News AFL to overhaul the draft, discuss changes to Academy and FS bid matching

[giantroo]

 

[threenewpadlocks]

And the dogs you need to find 3 replacements for Ugle-hagan, Sam Darcy and Liberatore. it's simply not going to happen to find 3.

Liberatore wasn't considered at top-20 player in the draft though.
Sam Darcy hardly contributed to any on-field success before this year.

I'm pretty absolute in saying that premierships mean next to nothing now.

Most people have the common sense to understand that clubs still have to pay something for these players, and they still have to retain them under the salary cap.

So we won it on merit.

No, you didn't because you got Viney. Why is it merit with Viney (a top 5-10 prospect you got with a pick outisde the top 20) but the Dogs not merit with Libba (who wasn't a top 20 prospect?)

 

[GC2015]

I get what you're saying. You've just picked out 1 player though. You'd need to find replacements for 4 players. Daicos x 2, Moore and Quaynor.

And the dogs you need to find 3 replacements for Ugle-hagan, Sam Darcy and Liberatore. it's simply not going to happen to find 3.

Okay if you want to go through it - Collingwood used their natural pick 9 to recruit Darcy Moore, Josh Daicos was drafted with their natural pick 57 and Quaynor was bid on with pick 13 when Collingwood's natural pick that year was 16. I just don't think the Pies are a very good example of what you're suggesting because they were around the mark / used their natural picks anyway.

Let's be really clear about the Bulldogs here - they've gotten worse since they recruited Ugle-Hagan and Darcy when they were the Grand Finalists. They were already good and have fallen away since then. It's not like the Pies or Lions where you could make an argument about F/S picks leading them to a premiership.

I'm pretty absolute in saying that premierships mean next to nothing now. The Dees won a flag with Viney and having only 1 good father/son in 20 years is probably close to an afl low. So we won it on merit.

So it's okay for your club to win a flag with a F/S player in the team, but not other clubs? How does that make any sense?

 

[Obeanie1]

Fair to say this will be one of the last times we'll see a trade like this taking place. Using several third rounders to match a top 2 bid won't be possible from next year onward.

It shouldn't have been allowed this year. AFL was weak as you know what when it folded to the crying Blues and Lions who cracked it when it looked like they will miss out on one last rort in 2024.

So the highest ranked player in the draft will go to the premiers for a hand full of junk picks.

The AFL does love propping up its pet expansion clubs. Seems to happen every year.

 

[GC2015]

It shouldn't have been allowed this year. AFL was weak as you know what when it folded to the crying Blues and Lions who cracked it when it looked like they will miss out on one last rort in 2024.

So the highest ranked player in the draft will go to the premiers for a hand full of junk picks.

The AFL does love propping up its pet expansion clubs. Seems to happen every year.

To be fair, approving future trades from the year before and then pulling the rug to change the rules is unfair on clubs like Carlton and Brisbane, who were only doing those deals 12 months prior because they thought the rules would remain the same. The AFL also has to take some responsibility here if they're going to change the rules on a whim.

Were you as outraged when the Bulldogs got access to pick 2 Sam Darcy after getting the number 1 pick the year before and making the Grand Final in 2021? Seems to be some selective outrage / anti-northern club spin going on here.

 

[Obeanie1]

To be fair, approving future trades from the year before and then pulling the rug to change the rules is unfair on clubs like Carlton and Brisbane, who were only doing those deals 12 months prior because they thought the rules would remain the same. The AFL also has to take some responsibility here if they're going to change the rules on a whim.

Were you as outraged when the Bulldogs got access to pick 2 Sam Darcy after getting the number 1 pick the year before and making the Grand Final in 2021? Seems to be some selective outrage / anti-northern club spin going on here.

What future pick trades?

Carlton stuffed up thinking they would go lower. They will be picked up in the mid to late 20's. Get a 20% discount and pay with 3rd rounders.

Blues then traded in and out of 2024 and 2025 to improve its 1st rounder this year. Nothing to do with the father son bids.

What did the Lions trade last year? 2023. Go have a look. It was a couple of late pick swaps. Nothing significant at all.

They just won the premiership but still cried about potentially losing some points or a pick.

I do not see any justification from the Lions or Blues on why these changes couldn't have come in this year.

Essendon did its pick trades recently not last year.

Who exactly would have been disadvantaged from what they did in 2023? I'd love to understand who and how.