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Opinion Are the Demons heading for finals or bottom 10 in 2025?
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Not overreacting is.
It's one cracked rib. I'll treat it in isolation to his previous injury, which he'd fully recovered from.
Or is that too much common sense ?
What did you think you were reading ?
It's an evaluation between Gawn and Marshall and their respective worthiness as an AA recipient in the ruck ?
Ladder position wasn't mentioned.
Do you just post for the sake of posting ?
I'd rather hear you elaborating on all of the reasons the Demons are headed for top 4.
It's a far more relevant topic than whether Marshall is a good tap ruckman.
You obviously need a bit of guidance to stop you simply gushing over how good Gawn is - that isn't where improvement is going to come from in 2025.
It was a separate discussion regarding Gawn and Marshall brought up by another poster, i.e. not me. You're now criticizing me for responding to said poster.
You'd know this if you had any semblance of comprehension.
I'm helping you get back on topic now - a 10 page discussion on Rowan Marshall's all round game isn't needed in this thread. There's been many posts questioning Melbourne's inevitable rise to top 4 in 2025, so now it's time to deal with those. That is, if you have any semblance of comprehension.
You seem to have Kevin Rudd's attention deficit syndrome. Post your own thoughts rather than salivating over mine.
There's no ''inevitability'' about Melbourne returning to top 4 and if you believe Bigfooty's sheep we'll be bottom 4.
I've already given my reasons for optimism.
Salivating? You're one weird unit.
Really all you've said is "our former AA level players will return to their best and everyone is an idiot for thinking Melbourne could continue to stall". As much as it makes you feel like a big man labelling everyone unintelligent and coming up with unbelievably cringeworthy put downs, it reeks of insecurity.
Melbourne's defence and midfield aren't what they once were and their forward line still hasn't lifted to the required standard. The trajectory doesn't fit with a slingshot to top 4 and potential premiers in 2025, but this is that time of year where a few supporters embrace being completely delusional. I'm all here for it.
Getting expectations too high is only going to make you lash out even more later though.
At least I finally stopped you crafting 30 essays about Rowan Marshall in a thread about where Melbourne will finish. Happy to help you out again if you stray off topic later.
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Sydney, Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, GWS, Port will all be better than them.
They could sit in the same rung as Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn fighting for a spot to jump into the eight.
But more likely they are around the mark of the next tier of clubs in Gold Coast, St Kilda and Essendon.
Only a disastrous year would see them finishing in the lowest rungs of the ladder with Adelaide, North, West Coast and Richmond.
I’d have them finishing 9th-14th.
They could sit in the same rung as Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn fighting for a spot to jump into the eight.
But more likely they are around the mark of the next tier of clubs in Gold Coast, St Kilda and Essendon.
Only a disastrous year would see them finishing in the lowest rungs of the ladder with Adelaide, North, West Coast and Richmond.
I’d have them finishing 9th-14th.
No wonder you have double my posts in less than half the time. You post meaningless nonsense.
We'll see whose crystal ball is better in due course.
Oh wow, post metrics! What a sick burn. Anything else you can drag out of your bag of lame tricks?
Bolded is complete projection. If someone shouts too loudly that everybody else is a moron (61 morons to 8 geniuses by your count, according to the poll), there's a good chance they don't have a lot of mental faculty themselves.
Now that your extended meltdown appears to be coming to a close, we can let the adults discuss Melbourne's prospects for 2025.
Good riddance.
- Apr 18, 2005
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Gawn was an AA in 2024. Don’t think Oliver is a question mark. Petracca will be fine. Got a broken rib again but that’ll heal quickly.
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He isn’t wrong by labelling posters dullards. A cracked rib is ok.
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Gawn
Petracca
Oliver
Lever
May
Fritsch
Pickett
Viney
All match winners or excellent players and proven so. Not done yet.
Rivers
Langdon
Windsor
Petty
McDonald
Sparrow
Turner
Van Rooyen
A second tier group capable of being incredibly supportive to the stars if and when the coaching and game plan is set correctly.
Honestly, it’s coming down to the coaches this year. List is still there.
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its all well and good to talk about the stars on melbourne's list but i dont think most people who feel that melbourne will continue to struggle in 2025 have the cattle as the main issue (although the likes of gawn, may and viney are getting on).
the game has completely gone past goodwin's gameplan. 'contest defence' only gets you so far, and last year saw a melbourne side that not only struggled to score most weeks but increasingly got opened up defensively. why not actually put some emphasis on quick ball movement and let the likes of petracca, fritsch and pickett score freely in an open forward line? it was embarassing watching melbourne's 2023 finals campaign with collingwood and carlton being given all the time in the world to flood the forward line because there was zero emphasis on attacking football.
the game has completely gone past goodwin's gameplan. 'contest defence' only gets you so far, and last year saw a melbourne side that not only struggled to score most weeks but increasingly got opened up defensively. why not actually put some emphasis on quick ball movement and let the likes of petracca, fritsch and pickett score freely in an open forward line? it was embarassing watching melbourne's 2023 finals campaign with collingwood and carlton being given all the time in the world to flood the forward line because there was zero emphasis on attacking football.
May and Gawn head into the 2025 season aged 33. They will be very good but there isn't guaranteed dominance. They could easily have worse years than 2024.
Lever is a decent B grader nowadays. Oliver has to improve to even get back to that.
Petracca (especially) and Pickett are special players who win matches, no issues there. Fritsch at his best is a point of difference.
Viney is getting on. I don't expect Dangerfield or Pendlebury longevity.
The second list of players, there's some good talents and some battlers. Rivers, Windsor and JVR are exciting players who should keep getting better.
It's a 5th-8th list with a 12th-15th coach, so I expect about a 9th-11th place finish.
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Don't disagree with any of this at all. Early 2023 we looked to be playing a more attacking game, then we conceded like 110 against Essendon and Goodwin shit himself and went back to parking the bus. In 2024 we didn't even try attack more, just tried to not bomb it in as much so we retained possession more but also still didn't threaten teams at all. Halfway through the year they threw out that gameplan and went back to the 2020-2023 style with very middling results.
I find it crazy with the small/medium forwards we have we are so afraid to have more space ahead of the ball, but Goodwin is obsessed with not getting opened up defensively (Which is funny if you watch some of our games in 2024 when that absolutely happened).
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