Apples' Training Reports

[jackcass]

Yeah I see the back half at present as;

B Scharenberg - Dunn - Goldsack
HB Crisp - Moore - Howe

I think Varcoe is going forward as of his recent comments. For mine if Murray gets a good body of training in the next 2 months he is in for mine as the club are desperate for that speed and spent big to get him. I saw him a couple of times when he transitioned to the back half and he was super impressive. His junior days were as a small forward and thats where he started for them in the NEAFL but when Rhyce switched him back it worked well. I am confident but that could be optimistic. For mine Langdon spot is taken by Goldsack and Scharenberg but I have them ahead.

While we all have high hopes for Scharenberg and I think he could ultimately have a higher ceiling, it's a bit of a stretch to say he's surpassed Langdon already.

 

[jonbe54]

Correction his junior days were spent as a midfielder as was his first year of senior footy
3rd in morish medal ( o&m seniors b/f)
Spent big , hmm won't know cost till next years draft , could be same as tyler

You don't get the line shattering pace from defense that has the potential to put the put the opposition defense under pressure by paying peanuts.
Clubs take risks all the time at the draft table, this is one of them.

 

[left at home]

Yeah I see the back half at present as;

B Scharenberg - Dunn - Goldsack
HB Crisp - Moore - Howe

I think Varcoe is going forward as of his recent comments. For mine if Murray gets a good body of training in the next 2 months he is in for mine as the club are desperate for that speed and spent big to get him. I saw him a couple of times when he transitioned to the back half and he was super impressive. His junior days were as a small forward and thats where he started for them in the NEAFL but when Rhyce switched him back it worked well. I am confident but that could be optimistic. For mine Langdon spot is taken by Goldsack and Scharenberg but I have them ahead.

Langdon will be pick before shaz yet, runs on the board so to speak

 

[jmac70]

While we all have high hopes for Scharenberg and I think he could ultimately have a higher ceiling, it's a bit of a stretch to say he's surpassed Langdon already.

Preseason form will decide who takes that spot.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Langdon will be pick before shaz yet, runs on the board so to speak

Why not both?

 

[left at home]

Why not both?

Could if goldy plays more forward, but l like goldy speed down back.
This year shaz has to take the game on more through his kicking and be better one on one.

 

[Gone Critical]

Yeah I see the back half at present as;

B Scharenberg - Dunn - Goldsack
HB Crisp - Moore - Howe

I think Varcoe is going forward as of his recent comments. For mine if Murray gets a good body of training in the next 2 months he is in for mine as the club are desperate for that speed and spent big to get him. I saw him a couple of times when he transitioned to the back half and he was super impressive. His junior days were as a small forward and thats where he started for them in the NEAFL but when Rhyce switched him back it worked well. I am confident but that could be optimistic. For mine Langdon spot is taken by Goldsack and Scharenberg but I have them ahead.

Thanks Snoop. Of all the things I have read about Murray since he popped up on the Collingwood radar I found your sentence "I saw him a couple of times when he transitioned to the back half and he was super impressive" the most reassuring I have heard about him. Given few of have seen anything other than highlights and with your knowledge base around the junior leagues that's great news.

Still I suspect it will be more than just a solid body of training that will be required for him to see round 1 selection. Without any senior form to fall back on surely it will be if he gets a game in the two JLT matches and how he goes there that will determine his fate for the first round.

As to Shaz Langdon I currently fall to the Langdon side of the debate. Hopefully Shaz can really step it up this year but I think at times Langdon position is underrated here on BF. Given he was voted by the playing group into the young leadership group along with Moore, Treloar, Maynard, Grundy and Elliott gives a pretty good indication of where he stands. Think they see him pretty locked into the 22 which makes sense to me.

Lynden Dunn being named in the leadership group of 5 is a great endorsement also. Turning into an inspired choice which I will happily say I didn't pick.

 

[Finnishpie]

Yeah I see the back half at present as;

B Scharenberg - Dunn - Goldsack
HB Crisp - Moore - Howe

I think Varcoe is going forward as of his recent comments. For mine if Murray gets a good body of training in the next 2 months he is in for mine as the club are desperate for that speed and spent big to get him. I saw him a couple of times when he transitioned to the back half and he was super impressive. His junior days were as a small forward and thats where he started for them in the NEAFL but when Rhyce switched him back it worked well. I am confident but that could be optimistic. For mine Langdon spot is taken by Goldsack and Scharenberg but I have them ahead.

That is too tall. Each of these are at least medium sized. Who plays on a Rioli? Or really 5 of the 6 Tiger forwards? All of which were small and fast.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

That is too tall. Each of these are at least medium sized. Who plays on a Rioli? Or really 5 of the 6 Tiger forwards? All of which were small and fast.

I think the suggestion is that Murray plays the role. If not him then Appleby, but Appleby could be years away from grabbing a spot.

 

[Dynamics]

I think our recruiting over the off-season was more a reflection of what was available than list needs. I also think the club is bullish at making a play for Tom Lynch this year, and there are better KPP's in this draft.

Most clubs take best available with a top 10 pick, and then needs after that. Nathan Murphy was too good to pass up, and we had committed to Tyler Brown. We recruited a few mid sized defenders to sure up the defence in the rookie draft, so that's a reflection we will a bit light on in our defensive stocks.

I think at full strength we are ok for KPP's. The issue is if injury occurs, and also we are assuming Mason Cox can fit in. It would also help if McLarty break through as that allows Reid and Moore to play forward.

I'd be pretty shocked if we didn't address KPP stocks next off-season.

FWIW, Richmond may have been short up forward, but had 4 tall defenders down back. Adelaide has 4 key forwards (Lynch, Walker, Jenkins and McGovern), and had at least 3 key defenders. Sydney won something like 14 of its last 15 games with Franklin, Reid and Sinclair/Tippett up forward.

So I think this notion that teams are going shorter is misconceived.

Richmond were also canny enough (and had the advantage of just winning a flag) to take a chance on Balta at 25. He may well be a bust but if he manages to maximise potential he provides another quality tall and could play forward or back. He's been told he's initially playing forward apparently, so they may see him as a potential partner/replacement for Riewoldt.

 

[jackcass]

Preseason form will decide who takes that spot.

I would hope so but I'd assume that defence was based on historical performances and Langdon still gets the nod based on 2017 form.

 

[neilk]

That is too tall. Each of these are at least medium sized. Who plays on a Rioli? Or really 5 of the 6 Tiger forwards? All of which were small and fast.

Selection will usually be a "horses for courses" process and who we select for Richmond will likely be different to who we select against Adelaide.

 

[durrrrrrr]

Hey Guys, I'm just curious as to where you think Scott Pendlebury will be spending most of his time playing this year. Is he likely to be predominantly in the midfield or do you think a move onto the half back line is on the cards? Not asking for Fantasy Footy purposes just genuinely interested seeing as you have the likes of JDG and Maynard ready to push into the midfield.

 

[Mooresome]

Hey Guys, I'm just curious as to where you think Scott Pendlebury will be spending most of his time playing this year. Is he likely to be predominantly in the midfield or do you think a move onto the half back line is on the cards? Not asking for Fantasy Footy purposes just genuinely interested seeing as you have the likes of JDG and Maynard ready to push into the midfield.

Prefer he went forward than back

 

[Nuffsaid]

Hey Guys, I'm just curious as to where you think Scott Pendlebury will be spending most of his time playing this year. Is he likely to be predominantly in the midfield or do you think a move onto the half back line is on the cards? Not asking for Fantasy Footy purposes just genuinely interested seeing as you have the likes of JDG and Maynard ready to push into the midfield.

Midfield unless he’s carrying an injury.

 

[Hong Kong Pie]

Yep, unless there is some special circumstances or reasons i see Pendles really playing most of his time in the midfield. His experience, skills and leadership are best used there for mine.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Q: Best player?
A: Pendlebury.

Play him where best for team, and in the middle he cuts them up 1,000 ways.
Still the very best.

(Secretly* awaiting the fully fit Wells to double the sublime talent.)



* may not be that secretly when it comes to my views on Wells

 

[Finnishpie]

I think the suggestion is that Murray plays the role. If not him then Appleby, but Appleby could be years away from grabbing a spot.

Murray is hardly a walk up though. He might not even get a game.

 

[Finnishpie]

Hey Guys, I'm just curious as to where you think Scott Pendlebury will be spending most of his time playing this year. Is he likely to be predominantly in the midfield or do you think a move onto the half back line is on the cards? Not asking for Fantasy Footy purposes just genuinely interested seeing as you have the likes of JDG and Maynard ready to push into the midfield.

I think he’ll move around- mid, forward and back.

 

[Apex36]

Prefer he went forward than back

I wouldn’t. He’s a pretty average forward tbh.

 

[sr36]

Could if goldy plays more forward, but l like goldy speed down back.
This year shaz has to take the game on more through his kicking and be better one on one.

And hit a few contests hard.

 

[sr36]

Hey Guys, I'm just curious as to where you think Scott Pendlebury will be spending most of his time playing this year. Is he likely to be predominantly in the midfield or do you think a move onto the half back line is on the cards? Not asking for Fantasy Footy purposes just genuinely interested seeing as you have the likes of JDG and Maynard ready to push into the midfield.

Midfield. He's a great midfielder, but not a great forward or defender. He could play defence, but it would not be as an accountable defender, more a midfielder who starts behind the ball.

 

[left at home]

And hit a few contests hard.

Yep that as well

 

[Jelly Bean]

Mods or Mazzarjo - is it possible to create new threads for each new training report, rather than bundling them all into the one? I find I am always having to look through the thread each time (and often it is just discussions about players, etc) to find a training report that may or may not actually be there...

I love the training reports (they are fantastic!), and don't want to miss them when posted because I couldn't find it from wading through bundles of comments less relevant.

Thanks!

 

[Snoop Dog]

That is too tall. Each of these are at least medium sized. Who plays on a Rioli? Or really 5 of the 6 Tiger forwards? All of which were small and fast.

Other than murray we don’t have one and I’m not inclined to put him in without having seen him in that role with us. I’ve seen a bit of him at NEAFL level and for mine he ain’t a walk up start.