be lock but wouldn't be out of place.
Liz raised the point earlier of Geelong 08 being best team of that year, which I agree with, based on Hawthorn winning that year do you believe they were the best team that year?
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I wouldn't say Hawthorn were, considering Geelong were far and away the best team during the season. Including the Grand Final, they lost two games that season. Hawthorn lost five overall.
In the 2016 season, the Bulldogs were only two games off top spot during the season, compared to Hawthorn's 4. If you factor in our injuries during the season and the impact they had against us, it would have been either us or Sydney as the best team. It also helps that our team is built for finals footy, which enabled us to win the premiership. It is for these reasons I believe that we were the best team last year.
You are right in that 2016 wasn't clear cut. You don't think GWS factors into best team discussions for 2016? Even though we played off in final if prelim match ups swapped one or both of us might not have been there as we struggled as GIants and Dogs vs Cats
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Completely slipped my mind about GWS, all three teams are probably in the discussion. But I do believe that the Bulldogs were the best and we would have finished top 2 with the same injury luck as other teams. We were able to show what we could do in the finals series as we had close to a full team back from injury.
Thanks for the reply. Good luck with the injuries this year
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The Bulldogs won the grand final. They were the best team at the right time of the year. They've got the cup, so they are the grinners.
Were they the best team all last year ?, probably not, but they were the best when it really matters.
As the saying goes, a champion team will beat a team of champions. The Bulldogs are this saying to a T. Lots of B+ players, some A's.
The best team didnt win the GF. Theres nothing controversial about saying that. Doesnt mean they dont deserve the premiership.
I would aldo have Libba, Dahlhouse and Wood in the 50. With Murphy and Hunter around the 50 mark maybe missing out? ? ?
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Danger
Fyfe
Buddy
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Bont
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Pendle
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Selwood
Parker
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JT_the_Man
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9. Parker
8. Ablett
7. Kennedy
8. Ablett
7. Kennedy
Still can't believe what Kennedy has become as a player. Already one of the best players I've seen for the club. Definition of reliable.
Probably in the top 5 players I've seen play for the club.
Probably in the top 5 players I've seen play for the club.
JPK easily one of my favourite non-Dockers. Was stoked when he got named captain and he seems to be finally getting the recognition he deserves.
JT_the_Man
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Danger, Selwood, Pendles, Bont, Fyfe and Franklin all still on the board.
I'll take a guess on the top 6...
1. Dangerfield
2. Fyfe
3. Franklin
4. Pendlebury
5. Bontempelli
6. Selwood
I'll take a guess on the top 6...
1. Dangerfield
2. Fyfe
3. Franklin
4. Pendlebury
5. Bontempelli
6. Selwood
Was criminally under rated as a Hawk and probably would have had 3 more AA's if he'd worn hoops.
Of the home and away season for sure, of the finals NO.
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2 Tiges in the top 12. Now bad.
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Not saying they aren't the best, but you defiantly dont have to be the best team to win the flag. Injuries, suspensions, bad form, travel, luck can all effect a game in a way the best team doesn't win.
This comment will probably get a lot of hate but Bontempelli has been overrated in my eyes. Averaged 24 Disposals and a Goal (Clearances and Contested ball are above average).
But GAJ, Martin, Kennedy, Parker and Sloane are all better and proven mids than him. Top 20 I would probably accept, but top 10 and even potentially top 5 is overrated.
But GAJ, Martin, Kennedy, Parker and Sloane are all better and proven mids than him. Top 20 I would probably accept, but top 10 and even potentially top 5 is overrated.
Depends on whether the players were asked to state who they think are currently the best players (ie based on recent form) or who they think will be by the end of the season. Bontempelli clearly has the most upside of those in the top echelon, based on his age, so it's not silly to suggest he might be on the best half-dozen players by the end of 2017. But I agree with you that, right now, his output is behind many of those the players have rated below, simply because he's not been doing it for as long (and thus as consistently).
