Apple Isle Showdown: Tas Govt threatens to end Hawks, North deals if no plan for 19th side

[Rich01]

North and Hawthorn look likely to be in a world of financial hurt if Tassie follows through at the end of their current contracts.

More concerned about North though. They are already running on fumes.

 

[Walshawk]

they had more important things to worry about then to read a report 12 months ago. Like organising hubs , keeping players safe, making sure the season still want ahead because of Covid-19

The season ended four months ago. Plenty of time

 

[perplexed]

The University of Tasmania has been around since 1890 and has over 40,000 students. Hobart is a pretty vibrant little place and offers an amazing lifestyle.

Yes you won’t get to do blow off t***ies at fancy nightclubs in Melbourne but elite players don’t get away with that these days anyway.

As a location for an elite sports team I think it would be great, and the players would be exceptionally well looked after.

Utas doesnt have that many students, but anyway, I like Hobart. It's just no place to spend your youth if you have a choice. Which is why everyone leaves as soon as they can. Fix this and you oldies may get a team to barrack for.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Utas doesnt have that many students, but anyway, I like Hobart. It's just no place to spend your youth if you have a choice. Which is why everyone leaves as soon as they can. Fix this and you oldies may get a team to barrack for.

Fix it how? Add more bars and clubs and restaurants?

 

[Walshawk]

Utas doesnt have that many students, but anyway, I like Hobart. It's just no place to spend your youth if you have a choice. Which is why everyone leaves as soon as they can. Fix this and you oldies may get a team to barrack for.

Actually the Uni does have nearly 40k student across four campuses including one in Sydney. Perhaps 15k in Hobart?

 

[Walshawk]

Fix it how? Add more bars and clubs and restaurants?

Players rarely go to bars and clubs these days anyway. Those days are gone. Retention is about the club’s culture and success. Hobart is a great city. Much better than Geelong or the Gold Coast (unless you surf). This is a non-issue for any new club.

 

[perplexed]

Fix it how? Add more bars and clubs and restaurants?

My suggestion was investing in a major uni, but I'm sure smarter people will have better ideas.

 

[Walshawk]

The Tas Premier should come out even stronger.
‘If a Tasmanian team is not included within five years, there will be no further government funding for FIFO games’.
Start taking with Melbourne Storm. They will move a game for a packet of chips and a half eaten sausage roll.

 

[perplexed]

Players rarely go to bars and clubs these days anyway. Those days are gone. Retention is about the club’s culture and success. Hobart is a great city. Much better than Geelong or the Gold Coast (unless you surf). This is a non-issue for any new club.

It is a major issue for GC and the Adelaide teams. It would be a much bigger issue for a Tassie team.

 

[Walshawk]

It is a major issue for GC and the Adelaide teams. It would be a much bigger issue for a Tassie team.

Why?

 

[the big lebowski]

Yes you won’t get to do blow off t***ies at fancy nightclubs in Melbourne

Well what’s the point then?

 

[Walshawk]

The only reasons I have heard for players wanting to leave the GC is that the club culture is crap, and they they wanted to be play in front of full stadiums and live where there is a footy culture. Tasmania will have none of those problems.

 

[perplexed]

Why?

Coz young people like being around other young people.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

The Tas Premier should come out even stronger.
‘If a Tasmanian team is not included within five years, there will be no further government funding for FIFO games’.
Start taking with Melbourne Storm. They will move a game for a packet of chips and a half eaten sausage roll.

Having no government funding should be a priority. If there is to be a team it needs to stand commercially, showing that the part-timers can be funded that way would be a step to proving a case.
If all the talk of the money games brings in is true, and not just the usual government spin, the the big tourist operators like Federal group (hotel, resort, and monopoly casino and pokie operators) will fill the gap by increasing sponsorship to avoid missing all the revenue.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Coz young people like being around other young people.

The Gold Coast has plenty of young people. As does Brisbane, and yet all the good players used to leave us, but they don't anymore. The city didn't change in that time, it's culture and coaching that changed.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

The Gold Coast has plenty of young people. As does Brisbane, and yet all the good players used to leave us, but they don't anymore. The city didn't change in that time, it's culture and coaching that changed.

Exactly, no matter where the team is based city-wise if it is interstate or in Victoria itself, if the culture & coaching isn't great and player/team performances are down as a result of that, players will want to move elsewhere to another club with excellent on-field/off-field culture & coaching to help improve their overall performance just like how Brisbane has turned around these past 5 years in particular and now our a premiership contender this year as a result.

You just have to find the right people to help build that culture of growth mindset on the field and off the field as well for the players/coaching staff. Then you can worry about what players you need in your squad to improve your overall position on the ladder, via trade or draft periods.

It's as simple as that really in the modern world of the AFL.

 

[Great8]

Fix it how? Add more bars and clubs and restaurants?

Hobart has triple the cafes per capita than Melbourne. Real nice growing restaurant and bar scene down there too.
Think Tassie gets a bit of a rough ride from the knockers.
They are absolutely deserving of their own AFL side and hopefully it happens

 

[Papa G]

It is a major issue for GC and the Adelaide teams. It would be a much bigger issue for a Tassie team.

Port haven't lost a required player since Nick Stevens in 2003. You clearly have NFI what you are talking about.

 

[perplexed]

Exactly, no matter where the team is based city-wise if it is interstate or in Victoria itself, if the culture & coaching isn't great and player/team performances are down as a result of that, players will want to move elsewhere to another club......

It's as simple as that really.

North haven't had any success for twenty years and been mostly coached by clowns and charlatans in that time. Yet we haven't had a significant player want to leave since Josh Gibson.
GC seem to be patting themselves on the back for going one or two years without one.

 

[perplexed]

Port haven't lost a required player since Nick Stevens in 2003. You clearly have NFI what you are talking about.

Your neighbours haven't had quite the same run.

 

[Dockeroo]

Some of the nonsense talked about weather on this thread is quite incredible. You’d swear we were talking about Antartica the way some people are going on. Have you ever watched American NFL or soccer in Europe in winter?
it’s a total red herring.
The reality is that Gill is stalling on this because he has no interest. Covid 19 has had few positives but one positive of the pandemic for the AFL is they can kick the Tasmanian team issue down the road for a few years and hide behind the issue of Covid and finances. I really hope the Tas premier follows through and pulls their support for Hawks and North.
It’s an absolute disgrace that there is no AFL team in the state.

 

[Papa G]

Your neighbours haven't had quite the same run.

Shit culture.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

North haven't had any success for twenty years and been mostly coached by clowns and charlatans in that time. Yet we haven't had a significant player want to leave since Josh Gibson.

You haven't had many significant players at all since Josh Gibson. I would say making prelims counts as a success though, which has happened at least twice in the past twenty years, as is making finals at least three years in a row. You know your club better than I do, but from an external perspective the culture only seems to have been subpar since about 2017.

GC seem to be patting themselves on the back for going one or two years without one.

All success is relative.

 

[Bicco]

they had more important things to worry about then to read a report 12 months ago. Like organising hubs , keeping players safe, making sure the season still want ahead because of Covid-19

The AFL aren't even going to read the report now. They're getting a consultant, as yet unnamed, to do it. So your point is mute.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Bit of white anting by the saints?
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/02/18/st-kilda-hold-talks-to-play-games-in-tasmania/