List Mgmt. Aisho Going Elsewhere

[1892]

A bit of talk on these boards of us trading 2x second rounders up to a pick in the teens so we can get Aish through the draft. Probably unlikely, but any chance we could instead send that teens pick to GWS as part of the Treloar trade leaving 7 free to draft Aish?

 

[Bay Pie]

Can any club/supporters empathise with Bribane and their supporters? It'd be like Elliot, Freeman, Moore and a couple of other youngsters all leaving. It's crappy for them. And we can't just rely on academies... There will still be times when they need to draft kids from interstate.

I guessed you forget about last year, when they poached a contracted gun, to head home to them. The gloating was unheard of.

I'm sure you'll understand if most of us don't feel any sympathy for them. Perhaps you've better off asking the clubs that have benefitted from those losses.

Carlton picked up a pick 12 for pick 33
Port got a pick 5 for pick 16 or similar.
St.Kilda got a pick 8 for pick 18.
We did a player swap for a guy that's retiring after his 2 years.

We'll offer a fair trade for Aisho. 2 X 2nd rounders is a points value of pick 10 or better, depends how late. With those points they can secure an academy kid rated at 10. Basically a swap of Aisho for Keays. That is not a terrible result. All clubs get unders when a player leaves. It's about minimising the loss.

Perhaps, and rightly so, Matthews is ticked off with the return on those early picks. Longer was a stupid pick being a no.1 ruckman when they had Leuenberger. He'd be really ticked off with losing a pick 12 for pick 33. So would I, but you move on. They didn't have to do that deal.

 

[MyManLynch]

Interesting times ahead... If your mob want Aish you better pay up a decent price or else he goes to Carlton in PSD or Crows in ND. From Leigh's comments it sounds as though he absolutely hates Pies not sure why though considering he was arguably your best coach the past 20 years.

Let him walk to the draft...your loss.
We can use our picks to secure another good player...either way, we are improving our list.

 

[Roverjg]

Leigh also said twice last year that if he had a son that was able to play for either Haw, Bris or Coll. He would advise him to play for Collingwood.

He also stated in 2015 that of all his Flags. The Collingwood one was probably the most special.

And then a week or so ago he said he hoped WCE beat Haw in the Grand Final.

Who understands Leigh Mathews? Not me.

Interesting his comments about Collingwood. I have only heard him say negative things about us in the past 15 years, and absolutely _ _ _ _ stuff in the past 18 months since Eddie and his COLA campaign.

He did explain his rationale for wanting WCE to win as he wanted the BL triple premiership legacy to remain intact by itself and not be diminished or overtaken by Hawthorn winning a 3rd straight premiership

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Bradshaw was finished as an AFL player. His knees were shot. Brisbane knew he wouldn't have lasted one year, let alone two so decided to cut their losses. You don't keep players on top salary that you know can't cut it at AFL level, regardless of what the have done at your club.

So Bradshaw and Voss are friends again now are they.....umm, no.
Bradshaw still refuses to talk to Voss

 

[ottoman]

As much as I really would like to see Aish in the Black and White jumper next year, if it doesn't work out I can live with it. The lolz at Brisbane letting go of a top player for nothing is outweighing any sadness that we may not get him.
And all this to prove what exactly? Do they honestly think that if the next guy is unhappy there after 2 years he is going to stay?
Love your work Brisbane. Come the end of the trade week you can puff your chest out and say "we showed them" Then watch every team next year give you a spanking week after week. Then you will see who really showed who.

 

[Mick39]

If we sent the 2 x 2nd Round Picks to GWS for Treloar deal.

Hypothetically we get Pick 22 for Seedsman from GC & 24 from St. Kilda for Freeman.

Pick 22 - 845 points.
Pick 24 - 785 points.
Total points - 1630 points.

Pick 7 - 1640 points.
Pick 8 - 1551 points

 

[Sasquatch]

So Brisbane shopped a 31 year old with dodgy knees to Carlton? Don't get me wrong, **** Carlton but how stupid were they or how dishonest was Brisbane?

Yes they did and he failed Carlton's medical so Carlton weren't stupid. The only club that was stupid in getting him was Sydney.

 

[Sasquatch]

So Bradshaw and Voss are friends again now are they.....umm, no.
Bradshaw still refuses to talk to Voss

So? Voss and the club made the right decision. Bradshaw was too stubborn thinking he could still play at that level and if he can't see that now, after he struggled to see out his career at Sydney, then it tells you more about Bradshaw as a person than it does about Voss.

 

[Mick39]

Brisbane didn't stuff up with Bradshaw, they stuffed up with Rischatelli. He has never spoken to Voss after how he and Brisbane treated him that trade period.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

Yes they did and he failed Carlton's medical so Carlton weren't stupid. The only club that was stupid in getting him was Sydney.

And Brisbane were dishonest?

 

[si tacuisses]

How is it that every trade period I end up despising the Lions more than even Carlton, Essendon, or Richmond?

 

[Go Woods]

**** Brisbane I can't wait until we play them next year we will smashem

 

[Baltimore Jack]

So? Voss and the club made the right decision. Bradshaw was too stubborn thinking he could still play at that level and if he can't see that now, after he struggled to see out his career at Sydney, then it tells you more about Bradshaw as a person than it does about Voss.

The discussion was about the putrid culture at Brisbane
My point was it has been bad in that shit hole for years

 

[BPikkers]

So? Voss and the club made the right decision. Bradshaw was too stubborn thinking he could still play at that level and if he can't see that now, after he struggled to see out his career at Sydney, then it tells you more about Bradshaw as a person than it does about Voss.

I learned a lot about Vossy during that period. A 'dillusional idiot' is what I learned. He put you guys where u r today!

 

[MagpieJoel]

just because you have a high number of trades doesn't mean you are difficult to deal with. You guys were difficult to deal with for the Beams trade.

You're wrong buddy. We are generally easy to trade with, but we won't be bent over in the process. Refer for Adams and Shaw trade for an example.

Now piss off back to your board.

 

[Magpie Ink]

Going by most of the muted trade options for Aish it seems that the most popular options are

- 2 x second rounders
- 1 x second rounder + Oxley/Seedsman

Now for me the most likely option is if we could turn the 2 x second rounders into a first round such as the Swans pick 14.

If we could do this I think we would be in a great position to secure Aish whether or not the Lions come to the party.

IMO if we could offer pick 14 to the Lions, I think most people would think that would be more than a fair trade(apart from the rusted on Collingwood haters)

Now if for some reason the Lions feel like they need to knock that back we just go to the National draft with a price on his head and see if he gets through.

Worst case is he gets grabbed earlier and we get to have a crack at another first draft pick.

Happy Days

 

[Alexander323bc]

Going by most of the muted trade options for Aish it seems that the most popular options are

- 2 x second rounders
- 1 x second rounder + Oxley/Seedsman

Now for me the most likely option is if we could turn the 2 x second rounders into a first round such as the Swans pick 14.

If we could do this I think we would be in a great position to secure Aish whether or not the Lions come to the party.

IMO if we could offer pick 14 to the Lions, I think most people would think that would be more than a fair trade(apart from the rusted on Collingwood haters)

Now if for some reason the Lions feel like they need to knock that back we just go to the National draft with a price on his head and see if he gets through.

Worst case is he gets grabbed earlier and we get to have a crack at another first draft pick.

Happy Days

24 & 26 are worth more points then 14 as someone pointed out. I'd take 24&26 if I was looking to pick up academy players.

 

[jimmy35]

They don't want any stinkin' academy players they want to make a statement.

 

[Magpie Ink]

24 & 26 are worth more points then 14 as someone pointed out. I'd take 24&26 if I was looking to pick up academy players.

Yes I realise that but it seems to me that the Lions could at least say they got a first round pick for Aish.

At worst we have improved our draft position for a kid if Aish gets snapped up earlier.

 

[half_back_flank]

A bit of talk on these boards of us trading 2x second rounders up to a pick in the teens so we can get Aish through the draft. Probably unlikely, but any chance we could instead send that teens pick to GWS as part of the Treloar trade leaving 7 free to draft Aish?

Don't want him for pick 7. He's uncontracted, nominated us and Brisbane are a shambles. Time to push hard and if Brisbane do go through with their ridiculous threat he ends up at Carlton who are that far from being a competent football side it isnt funny. Nothing personal, just what a well run business does.

 

[regpies]

They don't want any stinkin' academy players they want to make a statement.

And what a statement it is, if you don't want to be here we will make you stay. Quality

Why do they want to keep players who don't have their heart in it? Look at Aish this year, didn't want to be there and his performance showed

 

[MeisterBot]

They don't want any stinkin' academy players they want to make a statement.

Yeah, and what a statement.

"You don't want to give us any priority picks, AFL?! Fine! Hmph! You go to the draft Aish, we don't want to receive adequate compensation for you because you're a young first rounder, and we don't back our recruitment team to make good decisions from bad situations! See how you like that, AFL! Now you'll have to give us special treatment, we can't function without it! I want my priority pick/draftee contract changes NOW!!"

It has to be a ploy to get the most value for him. If they actually stick to their guns, they're petulant and delusional. But, this is Brisbane we're talking about.

 

[The_Anvil]

Don't want him for pick 7. He's uncontracted, nominated us and Brisbane are a shambles. Time to push hard and if Brisbane do go through with their ridiculous threat he ends up at Carlton who are that far from being a competent football side it isnt funny. Nothing personal, just what a well run business does.

Just remember, we can pick up Sam Weideman at pick 7. If given the opportunity of somehow keeping our first rounder, I'd be betting Dekka would jump at the chance. Another key forward is a MUST.

 

[ottoman]

Just remember, we can pick up Sam Weideman at pick 7. If given the opportunity of somehow keeping our first rounder, I'd be betting Dekka would jump at the chance. Another key forward is a MUST.

We can dream but I think the chances of keeping that pick are slightly above zero.
Having said that how cool would it be to have Cloke Jnr, Weid Jnr, Moore Jnr, Daicos Jnr and Brown Jnr all running around together, all we need to do is get Shaw Jnr back