Is Labor really centre left ?
Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-
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Now you’re never gonna get us to vote for you if you continue to sneer at our ‘wealth’ while having one of the richest ever party leaders in Dutton.
Does he ‘lunch’?
Are you seeing how your disassociated campaigns make you look fractured?
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I think so, they have a lot of room to move further left and they've done a lot of favors for big business by keeping the demand base growing the last two years.
The crack in Albo's arse is certainly for sitting on the fence.
Not as much as McGowan's ALP party was, that's the closest thing to a centre right wing party as you'll see under an ALP flag.
This right here is the kind of nonsense that leads to people being mean to you.
Not because you're disagreeing on substance and providing good counter-points.
Just empty, schoolyard-level posting like this.
Grow up.
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- Kidding, right?
Sorry, that is a profoundly stupid comment.
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Hawke-Keating?
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Yes, those too ignorant to understand the science.
‘They say the climate is warming so why is it raining outside’
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Not really, maybe in some token ways.
Neither major party is particularly 'progressive', Dutton is more your American style conservative, Turnbull probably should have been an ALP PM.
The socially progressive stuff the ALP does is generally stuff that's already well publicly supported, and they're not really running an economically progressive agenda IMO.
Greens are progressive, but not as radically so as the Murdoch media would have most believe. If you disconnected Greens policies from the Greens Party name, I suspect there's a significant amount of people who'd be onboard with a lot of it.
I suspect the opposite applies to LNP policies, where there's simply a lot of entrenched 'team' support but not a lot of actual specific support for their policies.
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Yes, those too ignorant to understand the science.
‘They say the climate is warming so why is it raining outside’
How climate change worsens heatwaves, droughts, wildfires and floods
Floods and other extreme weather events are happening more often because of climate change.
www.bbc.com
Thanks BBC!
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The most successful recent state ALP govts have been centre right economically, but quite progressive socially
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Pity it's the economically progressive stuff that's desperately needed for most people.
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Nonsense. I have plenty to criticise Albanese about, but he has done a much better job of keeping both sides onside than Dutton, who just threw in his lot automatically with Israel.
Which ones?
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Why do you think he would make a comment like that?
He doesn't know who they are yet, as he doesn't know if they're citizens or not.
So why would he make a comment like that, that would so heavily imply that the criminals are 'immigrants'... And if you're honest you'd admit you're thinking Arab.
Other than a dog whistle, why would Dutton bring visas into the discussion?
Now be honest here.
1. Who is the "them" you are referring to?
2. Do you believe that 'left wing' parties 'import' 'illegal immigrants' for votes?
No, Australia would be one centre-right (Coalition, though the current leader flirts with the radical right) and one centre (Labor). No other party has a significant number of lower house seats, which is the criteria I was using. The Greens' four seats doesn't make them a major player. And calling them far left is silly, they don't want to end capitalism or change the entire system of government like Melenchon does.
The fact is they still need to form Coalitions to get power. Which mean the minor parties in any coalition have to bend to the will of the majority partner.
What defines radical-right btw?
FFS - enough with the radical right business. Can you at least define what that is and its point of difference to a centre-right party.
Labor is not Centre. They are Left. There are factions within Labor who are right leaning and others who are more left leaning. Ditto the Liberal Party but on the other side.
Nobody in the Labor Party would call themselves a Centrist Party. The only ones who tend to do this are Greens to make themselves feel better.
Wrong. Any other party is free to offer a deal, and any party can pull the plug. If one party tries to strongarm another, the deal doesn't get made, or the government collapses. It forces parties to negotiate in good faith if they want stability in power.
Embracing xenophobia.
If you were patient, you'd have seen my response above! The radical right are nativists embracing xenophobia. They paint those of the majority group as the "real" people of that country and immigrants as an "other". They win votes by dividing the people into "us" and "them" on racial, ethnic, or religious grounds.
The ideology of individual Labor Party MPs is irrelevant, because they all have to vote the same way in parliament. The way they've performed in government isn't leftist at all. They've failed to increase welfare payments in real terms, only by the mandatory indexation. They've failed to seriously intervene in the housing market to ensure affordability. They've failed to embrace any sort of price fixing of consumer goods. These would all be leftist solutions to the problems Australia faces.
And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea calls themselves Democratic and a Republic.
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
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It's just going to be a bullshit cat and mouse around semantics.
Dutton has never been found guilty in a court of law of being xenophobic. He has never stated he is xenophobic. So how can you say that he is xenophobic? Can you read his mind?
Then you'll give examples of Dutton or the Coalition etc. For example, his reference to deporting protestors.
How is this xenophobic? What part do you disagree with? And then it's back to court of law balah blah
This poster is just here to flood the zone with shit. Post misinformation and muddy everything up.
Caught in one lie, use another lie to cover that lie and add another lie about something new.
Mouthpiece.
You must be living in some sort of utopia if you think that's what happens in real life.
Your definition of 'radical right' is laughable. That could mean anything.
