All things Politics

[sr36]

I've got one poster on ignore who has kept belittling me, putting me down, making derogatory comments, stalking me, and making misrepresentations of what I'm about. He kept on going on and on about 'woke', 'left' 'right' american politics even though I'm not interested in American politics even though he's obsessed by it.

Yes Windy. I was stalking you by being the recipient of abusive pms for calling you wokey due to your bizarre John Pilger cancellation rubbish ...

 

[Markfs]

The other way around. If you don't like someone's social policy and you come from a very privileged position in life, you really have no right to make derogatory comments that are indeed stupid, such as class put downs, mental health jibes which happens all the time in here.

I've never stated that clem is the centre of division in Gaza. I've concentrated on loaval politics from the start. You are extremely pigheaded on political matters and are always desperate to shape the narrative. On many occassion you and others misrepresent your perceived 'enemies' and are also intellectually dishonest. And you have to be if your going to get worked up by someone quoting articles where clem is potrated as the fool she is.

I've got one poster on ignore who has kept belittling me, putting me down, making derogatory comments, stalking me, and making misrepresentations of what I'm about. He kept on going on and on about 'woke', 'left' 'right' american politics even though I'm not interested in American politics even though he's obsessed by it.

Class divide is a lot more the 'leafy' suburbs. On another issue you will agree with me there but it didn't suit the narrative on this occasion. I don't time to posy here cause my job is more hands on and honestly I'm well aware that your are a bunch of teachers on this board who are political activists and who've been mightily offended and triggered with the links I've posted. I'll leave it at that. This post is rushed im sure it will get ridiculed by the toffs from.parhran.

Fantastic post, Windy. One of your best. I didnt realise how hard life was for you. Keep your chin up champ. I have confidence in you.

 

[sr36]

What is all this about Prahran? Has our resident Windy Poo got a bee in his bonnet about Prahran? What on earth has Prahran done to gain such a status?

The spelling and pronunciation combination is nonsensical and downright offensive.

 

[Mauvais Cheval]

The spelling and pronunciation combination is nonsensical and downright offensive.

Prahran is the Melbourne equivalent of shibboleth. In the event we are at war with the rest of Australia, we will be able to determine agents from outside Melbourne by asking them to say "Prahran" and when they inevitably mangle it to ****, kill them.

 

[Markfs]

Prahran is the Melbourne equivalent of shibboleth. In the event we are at war with the rest of Australia, we will be able to determine agents from outside Melbourne by asking them to say "Prahran" and when they inevitably mangle it to *, kill them.

to me it's obvious....its too phonetically similar to tehran for it to be a coincidence...

 

[Markfs]

The debate in israel about who has exemptions from the military draft is puzzling and fascinating. I remember back in the vietnam days guys liked to try to escape the draft by going to university, and there were medical exemptions that could be used.

Christians and muslims who are israeli citizens are already exempted from the draft, but those blokes with the strange haircuts also get an exemption but it seems their luck is coming to an end. I was surprised to see that they make up 13% of the population and their country needs them.

The other thing that's surprising is that I thought they were strong supporters of the right wing parliamentarians, so you would expect them to be big supporters of the miliary....but evidently not for themselves. Evidently, it seems many are not zionists and believe that helping establish the historical state of israel would be pre-empting the arrival of the messiah....i'm not making this up...

I know one thing. If I could escape the draft, I'd be giving myself a funny haircut immediately. .

 

[ZEV]

I know one thing. If I could escape the draft, I'd be giving myself a funny haircut immediately. .

I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone on this board.

Not sure if you would pass the psych eval either.

If you did, you might make some lifelong friends and have the opportunity to make a difference.

 

[Markfs]

I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone on this board.

Not sure if you would pass the psych eval either.

If you did, you might make some lifelong friends and have the opportunity to make a difference.

I just dont have the stomach for killing people, zevie....maybe its your religion that gives you that strength. As for the psych, i do tend to fail tests which determine whether i would follow orders...

 

[Markfs]

Some predictable outcomes from Peter Dutton's bizarre comparisons yesterday. That fat hairy slug, Paul Murray, on Sky has come out to bat for his mate and he's promoting the line that Labor are student activists..... Evidently, this follows the Trump strategy of equating the other side of politics with elitists yada yada....

In contrast to Albo looking and sounding like a student elitist, Dutts is just a humble queensland copper who has his finger on the pulse of australians. And most aussie battlers are making comparisons between palestinians protests and the port arthur massacre.....or so Fat boy seems to think. And Dutt's aussie battler mates are also sick of their fellow jewish battlers being pushed around by palestinian elitists...evidently prahran is the centre of it...

Of course while this trump mark 2 strategy looks seamless on first look, it shoulld be remembered that australia lost its manufacturing base to asia 40 years ago and there's few that can manage to generate the angst for their lost jobs. The other difference is that the US has 100 million evangelicals who are generally christian zionists in their views and while this cohort is growing in Australia, I'm not sure it can deliver the votes that Dutts is wanting.

This wont stop the fat boy or his mates pushing the barrow in their own version of fox mark 2. I hate re-runs and the women on fox were watchable even with the sound down. I cant say the same for Sky with the slug and that little chimp in the background.

 

[ZEV]

I just dont have the stomach for killing people, zevie....maybe its your religion that gives you that strength. As for the psych, i do tend to fail tests which determine whether i would follow orders...

Defend Markus, the aim is to defend.

I don’t think it’s your tummy that is lacking, maybe a couple of undersized reproductive organs….

Not surprised to hear failure is a recurring theme in your life. However the way you parrot on about anything that supports your narrative without a shred of critical thinking of your own suggests to me that you do crave order. You whinge and whine about everyone breaking rules, maybe you really need that sense of compliance in your life.

 

[leon123]

Defend Markus, the aim is to defend.

"satellite data analysis obtained by the BBC shows the true extent of the destruction. The analysis suggests between 144,000 and 175,000 buildings across the whole Gaza Strip have been damaged or destroyed. That's between 50% and 61% of Gaza's buildings."

Interesting defense approach - I suppose its' a technique that works, a little brutal, but end justifies the means and that, i guess

 

[Markfs]

Defend Markus, the aim is to defend.

I don’t think it’s your tummy that is lacking, maybe a couple of undersized reproductive organs….

Not surprised to hear failure is a recurring theme in your life. However the way you parrot on about anything that supports your narrative without a shred of critical thinking of your own suggests to me that you do crave order. You whinge and whine about everyone breaking rules, maybe you really need that sense of compliance in your life.

So the aim of the israelis is to defend? And I should use critical thinking? Interesting.

I sometimes wonder why you bother with me zevie, although I can see that the universe 6 months ago had very little criticism from insignificant people like myself, and it was easy to put someone back in my box with a simple accusation of anti-semitism... things are a little different now.

And yes, you're may be right. I'm may have been bullied when i was young and I wanted people to play by the rules. There is a certain symmetry to having you back in the role of bully. I noticed that your dogs were called out over the last couple of days. Maybe they can make everyone love you again like we did in the old days. I still back your mob, zevie. I honestly do. I think your "friends" are only just beginning to realise just how far the israelis are willing to take this....

 

[Markfs]

"satellite data analysis obtained by the BBC shows the true extent of the destruction. The analysis suggests between 144,000 and 175,000 buildings across the whole Gaza Strip have been damaged or destroyed. That's between 50% and 61% of Gaza's buildings."

Interesting defense approach - I suppose its' a technique that works, a little brutal, but end justifies the means and that, i guess

That 49% to 50% must be well hidden. I dont think that I've seen an untouched building in months in the videos that I have watched. Obviously, aljazeera acting for hamas. The simple answer is always the best.

 

[Markfs]

I saw in today's murdoch rag that singaporean millionaires are the biggest purchasers of australian housing.

I had a quick search on the net and found this site, which reads in part......

"Foreigners are not generally permitted to buy landed residential properties like detached houses, bungalows, or terrace houses. Government approval is needed, and that approval will only be given if the foreigner has made a strong economic contribution to Singapore, for example, through large investment."

Can foreigners own property in Singapore?

With thousands of Australian expats living and working in Singapore, we're often asked whether foreigners can own a property in Singapore. So can they?

www.expattaxes.com.au

 

[Markfs]

"So, can foreigners buy property in China? The answer is yes, foreigners are allowed to purchase property in China! The essential requirement is that you have studied or worked in China for at least one year on a residence permit. Foreigners are allowed to only own one residential property for dwelling purposes."

Firstly, it's important to know that foreigners cannot own land in Vietnam. Land in Vietnam is collectively owned by all Vietnamese people but is managed and distributed by the state. As a foreigner, you can, however, own buildings or structures on the land. This is typically done through a leasehold arrangement.

Can foreigners own freehold property in Indonesia? No, foreigners can't directly own freehold property in Indonesia as they are not eligible for the Hak Milik title. However, foreign nationals can own property under Hak Pakai, a leasehold agreement,

As things stand, the Constitution doesn't allow non-Cambodian nationals to own land or ground-floor property.

Land ownership in Thailand is governed by the Land Code Act and under Thai land laws only Thai nationals are allowed to own land or have a confirmed right of possession of land. Foreigners may not own land unless there is a treaty or exemption allowing the foreigner to own land in Thailand

I see a trend emergying....maybe we should talk to real estate brokers who make a shitload of cash from doing this...

 

[sr36]

"So, can foreigners buy property in China? The answer is yes, foreigners are allowed to purchase property in China! The essential requirement is that you have studied or worked in China for at least one year on a residence permit. Foreigners are allowed to only own one residential property for dwelling purposes."

Firstly, it's important to know that foreigners cannot own land in Vietnam. Land in Vietnam is collectively owned by all Vietnamese people but is managed and distributed by the state. As a foreigner, you can, however, own buildings or structures on the land. This is typically done through a leasehold arrangement.

Can foreigners own freehold property in Indonesia? No, foreigners can't directly own freehold property in Indonesia as they are not eligible for the Hak Milik title. However, foreign nationals can own property under Hak Pakai, a leasehold agreement,

As things stand, the Constitution doesn't allow non-Cambodian nationals to own land or ground-floor property.

Land ownership in Thailand is governed by the Land Code Act and under Thai land laws only Thai nationals are allowed to own land or have a confirmed right of possession of land. Foreigners may not own land unless there is a treaty or exemption allowing the foreigner to own land in Thailand

I see a trend emergying....maybe we should talk to real estate brokers who make a shitload of cash from doing this...

The basic rule of thumb throughput Asia is that you can buy an apartment but nothing with land attached. Seems smart to me. Won't happen here though, protecting housing price growth is a national pastime.

 

[Markfs]

The basic rule of thumb throughput Asia is that you can buy an apartment but nothing with land attached. Seems smart to me.

so smart that australia should follow the lead.....but alas we have dependants to consider

 

[Markfs]

well its been a heady few days for the israeli supporters. Just about anyone and everyone has been marched out in support of israel. The latest is John Howard who gave his empassioned support for Dutts and the cause of antisemitism.....and even had a go at all the arabs who have never done the right thing in recognising the israeli state.

Not a word about the deaths in gaza it would seem. It was a long article in the murdoch rag and they detailed every howard pronouncement, but it seems he didnt think it was worth a word to speak about the deaths in gaza....

but he is totally against anti-semitism.. lock it in johnny....

I dont know who they can wheel out next to admonish us for our shoddy treatment of the jews. Can they get robert menzies up and about for one more go?

Hopefully we can get the various arab australians to apologise for their behaviour over the last 6 months. It's now clear to me that the israeli apologists have been upset for being called murderers...Hopefully we can agree to giving them a promised land and they will forgive us. Shalom to all except those arabs..

 

[Markfs]

Worth a read. The plans for arab australians to push for their own candidates in elections, wont come to much in a two party preferential system where the two parties are supporters of israel. The US has flagged that it will go to war and we are likely to tag along....as we usually do. Maybe the rest of australia will wake up from their barbies and MAFS to find their kids going to war to defend the "freedoms" secured by the ANZACs. At some stage reality might kick in.

Wong and Dutton leave Arabic and Islamic Australians feeling abandoned

Both major parties are wildly out of step with the views of people they must woo if they want to win the next federal election.

www.afr.com

 

[JB1975]

It has been an interesting few days.

A portion of the population became aware of strange happenings in Gaza after the Australian was killed, and there is a possibility that the deaths of 13,000 children will also trouble them.

Penny Wong felt the heat, went so far as to re-state Australia's support for a two-state solution and was labelled a Hamas appeaser for confirming a longstanding policy of both sides of politics.

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Peter Dutton's intervention --to compare pro-Palestine protests in October to the Port Arthur massacre-- was one of the crudest, insensitive and braindead utterances in Australian politics.

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Gaza will never become a major voting issue in Australia, but I have a feeling (bit unscientific) that it will play a lot more than most other issues of foreign affairs.

 

[sr36]

It has been an interesting few days.

A portion of the population became aware of strange happenings in Gaza after the Australian was killed, and there is a possibility that the deaths of 13,000 children will also trouble them.

Penny Wong felt the heat, went so far as to re-state Australia's support for a two-state solution and was labelled a Hamas appeaser for confirming a longstanding policy of both sides of politics.

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Peter Dutton's intervention --to compare pro-Palestine protests in October to the Port Arthur massacre-- was one of the crudest, insensitive and braindead utterances in Australian politics.

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Gaza will never become a major voting issue in Australia, but I have a feeling (bit unscientific) that it will play a lot more than most other issues of foreign affairs.

I think Libs will shoot themselves in the footy on this one. It's not a political point scoring one for them. I don't know why they just don't keep silent.

I'm not sure which Liberal it was on the radio the other day. For some reason he decided to write off Islamophobia as not being an issue in Australian society, but anti+Semitism as being an issue. In terms of the "middle Australia" that the parties battle over, I would have thought that they were both issues, but Islamophobia much more prevalent.

 

[JB1975]

There has been a systematic and relentless attempt to discredit the work of Francesca Albanese.

None of it sticks. Her work is evidence-based and provides a clear picture of Israeli genocide.

In the meantime, Israel's encroachment on the West Bank becomes more violent.

 

[Markfs]

It has been an interesting few days.

A portion of the population became aware of strange happenings in Gaza after the Australian was killed, and there is a possibility that the deaths of 13,000 children will also trouble them.

Penny Wong felt the heat, went so far as to re-state Australia's support for a two-state solution and was labelled a Hamas appeaser for confirming a longstanding policy of both sides of politics.

------------------------------------------------

Peter Dutton's intervention --to compare pro-Palestine protests in October to the Port Arthur massacre-- was one of the crudest, insensitive and braindead utterances in Australian politics.

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Gaza will never become a major voting issue in Australia, but I have a feeling (bit unscientific) that it will play a lot more than most other issues of foreign affairs.

I think it will be localised. The response from the israeli coalition to the penny wong comment, reflects the usual strategy. It was a little surprising that the same coalition would even choose to defend the dutton comment. If I had a choice of 100 events to compare the massacre with, a protest wouldnt be on my list. It's something you might see in a foreign news article.

 

[Markfs]

I think Libs will shoot themselves in the footy on this one. It's not a political point scoring one for them. I don't know why they just don't keep silent.

I'm not sure which Liberal it was on the radio the other day. For some reason he decided to write off Islamophobia as not being an issue in Australian society, but anti+Semitism as being an issue. In terms of the "middle Australia" that the parties battle over, I would have thought that they were both issues, but Islamophobia much more prevalent.

I said at the start of this when I first started posting in this thread, that I couldnt understand why the government had to be so pro-Israeli. We've learnt a lot over the course as the pressures and alliances have become more evident. However, you have to wonder about Dutton. Does he have german or jewish roots? I say German because they took a fairly irrational position a few months back because of their guilt. Maybe Dutton has had a problem in the past with a burger joint near him. I've seen people trace their political views to relatively minor events. Maybe Dutts has experienced a bad moment with a palestianian australian voter. Maybe it's just that he has done all the figures and arab-australians are just not going to vote for him, so he has cast his lot with the jews (excuse the pun and please excuse the biblical/jewish connotations)

 

[Markfs]

Oh i forgot to say that i had a laugh reading the Tingle article where she said that the israelis have ignored the special envoy general thingy who was appointed to liaise with israelis about the murder of the aid worker. If I had friends like Israel, I'd be having lunch with Zevie...