Review AFL Round 15 wash-up - Geelong v Hawthorn

[Cohzee]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Class act. Posts like these go along way to explaining why the stereotype of a Geelong supporter is an uneducated, geriatric redneck dressed in a Holden racing V-neck sweater...

Keep up the good work and fighting for the cause

Anyway, to all those Geelong supporters that don't wish death upon people they don't know, Congratulations. Another top class match between the two sides and I hope we can meet again later in the year....

Why would we wear Holden gear?

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Why would we wear Holden gear?

Yeah I know, it's a bit of an Oxymoron on my behalf

 

[cancat]

Great game. Credit to both sides and umpires did a better job than some weeks.

Have to say it was Ablett's worse game for a long time. He kept trying and got a lot of posessions but very little came off for him.

 

[Cohzee]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Yeah I know, it's a bit of an Oxymoron on my behalf

 

[Hinkley29]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

It was exciting. It was hard fought. And we won. So that is nice.

But geez, we were ordinary.

Our skills were deplorabe, at a guess I would say that we gifted them half of their goals with turnovers and/or really bad decisions.

Look at the reaction of the players after the siren. They know that we played ordinary and got away with one.

Any Hawthorn fan should be extremely dirty - we were well below par, and that was the best chance that they have had to beat us and they couldn't. This makes me smile.

 

[Duskfire]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

It was exciting. It was hard fought. And we won. So that is nice.

But geez, we were ordinary.

Our skills were deplorabe, at a guess I would say that we gifted them half of their goals with turnovers and/or really bad decisions.

Look at the reaction of the players after the siren. They know that we played ordinary and got away with one.

Any Hawthorn fan should be extremely dirty - we were well below par, and that was the best chance that they have had to beat us and they couldn't. This makes me smile.

We are always ordinary against the Hawks though. There's something that they are able to do that shuts down alot of our run and creates immense pressure on the boys. Thats what good teams do. Its why alot of teams are generally so inaccurate against us; pressure. How many threads do we get throughout the year about how so and so team would have beaten the cats if they kicked straight?

 

[Turbocat]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Not just the setup though, the delivery. Because we stuffed around with the footy a lot, Pods starts leading when the first bloke gets it, and by the time the fourth bloke gets it and decides to kick it, he's too close to the ball carrier for it to be kicked to him. Happened several times. And secondly, if you have one tall forward you have to be aware the defenders will zone to him, so you don't kick it 50m and sit it on his head when there's 2 blokes there ready to spoil (in other words we didn't kick it to him when we should've, and we kicked it to him when we shouldn't have). So yeah, extra tall would have helped, but our delivery was the real culprit. That said, the conditions didn't help.

In terms of positives, Bartel was awesome, stokes hit form, and wojo was fantastic at times too. The defense also really stood up (even if Hawthorn missed gettable shots at goal). We've just gotta work at it, and I have no doubt we'll get where we need to be.

Good points.

Another thing is Ottens was way ,way under done. He would have to be better for the run and Corey was out again and he is tough player in tight games. Last year the Hawks game seemed to prime us for the finals the pressure they apply the closeness of their game style was all beneficial. Lets hope its the same this year.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

So disappointed I didn't get to see the game. Us poor Western Australians were unlucky enough to witness the spectacle that is West Coast V Adelaide! - poo!

If you paid attnetion to the Perth Cats you would have ben able to watich it live on NT TV which was broadcast LIVE to a few select pubs.

Brilliant game. If i wasn't so full of flu I would have appreicated the game more, amazing end to end stuff. Stokes was brilliant, Jimmy was tenacious, Ablett was MIA for large parts of the game. I hardly recognised Scarlett with the buzz cut That second goal from Pods...brilliant. Fantastic win.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Good points.

Another thing is Ottens was way ,way under done. He would have to be better for the run and Corey was out again and he is tough player in tight games. Last year the Hawks game seemed to prime us for the finals the pressure they apply the closeness of their game style was all beneficial. Lets hope its the same this year.

If this wasn;t against Hawthorn (or the Aints or Collingwood) he would have been in te VFL. Looked a tad underdone today. What was with Blake with those two errors that gave Hawthorn two cracks at goal too...he got out of gaol with them. I watched the games with a heap of Hawthorn fans today, they weren't that bad and they knew they should have buried us in the third quarter..oh well

 

[Tommy the Cat]

Amazing result when you consider:

• The players we had out.

• 3 50 metres against us.

• 5 posters.

I agree that we were well blow par, but we could have easily won by a much bigger margin.

 

[The Riddler]

Can you go for an attempted trip? It happened very quickly but in the first quarter it looked like Wojo stuck his leg out at Rioli and made contact but Rioli kept his feet. Around the 16 minute mark on Channel 10's clock.

 

[vinum coupe]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

We are always ordinary against the Hawks though. There's something that they are able to do that shuts down alot of our run and creates immense pressure on the boys. Thats what good teams do. Its why alot of teams are generally so inaccurate against us; pressure. How many threads do we get throughout the year about how so and so team would have beaten the cats if they kicked straight?

Correct. It has me stuffed but there is something that they do that completely throws us out of whack.

 

[candiehappy]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Correct. It has me stuffed but there is something that they do that completely throws us out of whack.

same against the saints, we always end up playing their style of game

 

[raff23]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Taylor was the one who chopped Franklin's arms, he then swore and threw his mouthguard into the ground. Seemed to be a tad precious by the umpire.

hodge got done last week for using similar body language, demonstrative behaviour they are calling it, i agree it is a ridiculous rule, players are being told too not be passionate and just be the umps lapdogs its a joke.

 

[InnocentBystandr]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Some good observations, here are a few of mine:
:diamond:Otto had good impact for the first half, but noticeably slowed down.
:diamond:Jimmy was magnificent all day
:diamond:Stoker must read the BF forums so he could stick it up all those who don't think he's in our best 22
:diamond:Besides being double and triple teamed (and agreeing with the delivery comments posted earlier), Pods had difficulty reading the effect of the wind on the high incoming ball.
:diamond:50's for giving the ball to the wrong player (who called for it) and throwing your mouth guard to grass were ridiculous.
:diamond:Today's HUN credits Franklin (3 goals) with major impact on the game, but questions Pods (2 goals) forward ability at the MCG come Sept.
:diamond:Hats off to the umpires for not getting sucked in to Rioli's blatant 'ducking' to earn a cheap free in the dying moments of the game.
:diamond:How wide are those goal-posts? Are they magnetic?
:diamond:Mitch Duncan looked poor on the stat sheet, but had significant impact and is a gun player (why hasn't he had a rising star nomination?)
:diamond:Mark BlakeBeing out-run by Renouf was just embarrassing
:diamond:Thank God we won, as the arrogance of Hawthorn would have been unbearable. I hope our boys don't rest on their laurels, and strive to improve on yesterdays efforts. (Bomber's comments were encouraging)
:diamondamn, but it's cold on the front row of the fourth tier!

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Great game of football, hard fought from both sides. I just think we have the Hawks covered at the moment and believed we were always going to do just enough to run over them - although i was disapointed we didn't put them away as I thought we were the better side by at least 3-4 goals.

Joel Corey will make a massive difference around the clearances. Otto' was very good even when tired and makes a signifcant difference to our clearances. Carlos Von Stokes was enormous!

Having Moons or Hawkins back in the side will make a big difference as Pods was beaten be Gilham who actually suprised me a far bit. However Pods kept at it the whole day and put in a couple of beautful efforts - that tap in the final quarter being a great example.

All in all, a good tough win. No complaints!

 

[raff23]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

It was exciting. It was hard fought. And we won. So that is nice.

But geez, we were ordinary.

Our skills were deplorabe, at a guess I would say that we gifted them half of their goals with turnovers and/or really bad decisions.

Look at the reaction of the players after the siren. They know that we played ordinary and got away with one.

Any Hawthorn fan should be extremely dirty - we were well below par, and that was the best chance that they have had to beat us and they couldn't. This makes me smile.

Ok to call you out on the first bolded point, you were below your best because of the opposition and the way they played, you cant expect to be able to do as you like out on the ground and the hawks did their homework. The part about the skills was also due to the first point, not many teams have good skills when their is constant pressure on them when they get it. The reaction after the siren was relief i agree, we should have won that game if not for bad kicking and a couple of poor decision making errors (schoenmakers the obvious 1 in the 3rd quarter that made me very angry) we would have. And yes we are filthy because we let a game we should really have won slip through our hands once again against you guys. Having said that we you guys dont have any psychological hold over us like you guys might be thinking, the club and the supporters believe we can do the business when it matters come september, thats if we get there of course.

 

[LankyCat]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Some good observations, here are a few of mine:
:diamond:Otto had good impact for the first half, but noticeably slowed down.
:diamond:Jimmy was magnificent all day
:diamond:Stoker must read the BF forums so he could stick it up all those who don't think he's in our best 22
:diamond:Besides being double and triple teamed (and agreeing with the delivery comments posted earlier), Pods had difficulty reading the effect of the wind on the high incoming ball.
:diamond:50's for giving the ball to the wrong player (who called for it) and throwing your mouth guard to grass were ridiculous.
:diamond:Today's HUN credits Franklin (3 goals) with major impact on the game, but questions Pods (2 goals) forward ability at the MCG come Sept.
:diamond:Hats off to the umpires for not getting sucked in to Rioli's blatant 'ducking' to earn a cheap free in the dying moments of the game.
:diamond:How wide are those goal-posts? Are they magnetic?
:diamond:Mitch Duncan looked poor on the stat sheet, but had significant impact and is a gun player (why hasn't he had a rising star nomination?)
:diamond:Mark BlakeBeing out-run by Renouf was just embarrassing
:diamond:Thank God we won, as the arrogance of Hawthorn would have been unbearable. I hope our boys don't rest on their laurels, and strive to improve on yesterdays efforts. (Bomber's comments were encouraging)
:diamond:Damn, but it's cold on the front row of the fourth tier!

I loved watching Big Jimmy line up at center half forward then decide that wasnt good enough and start rucking later in the game. Clearly best on ground. From where I sat he didn't spend very much time in the center square so not sure why the papers are all saying how good he was as a mid.

It was bloody cold in the 4th tier at the city end but at half time i switched ends to sit with some mates and it wasn't too bad. Something weird was happening with the wind at the city end as the flags seemed to be blowing the opposite way to where I felt the wind coming from and the ball was drifting over the back to the hawks defenders quite a lot in the 1st quarter.

I lol'ed when Blake got the ball in the defensive goal square, panicked, then tried to torp it out. Right up until it landed in the arms of a hawk 40m out directly in front...

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Jimmy has really step'd up this year, incredible output yesterday and has carried it through the entire year.

Another one who doesn't get quite a mention from others was Trav. Thought he is stepping up to the plate well...didn't quite come through, but just looked to have a bit more confidence and strenght about his game.

 

[mac_cat]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Some random impressions from yesterday's game:

- Jimmy Bartel - the player you want most when things get down and dirty. Always there in the packs when the heat was on, brilliant overhead mark in the forward line, BOG by far.

- In the last quarter, two instant replays from last year's grand final: Varcoe's hand-pass to Chappy in the goal-square, Chappy's goal snap. Harry Taylor's critical mark from the kick-out with less than two minutes to go.

- Trav's run-down and tackle of Franklin, just brilliant, really brought the Geelong supporters into full voice.

- Ottens presence in the contests was a welcome return, gave us an added dimension in the stoppages. But on the other hand, his disposal was shocking. I know he's rusty from missing so many games, but why was he so reluctant to kick, and why did he do so many loopy handpasses to players under pressure?

- Wojo's run from defence was brilliant, showed why we need him in the team. But I would like to see him do that for four quarters, he seemed quiet in the second half.

Despite our often shocking disposal, and poor delivery into the forward-line, I take heart from this game. There's clearly room for improvement, but we're also still missing a number of key players. So to still win against a quality opponent (Hawthorn always bring their A-game to contests against the Cats), with all those deficencies, gives me hope. It gives the team further confidence that we can win the tight games, and I'm sure Bomber Thompson will work on the negatives so we'll become even better.

 

[Vdubs]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

This is slightly off topic, but sort of relates to your post. A mate and I were joking at half time about the announcement about reporting anti-social behaviour by sending a text message to a certain number. With Hawthorn known for their "unsociable football", what would happen if someone reported a Hawks player for anti-social behaviour? Would security have to go onto the field and drag that player off the ground?

What about a particular umpire who had separate rules for Rioli and some of ours. Love that to be reported, which we joked about at 1/2 time

 

[davross]

Well played to your blokes yesterday, very close all day in crap conditions. Hope both teams meet again some time this year.

 

[winty]

- In the last quarter, two instant replays from last year's grand final: Varcoe's hand-pass to Chappy in the goal-square, Chappy's goal snap. Harry Taylor's critical mark from the kick-out with less than two minutes to go.

Chappy's goal actually happened in the first term.

 

[deej_36]

Re: Geelong Vs Hawthorn Rnd 15 2010

Hopefully after today Hawks fans will finally STFU about Selwood ducking into tackles, as Cyril Rioli did it to an absolutely ridiculous degree, and for the most part, was rewarded for it.
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I agree. There was even one moment where he clearly ducked and hawthorn supporters were screaming out for a free. I was just glad the umpire didn't reward it because it was so obvious despite what the supporters believed

Favourite moment today was Varcoes run down of buddy. Pretty arrogant (or stupid?) of franklin to think he could outrun him really.

hahaha that was awesome
it was probably the highlight along with stokes's guy

 

[mac_cat]

Chappy's goal actually happened in the first term.

Ah, my mistake

My memory must've got messed up by the tension from the game, I know it took some time before my heart calmed down!

I'll have to watch the replay to remind myself of when everything happened, and just to re-live some of those moments again.