That's right we should learn the rules. But then again we are premiers and who gives a stuff!
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That's right we should learn the rules. But then again we are premiers and who gives a stuff!
Yeah it's called pressure. And Mooney's two goals out his a### counter the easy ones missed. Hawks were too good on the day that's the beauty of football
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Geelong really did have their chances, but they blew them. I put alot of their bad kicking on the pressure they were under to go back to back, would have done them the world of good to lose a game (or more) in the last couple of rounds.
In saying that, its possible they crumbled under the Hawks constant pressure, as they havent been tested like that all year.
Either way what does it really matter?
In saying that, its possible they crumbled under the Hawks constant pressure, as they havent been tested like that all year.
Either way what does it really matter?
At the end of the day only one thing matters. WE WON THE FLAG. You can try and devalue it all you want, but its still going to always say Hawthorn. 83 years in the comp, 10 premierships, all in the last 50 years. We definatly are a happy team at Hawthorn. Stuff discussing all this crap, lets celebrate, then next March start all over again and try and win another one.
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I keep reading about Geelong 'kicking themselves out of it', or 'if they had of kicked straight they would have won it' blah blah blah
Hawthorn - 18 goals 7 behinds (TOTAL 25 shots at goal)
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Geelong - 11 goals 12 behinds (TOTAL 23 shots at goal) (+11 rushed behinds)
Also Interesting that all year people have been saying that Buddy's goalkicking inaccuracy could cost Hawks a flag
Great post one of the best stats ive seen all year!!
Interesting read through this thread... now, how long before we can start calling Hawks fans arrogant?
I don't care how many shots at goal Geelong missed or how many rushed behinds Hawthorn made. All it proves is that the Hawks skills and efficiency under pressure were better on the day as were their decisions deep in defence. You display better finishing skills, make better decisions and handle the pressure better, well, that makes you a better football team.
There was no way known this was over at 3/4 time. The Cats had kicked the last two and were only 17 points behind. There was talk where I was sitting of "Can we hang on?" or "Will they make a charge?" There was never any talk of "We've got this in the bag."
Seeing Buddy step up and get one at the beginning of the 4th was great considering he had an ordinary day until then.
The main thing that won it for the Hawks was their solid decision making (including all the rushed behinds) compared to Geelong's poor decisions when entering the forward 50. This can be attributed to the pressure the Hawks applied.
Either way I was very happy to have watched it live and sad I had to fly back to Perth on the Sat night.
Let us all hope that we have a true All-Victorian Grand Final this time (remember, the Hawks have partially sold themselves interstate, currently sitting at around 20% Tasmanian). Hopefully they move there fulltime in the near future. The Cats, well, we have no need to fall to such low pitiful levels. The land of 2-heads should be enough to support their rapid growing egos!
Lucky the Hawks were wearing Brown shorts - for 11 rushed behinds = alot of crappy pants. To rush this many means they were too unrattled, Cats just didn't make it count!
Lucky the Hawks were wearing Brown shorts - for 11 rushed behinds = alot of crappy pants. To rush this many means they were too unrattled, Cats just didn't make it count!
and they wonder why people have said Cats fans are arrogant. Rushed behinds = keep possession and look for a better option.
Our sponsorship deal has seen us set up well for the future. Surely you don't begrudge us that?
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Hahaha. Bitter much?
Geelong is out in the sticks in case you didn't realise - Melbourne teams don't really include Geelong
I said All-Victorian numb-nuts. Last I looked, Geelong was in Victoria.
Get out your Atlas and check it out. Though it ain't "long" enough away.
Glad to have touched sooooo many hawks fans - the family club!
Let's all just wait until 09'.
Get out your Atlas and check it out. Though it ain't "long" enough away.
Glad to have touched sooooo many hawks fans - the family club!
Let's all just wait until 09'.
One could argue that rushed behinds come from forward pressure (and tremendous implementation of zone). Fact was Cats forward pressure (and zone implementation) was probably greater than hawks for at least the first half and large portions of the second half which resulted in hawks having to repeatedly seek alternative ways forward which necessitated rushing behinds in order to start again.
But hey, whichever way you argue it isn't going to change the result. At the end of the day Hawthorn are 2008 premiers. Congrats hawkers. Move on cat fans.
But hey, whichever way you argue it isn't going to change the result. At the end of the day Hawthorn are 2008 premiers. Congrats hawkers. Move on cat fans.
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everyone shhhhhhh.
Like 90% of Cats supporters have said, they did everything they had to do to win the game, inside 50's, clearances, everything you could want, but we just got to take the cup and the medals with us!!
Like 90% of Cats supporters have said, they did everything they had to do to win the game, inside 50's, clearances, everything you could want, but we just got to take the cup and the medals with us!!
Interesting.
And for further interests sake: in the 2007 Grand Final, Geelong FC conceded ZERO rushed behinds. That's right, they didn't run the ball through their opponents goals ONCE, let alone ELEVEN times.
Just thought y'all might be interested...
The cats really only out-played us in the second quarter.
The other three quarters we either drew even or raced ahead.
I was really happy with our first quarter - Geelong went into the break up by a couple of points but I think they had 3 goal assists from the umpires and we had Browny's kick disallowed.
The second quarter Geelong were all over us but butchered their inside fifties, meaning most shots on goal were under a LOT of pressure. 2 ridiculous misses from Geelong meant they didn't capitalise.
Third quarter the hawks opened up the forward line with Dew and Rioli up there to create mismatches and it worked bloody well. 2 late goals to Geelong kept them in it with a sniff.
Last quarter Buddy sealed it and Geelong never played with enough desperation to close in on us.
So what's all this about Geelong losing it rather than Hawthorn winning it? You gotta dominate more than one quarter of footy to win a game!
The other three quarters we either drew even or raced ahead.
I was really happy with our first quarter - Geelong went into the break up by a couple of points but I think they had 3 goal assists from the umpires and we had Browny's kick disallowed.
The second quarter Geelong were all over us but butchered their inside fifties, meaning most shots on goal were under a LOT of pressure. 2 ridiculous misses from Geelong meant they didn't capitalise.
Third quarter the hawks opened up the forward line with Dew and Rioli up there to create mismatches and it worked bloody well. 2 late goals to Geelong kept them in it with a sniff.
Last quarter Buddy sealed it and Geelong never played with enough desperation to close in on us.
So what's all this about Geelong losing it rather than Hawthorn winning it? You gotta dominate more than one quarter of footy to win a game!
Now you've let off all that steam you ought to calm down before you head for a serious bout of depression. Geelong are a good team and have won you a premiership. That's a lot more that can be said for many teams including the Hawks, until recently.
There's a fair chance they'll still be playing good footy for a couple of years so why not relax and enjoy it.
Interesting.
And for further interests sake: in the 2007 Grand Final, Geelong FC conceded ZERO rushed behinds. That's right, they didn't run the ball through their opponents goals ONCE, let alone ELEVEN times.
Just thought y'all might be interested...
So you got 11 points for nothing.
Therefore the REAL margin was around 40 points.
Just thought y'all might be interested....
But seriously - why have people seemingly forgotten that every time the hawks rushed a behind Geelong's score went up?
For the majority of the year, one quarter (or part thereof) was clearly enough to blow away most of the opposition teams - refer especially to first half of the year. Perhaps this was Geelong's problem - relying to much on small bursts of brialliance (especially in a big game). Hopefully this will be a great kick up the bum for 2009. Looking forward to it - especially to see how Hawthorn follow-on from 08'.
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