Draft Expert PMBangers 2024 Draft Thread and psuedo general draft discussion apparently

[GoRoos2023]

Ah……fair bit going in that one.
Hope our bloke’s not interested in our part. Pick 2 for 9 and 16. Bloody hell this draft must be full of future AA’s.

I know? I did chat to someone who actually knows their stuff in draft watching. Their opinion was Colby McKercher be a clear number 1 in this years draft.

I think the kids great but he would be a mile away from Sheez, ND, JHF, Walter, Reid in their draft run up.

Feels like this draft is being overrated on Big Footy, I imagine from Tigers supporters hype as I’m not hearing an anything about a super draft outside of Big Footy.

 

[LB2Snake]

I know? I did chat to someone who actually knows their stuff in draft watching. Their opinion was Colby McKercher be a clear number 1 in this years draft.

I think the kids great but he would be a mile away from Sheez, ND, JHF, Walter, Reid in their draft run up.

Feels like this draft is being overrated on Big Footy, I imagine from Tigers supporters hype as I’m not hearing an anything about a super draft outside of Big Footy.

In fairness it’s not just BF talking up the draft. The media have pumped it up a lot. The lack of a real standout has helped that narrative though.
I am concerned about the talls, if I’m honest, there really doesn’t appear to be a Walter or Darcy etc who just looks unstoppable, even against their own age group. Be interesting to see how all the KP players go at the next level.

 

[Ura]

I view this draft as a flat log draft. There is depth without a pointy top end. Last years draft I thought was very pointy with Harley, Kerch and Walter at the top.

PMBangers would North be completely insane to take Tauru at 2? As abit of a fortune reading… if rumours around North trading out F1 are true are North undervaluing our F1 if we trade it for a pick outside top 10 this year?

 

[richoatthedisco]

In fairness it’s not just BF talking up the draft. The media have pumped it up a lot. The lack of a real standout has helped that narrative though.
I am concerned about the talls, if I’m honest, there really doesn’t appear to be a Walter or Darcy etc who just looks unstoppable, even against their own age group. Be interesting to see how all the KP players go at the next level.

The lack of a real standout is because the two real standouts had the year spoiled by injury. Yet they're still probably going 1 and 2. Both will be better than McKercher in my O.

On the talls, there's no Darcy or Walter but there are plenty of good ones. Tauru might be special, and Armstrong, Trainor, the Whitlocks, Faull, Dodson, Barrat, Shanahan, Smith, Burmeister, Sims, Gerreyn and Nicholls have all show enough to suggest they could make it. Mraz and O'Farrell too but their year was totally wrecked.

 

[PMBangers]

I view this draft as a flat log draft. There is depth without a pointy top end. Last years draft I thought was very pointy with Harley, Kerch and Walter at the top.

PMBangers would North be completely insane to take Tauru at 2? As abit of a fortune reading… if rumours around North trading out F1 are true are North undervaluing our F1 if we trade it for a pick outside top 10 this year?

I've umm'd and ahh'd over Tauru at pick 2 a lot but ultimately players are drafted on their potential and elite traits, and with that in mind it's hard to argue against him being worthy of selection there.

I'm not massive on next year's draft but it's always dangerous trading future firsts, particularly as a likely bottom 5 side, so any trading of a F1 from North should include something back other than just a pick this year

 

[Ura]

I've umm'd and ahh'd over Tauru at pick 2 a lot but ultimately players are drafted on their potential and elite traits, and with that in mind it's hard to argue against him being worthy of selection there.

I'm not massive on next year's draft but it's always dangerous trading future firsts, particularly as a likely bottom 5 side, so any trading of a F1 from North should include something back other than just a pick this year

I love Tauru upside but feels to me to have higher risk. Trust the recruiting staff at those stages I guess.

Thanks again for your answer

 

[LB2Snake]

The lack of a real standout is because the two real standouts had the year spoiled by injury. Yet they're still probably going 1 and 2. Both will be better than McKercher in my O.

On the talls, there's no Darcy or Walter but there are plenty of good ones. Tauru might be special, and Armstrong, Trainor, the Whitlocks, Faull, Dodson, Barrat, Shanahan, Smith, Burmeister, Sims, Gerreyn and Nicholls have all show enough to suggest they could make it. Mraz and O'Farrell too but their year was totally wrecked.

I agree re the top 2, assuming you definitely mean FOS and Lalor, but I don’t think Lalor displayed as much “sure thing” vibes as FOS. I love Lalor though for what he could be and love the way he plays.
The talls are interesting, but even Tauru, Armstrong and Trainor are all 195 or under, but I like all 3 of them.
As I said, I just wish there was the real brute force forward type in the rest, and, even though I’ve only watched videos, other than seeing Armstrong and Trainor live, I haven’t seen any of them look like that type of player, which is what North needs in our forward line.
Gerryn probably the closest, but even then he’s not a big pack marking type, could become though. Looks more Hawkins to me.
None of the talls have looked like top 5-10 prospect.
North’s luck has been whenever we’ve had a top pick there’s been no super KP player available in the open draft, other than the Phillips draft where we should’ve/could’ve taken MacDonald……jury still out on him, but Phillips looks a fair way off also. A mistake by us possibly.
Maybe the Cadman draft, but we were snookered there by JHF fiasco.

 

[botts]

I view this draft as a flat log draft. There is depth without a pointy top end. Last years draft I thought was very pointy with Harley, Kerch and Walter at the top.

PMBangers would North be completely insane to take Tauru at 2? As abit of a fortune reading… if rumours around North trading out F1 are true are North undervaluing our F1 if we trade it for a pick outside top 10 this year?

If north want him at two. Just take him.

 

[THE_GUN]

If not for the North interest would Tauru be selected before 1 of the St kilda selections ?
I doubt melbourne would take him with their 1st pick #5 when they need mids

Think its norths known interest (due to Cal Twomey constant viking to north comments) that has pushed that agenda

 

[LB2Snake]

If north want him at two. Just take him.

Don’t think there’s any chance Tauru goes at 2. Would be a great result for everyone else if we did though, so I get why Saints would be keen for us to do so. Reckon there’s lots of machinations to play out yet. Not once has North come out and said we want Tauru.
Personally I love him, but he’s a mid first rounder. Armstrong would be rated higher on North’s board.

 

[GoRoos2023]

PMBangers can I please ask you 2 questions as I am a little confused about the talk of this years draft being called the super draft etc.

My understanding it was pretty even but not the elite level of previous drafts.

1- If you had post their last year before being drafted JHF, Colby McKercher, Zane Dursma, Harry Sheezel, Jed Walter’s and Nick Watson in this years open draft (please disregard Levi Ashcroft) how many of those would go number 1 this year?

2- Why is next years draft valued so low? Is it just the Academy’s/Fs or is it just a shallow amount of talent coming through next year.

I can’t remember an urgency to get involved at the top end of a draft more than this one. Just trying to understand the why.

 

[Ura]

If not for the North interest would Tauru be selected before 1 of the St kilda selections ?
I doubt melbourne would take him with their 1st pick #5 when they need mids

Think its norths known interest (due to Cal Twomey constant viking to north comments) that has pushed that agenda

I tend to think with Twomey it’s the opposite. He gets information from clubs and reflects that. He has his favs but I don’t think in recent memory he has been wildly wrong with a player. His general comment on Tauru is his stocks are rapidly rising.

Gut feel if North stays at 2 we take Lalor or FOS.

 

[THE_GUN]

I tend to think with Twomey it’s the opposite. He gets information from clubs and reflects that. He has his favs but I don’t think in recent memory he has been wildly wrong with a player. His general comment on Tauru is his stocks are rapidly rising.

Gut feel if North stays at 2 we take Lalor or FOS.

I dont think North will stay at #2
They will trade it to move down and get multiple picks

Dont believe they are in love with any of the mids in this draft to be honest and which ever team suits their trade requirements will get the deal done and i doubt its the reported #2 + F1 for #6 & #11

 

[Futbolista]

I tend to think with Twomey it’s the opposite. He gets information from clubs and reflects that. He has his favs but I don’t think in recent memory he has been wildly wrong with a player. His general comment on Tauru is his stocks are rapidly rising.

Gut feel if North stays at 2 we take Lalor or FOS.

Would take the fun out of being a draft predictor if a reporter is getting told the information.

 

[dinnaz]

I've umm'd and ahh'd over Tauru at pick 2 a lot but ultimately players are drafted on their potential and elite traits, and with that in mind it's hard to argue against him being worthy of selection there.

Huge call. North drafting like fools for years means that they have to take bad options now.

This is the year where recruiters will be earning their keep.

 

[Ura]

Huge call. North drafting like fools for years means that they have to take bad options now.

This is the year where recruiters will be earning their keep.

Recent drafting hasn't been to bad in fairness to North. 2020 was a bad draft looking back at it. 2021 JHF was right pick just wrong person. Otherwise fairly good to OK. Top end tougher to miss though.

 

[Firebat]

Dont believe they are in love with any of the mids in this draft to be honest

What makes you say that, other than your burning desire for pick 2? I think all the top end mids would fit at North really well and it’s probably a balance between FOS/Draper/Langford/Smith/Lalor.

 

[THE_GUN]

What makes you say that, other than your burning desire for pick 2? I think all the top end mids would fit at North really well and it’s probably a balance between FOS/Draper/Langford/Smith/Lalor.

Yeah Nah

 

[Firebat]

Yeah Nah

Okay, so what makes you say North don’t rate the top tier mids?

 

[THE_GUN]

Okay, so what makes you say North don’t rate the top tier mids?

Your post has nothing to do with what i highlighted maybe re read

 

[Wild Bill]

PMBangers can I please ask you 2 questions as I am a little confused about the talk of this years draft being called the super draft etc.

My understanding it was pretty even but not the elite level of previous drafts.

1- If you had post their last year before being drafted JHF, Colby McKercher, Zane Dursma, Harry Sheezel, Jed Walter’s and Nick Watson in this years open draft (please disregard Levi Ashcroft) how many of those would go number 1 this year?

2- Why is next years draft valued so low? Is it just the Academy’s/Fs or is it just a shallow amount of talent coming through next year.

I can’t remember an urgency to get involved at the top end of a draft more than this one. Just trying to understand the why.

I would take all of them at 1 except Watson and Duursma.

 

[Firebat]

Your post has nothing to do with what i highlighted maybe re read

Okay mate you need spoon feeding. You said: Don’t believe they are in love with any of the mids in this draft to be honest

Why makes you say that?

 

[THE_GUN]

Okay mate you need spoon feeding. You said: Don’t believe they are in love with any of the mids in this draft to be honest

Why makes you say that?

Maybe because their list manager has said they are looking to trade down ?
i would have thought that would be obvious . But i need to wash the spoon now that i have fed you

continue

 

[dinnaz]

Recent drafting hasn't been to bad in fairness to North. 2020 was a bad draft looking back at it. 2021 JHF was right pick just wrong person. Otherwise fairly good to OK. Top end tougher to miss though.

You guys aren't that far off track- it's mostly the neglecting to take talls.

 

[PMBangers]

PMBangers can I please ask you 2 questions as I am a little confused about the talk of this years draft being called the super draft etc.

My understanding it was pretty even but not the elite level of previous drafts.

1- If you had post their last year before being drafted JHF, Colby McKercher, Zane Dursma, Harry Sheezel, Jed Walter’s and Nick Watson in this years open draft (please disregard Levi Ashcroft) how many of those would go number 1 this year?

2- Why is next years draft valued so low? Is it just the Academy’s/Fs or is it just a shallow amount of talent coming through next year.

I can’t remember an urgency to get involved at the top end of a draft more than this one. Just trying to understand the why.

I'm probably taking JHF, Sheeze, McKercher and Walter at Pick 1, but Duurs and Watson wouldn't be far away from Pick 1 either

A bit of both at this stage, but depth of the draft isn't really determined until the Champs of that year either, I'd just say right now there's not a lot of talent that's making people think 'wow'