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Wrong club. That's the sporty one.you're a master swipey....all i wanted was to be part of the guys at the carbine club but i just didnt come up to your standards..
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Wrong club. That's the sporty one.you're a master swipey....all i wanted was to be part of the guys at the carbine club but i just didnt come up to your standards..
Not particularly, just the usual standard.Are you being particularly thick?
Post www2 stuff is just mentioned to suggest that they changed approach post ww2, as they felt the harshness of Versailles had helped to contribute to the rise of Nazis.
Are you being particularly thick?
Post www2 stuff is just mentioned to suggest that they changed approach post ww2, as they felt the harshness of Versailles had helped to contribute to the rise of Nazis - it's adding credibility to your crout lecturers theory.
I have a question to the smart people here because I cant work it out....
I was baptised a roman catholic and went to their schools but I never believed in it. I stopped going to mass when i reached my teens and I didnt have to go in the car with my parents...
Now I'm an atheist/agnostic depending on your argument. I certainly think that the concept of jesus being a god is beyond a party trick
so am I still a roman catholic? Would the pope consider me a roman catholic?
You're whatever you want to be called Markymark.
You've got the shared cultural experiences of Catholicism- so you're Catholic if you want to be, or you can focus on the belief aspect and then you're not.
Vatican 2 made Catholicism a spectrum - with lesser and greater connection to the church, rather than a binary condition. Pope probably views you as Catholic with a low connection - he's praying for you.
Culture, ancestry and belief are all factors in who we are and how we define and categorise ourselves and others.so if i call myself a catholic then i'm a catholic...even if i'm agnostic
how about if i wasn't even raised as a catholic, and didnt go to communion and confession and never went to church...you could probably argue then that I haven't had cultural experiences...
what if i was just relying on my grandparents being catholic...that seems a pretty tenuous link
Culture, ancestry and belief are all factors in who we are and how we define and categorise ourselves and others.
Is this a segue to question the legitimacy of the Jewish diaspora?
Not if they read this threadwell in part...because i was reading about zac efron and his movie with kidman...and i was just wondering if i could go to the world as jewish if my ancestry uncovered one...
Not if they read this thread
im just looking for ways to make a late entrance into movies...
It’s always there isn’t it? Just below the surface. Your use of ellipses, as if suggesting there is something more to say, is pretty soft.
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I would reckon you are a mad Mick. Believing is optional. If fact every regular poster here seems to have a dose of mad Mick. Mum was 1 of 11 and I can picture each of you as a family character. Catholic and mad. Its not a bad combo.I have a question to the smart people here because I cant work it out....
I was baptised a roman catholic and went to their schools but I never believed in it. I stopped going to mass when i reached my teens and I didnt have to go in the car with my parents...
Now I'm an atheist/agnostic depending on your argument. I certainly think that the concept of jesus being a god is beyond a party trick
so am I still a roman catholic? Would the pope consider me a roman catholic?
I would reckon you are a mad Mick. Believing is optional. If fact every regular poster here seems to have a dose of mad Mick. Mum was 1 of 11 and I can picture each of you as a family character. Catholic and mad. Its not a bad combo.
well i'm not denying the psychological damage that the catholic church did to me, but i never actually prayed to god...not even when i was a child so dont really associate myself with being a mad mick or any of the other labels that I've got in the last 9 months.
Zac Enfron, of course, is on the other side of the ledger. Apparently, he's agnostic. His parents brought him up as an agnostic....
and then he looks back at his grandparents and says that he's jewish. The only conclusion that I can make is that he wanted to be in movies. I cant think of another reason. And I must admit that i'm no expert in zac efron but apparently he's still an agnostic and calls himself jewish.
It might have cultural meaning as well as religious meaning to Zac.
As a teenager, I didn't always embrace my parent's heritage.
yeh but it seems his parents brought him up as agnostic....I see what you're saying and there might be some quirky thing that happened to him with reference to his grandparents.
As i understand it, he started out as a teen on disney. Maybe all the people around him was jewish and he wanted to fit in. That seems pretty logical.
FFS. Why don't you bump an old Adam Goodes thread and question his Aboriginality - that's where you're currently at with Jewish.
Its a friendly label Mad Mick. A cultural Mick if you grew up in that community it influences you like any community does. I have Jewish friends who strongly differentiate cultural from religious Jew. Whether you prayed or no hardly matters I reckon.well i'm not denying the psychological damage that the catholic church did to me, but i never actually prayed to god...not even when i was a child so dont really associate myself with being a mad mick or any of the other labels that I've got in the last 9 months.
Zac Enfron, of course, is on the other side of the ledger. Apparently, he's agnostic. His parents brought him up as an agnostic....
and then he looks back at his grandparents and says that he's jewish. The only conclusion that I can make is that he wanted to be in movies. I cant think of another reason. And I must admit that i'm no expert in zac efron but apparently he's still an agnostic and calls himself jewish.
Its a friendly label Mad Mick. A cultural Mick if you grew up in that community it influences you like any community does. I have Jewish friends who strongly differentiate cultural from religious Jew. Whether you prayed or no hardly matters I reckon.