Who is VIC country? How do you decide who plays for them?
AFL State of Origin - time to bring it back?
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Same rules as the under 18 championship
Which are?
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Honestly wonder if Victorian's even realise they went 10-7 in state of origin in the AFL era. 
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If the AFL ever did bring it back then it only works with WA/SA/VIC
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Honestly wonder if Victorian's even realise they went 10-7 in state of origin in the AFL era.
Yes - Dominating.
Do you realise over 60 percent of players come from Victoria these days? The Victorian population has absolutely boomed since the 90s, South Australia's has almost gone backwards.
Do a Victorian side and put it next to any other state it would be a massacre, it needs to be split into metro and country and I still think metro and country would comfortably field the best two sides in a national championship.
S.A should be more concerned about if they could beat Queensland or NSW these days.
I'd say the U18 interpretation is more one of convenience than anything else. For example, Tom Hawkins represented Victoria Metro at the U18 National Championships while he was boarding at Melbourne Grammar but he was very clearly a New South Welshman from Finley. I'd say it's changed a little these days with the introduction of the northern academies and players like Leeton's Jacob Hopper representing NSW in final year of junior football instead of the likely Vic Country representation in years goneby but then you've still got players like Will Ashcroft playing for Vic Metro last year when he was born and raised in Queensland for 15 years of his life where he was a member of the Suns academy in 2018. I don't think the U18 interpretation is a very good one for a potential re-introduction of State of Origin at the senior level because it essentially defeats the whole purpose of SoO in the first place and becomes more of a State of Residence competition with some rare examples of Riverina talent representing the correct state.
Depends on what you consider "formative years". My understanding is Wller moved to the Gold Coast at some point in 2011 while brother Maverick played for the Suns. So if you used the most recent SoO rules of time spent in states between the ages of 13 - 18 and Lachie turned 13 years old in February 2009, then you've got 2009-10, 2010-11, partial 2011-12 in Tasmania / partial 2011-12, 2012-13, 2013-14 and the remainder of 2014 spent in Queensland.
I know Weller definitely played for Broadbeach in seasons 2012, 2013 and Southport in 2014 so that's three of the five important junior year spent playing in Queensland. So I think Weller would just qualify for Queensland under those rules but it may come down to a few months/day here or there. It may even be a dead heat and therefore Weller might get to choose which team he plays for. Who knows. It would just come down to the AFL's criteria.
Some hold the belief that SoO was killed off in 1999 because the Allies team were about to become the dominant force with the likes of Brownlow Medallists Michael Voss (QLD), Nathan Buckley (NT), James Hird (ACT), Shane Crawford (NSW), Jason Akermanis (QLD) in the one midfield and you can add two Norm Smith Medallists in Andrew McLeod (NT) and Michael Long (NT) in there as well. Plenty of firepower up forward too with Alastair Lynch (TAS), Nick Riewoldt (QLD), Matthew Richardson (TAS). Not sure the powers that be in Victoria, SA & WA would have been too impressed when they were getting touched up by a composite side so I guess they just beat them to the punch and put an end to it before the dominance began.Honestly wonder if Victorian's even realise they went 10-7 in state of origin in the AFL era.
Yes - Dominating.
I thought the the "formative years" ended at 16 and started much earlier (10 or so), if it ended at 18 then that makes a difference.
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Honestly wonder if Victorian's even realise they went 10-7 in state of origin in the AFL era.
Yes - Dominating.
They dominated for years, then once coaches stopped making their players be available other states started winning.
Even in the champions games where premiers played eachother the VIC clubs would leave a lot of their best players at home.
Victorians stopped caring too, which is why the games generally got played anywhere but Victoria.
No to state of origin.
I would however like to see the "custodians of the game" adequately fund state leagues so recently retired players ply their trade for a yr or two at state league level. In turn promote the state inter-league games as state of origin
I would however like to see the "custodians of the game" adequately fund state leagues so recently retired players ply their trade for a yr or two at state league level. In turn promote the state inter-league games as state of origin
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I’d be there in a heartbeat. Do it 4 years like the Olympics to keep both the fans and players interested in it. The NRL SoO gets a bit boring having it every year.
I don’t think it should happen until NSW can field a team though.
I don’t think it should happen until NSW can field a team though.
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Nsw would field a strong team, over 50 players in the comp from nsw and you'd include act in that too.
On eligibility, players like Weller and Ashcroft should play for QLD, they aren't needed by Victoria and spent enough time in qld to have a strong bond there anyway. Why would you weaken a shallow team in qld to allocate the player to a side they wouldn't even get a game for Vic metro. You could actually have an independent committee decide with an AFL famous 'secret formula' to decide. Better for the game if they lean towards giving the weaker teams these in between type players.
Nobody cares, so no.
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Full strength Vic Country side (the weaker of the two):
Tom Stewart - Jacob Weitering - Hayden Young
Bailey Dale - Jordon Butts - Lachie Ash
Hugh McCluggage - Clayton Oliver - Sam Walsh
Christian Petracca - Charlie Curnow - Josh Rachele
Dan Butler - Jeremy Cameron - Jake Stringer
Oscar McInerney - Darcy Parish - Zach Merrett
Caleb Serong - Adam Treloar - Patrick Dangerfield - Josh Dunkley
Nah. Think Victoria would beat SA pretty comfortably
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WA, SA & Vic only. Every third year and only one game. Make it very lucrative for the players to participate and penalties for clubs withholding players. Perhaps salary cap/draft compensation for any long term injuries. Let the challenging state host the game (Or even just let WA/SA host, Vic gets enough footy).
For example:
2024 - Vic vs WA (Vic Wins)
2027 - Vic vs SA (Vic Wins)
2030 - Vic vs WA (WA Wins)
2033 - WA vs SA (so and and so forth).
Even star players might only get one chance throughout an entire career, combine that with nice remuneration and hopefully we'd get to a place where it's taken as seriously as the NRL version.
For example:
2024 - Vic vs WA (Vic Wins)
2027 - Vic vs SA (Vic Wins)
2030 - Vic vs WA (WA Wins)
2033 - WA vs SA (so and and so forth).
Even star players might only get one chance throughout an entire career, combine that with nice remuneration and hopefully we'd get to a place where it's taken as seriously as the NRL version.
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Could never raise an interested in state of origin.
Was mildly interested in 91 (?), the Lockett/Ablett/Dunstall side, but still Meh...
Couldnt give a rats about SOO, then or now.
Was mildly interested in 91 (?), the Lockett/Ablett/Dunstall side, but still Meh...
Couldnt give a rats about SOO, then or now.
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I don't even know who Jordan butts is. Is petracca country? And it's a fair side when Dustin Martin can't get in it.
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If Vic Country were to be a team, they absolute have to play "home" games in Country - I guess Ballarat is the only ground for that right now (and maybeee Geelong)
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Yeah Geelong will hold 40k so would be great for any Vic country home games.
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Plus getting anymore use out of a reasonably big stadium like that is always a good thing
NSW would have a very formidable side in 2023.
| FB | Harry Cunningham (SYD/Wagga) | Dougal Howard (StK/Wagga) | Harrison Himmelberg (GWS/Wagga) |
| HB | Nick Blakey (SYD/Sydney) | Dane Rampe (SYD/Clovelly) | Harry Perryman (GWS/Collingullie) |
| C | Isaac Smith (GEE/Wagga) | Callum Mills (SYD/Sydney) | Will Setterfield (ESS/Albury) |
| HF | Isaac Heeney (SYD/Cardiff) | Taylor Walker (ADE/Broken Hill) | Errol Gulden (SYD/Sydney) |
| FF | Luke Bruest (HAW/Temora) | Tom Hawkins (GEE/Finley) | Jeremy Finlayson (PA/Culcairn) |
| R | Jarrod Witts (GC/Sydney) | Jack Steele (StK/Canberra) | Tom Green (GWS/Canberra) |
| INT | Jacob Hopper (RIC/Leeton) | Matthew Kennedy (CAR/Collingullie) | Todd Marshall (PA/Deniliquin) |
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| Coach | John Longmire (SYD/Corowa) |
