Australia v India - post 2nd Test discussion, we're all doomed? Maybe not.

[Jim Prideaux]

That would be moronic.

Ok then. You should shoot your resume through to selection@cricket.com.au

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sorry but I don't agree with that. He would have been in last year if it wasn't political. He's not ever getting picked again (nor is probably Harris if they are picking someone as unsuitable as mcsweeney).

Possibly a little truth to it being political he bats like a crab anyway and is as ugly as anything to watch so not complaining not having him there.

I agree with last summer it was a waste should have given Warner the farewell in Sydney and used the other 4 tests

 

[Gough]

Ok then. You should shoot your resume through to selection@cricket.com.au

Test team should be selected by a cricket board popular vote.

 

[toml]

Finally someone with brains. 100 % right not that anyone will listen.

I listened, I listened to the entire podcast and not just a 90 second clip on twitter or X or whatever it's called. It was one of the worst and most ill-informed podcasts I can remember listening to. Cowan exposed himself as a guy making opinions despite the fact he clearly doesn't watch domestic cricket and the other bloke is some deluded Victorian Harris fan saying words. Couple blokes stealing a living based on that podcast, and I say that as someone who usually likes listening to Ed. Ed called McSweeney a "mediocre number 4" despite the fact he has been batting 3 for South Australia for some time now. Your credibility is in the mud when you make basic errors like that and people that casually follow the shield can see through the bullshit.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Possibly a little truth to it being political he bats like a crab anyway and is as ugly as anything to watch so not complaining not having him there.

I agree with last summer it was a waste should have given Warner the farewell in Sydney and used the other 4 tests

Warner was so finished and Bancroft was so in form then the swap was obvious. But politically some people in the selectors tent won't go for it.

But they are also useless. They've had over 12 months of knowing Warner was going to plan-if they wanted to pick mcsweeney why the heck were they not instructing SA to run him as an opener in the shield last year? They have been exposed for having no viable plan and he's only being picked because it's a Bradbury situation.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Ok then. You should shoot your resume through to selection@cricket.com.au

I've got better things to do with my life but id do a better job than them. Most people would. Inflated egos-no decent decision making processes and flawed junior development systems.

 

[toml]

Inglis as the spare batsman? Jeepers.

So we have a wicket-keeper as the batting reserve and we have a middling middle order bat as an opener.

And our batting stocks are good. Yeah right.

Selectors should be sacked. I liked Bailey as s cricketer but as a selector he's a moron.

Inglis has averaged 60 with the bat over a fairly extended run of shield matches he has played in

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Inglis has averaged 60 with the bat over a fairly extended run of shield matches he has played in

I'm aware of his average. My point is if our best reserve batsman is our reserve keeper and our best opener option is a bog average middle order bat who has never opened, our reserve batting stocks are clearly flawed and have no depth no?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Warner was so finished and Bancroft was so in form then the swap was obvious. But politically some people in the selectors tent won't go for it.

But they are also useless. They've had over 12 months of knowing Warner was going to plan-if they wanted to pick mcsweeney why the heck were they not instructing SA to run him as an opener in the shield last year? They have been exposed for having no viable plan and he's only being picked because it's a Bradbury situation.

Let’s just be happy that at least they didn’t go Harris for the 15th time to tell us he’s not test standard.

Bancroft was unlucky last year

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I listened, I listened to the entire podcast and not just a 90 second clip on twitter or X or whatever it's called. It was one of the worst and most ill-informed podcasts I can remember listening to. Cowan exposed himself as a guy making opinions despite the fact he clearly doesn't watch domestic cricket and the other bloke is some deluded Victorian Harris fan saying words. Couple blokes stealing a living based on that podcast, and I say that as someone who usually likes listening to Ed.

If you listened to what he said properly he's not plumping for Harris. His points are 1) the selectors don't understand the importance of picking a specialist opener given they aren't developing any and aren't preparing guys like mcsweeney to open and 2) Harris is probably the least worst option given our paucity of other options (he's not saying Harris is good enough he's saying everyone else is so bad that you probably have to go back to him).

He's 1million % right on the first count and I'm not a Harris fan but it's probably hard to argue against the 2nd count either.

 

[toml]

a bog average middle order bat

Stop listening to shit Ed Cowan podcasts and making your opinions from that please. McSweeney has averaged 80 in FC cricket since February. He also bats 3 which is a top order bat not a middle order bat.

 

[madjoe]

Inglis has averaged 60 with the bat over a fairly extended run of shield matches he has played in

his played 5 shield games in 3 years lol i get why he has played one day cricket and what not i just think it's flawed looking at AVG when he bats low in the order, davies from nsw AVG 67 last year should he be opening?

 

[Great8]

why the heck were they not instructing SA to run him as an opener in the shield last year?

CA has absolutely zero sway over state selections. SA have Hunt locked in one spot and trying to develop another opener.
Khawaja batted at 4 for QLD last year leading into the tests don’t forget

 

[Hamingja]

Like Smith opening last year, it is the least worst option. It is not a good option, just the least worst.

Harris and Bancroft are both not up to it.

Give the NSW kid a full 12 months at shield level before considering him.

Time is now for McSweeney.

 

[toml]

If you listened to what he said properly he's not plumping for Harris. His points are 1) the selectors don't understand the importance of picking a specialist opener given they aren't developing any and aren't preparing guys like mcsweeney to open and 2) Harris is probably the least worst option given our paucity of other options (he's not saying Harris is good enough he's saying everyone else is so bad that you probably have to go back to him).

He's 1million % right on the first count and I'm not a Harris fan but it's probably hard to argue against the 2nd count either.

Half of our last 15 test openers were not "specialist openers". The "specialist opener" thing is a myth, if you have a good technique, know where your off stump is and have the slightest bit of patience most good top 4 batsman can move it in to the opener role. Langer, Katich, Watson etc

 

[akkaps]

Give the NSW kid a full 12 months at shield level before considering him.

Also, by this time. Khawaja should be about time to retire.


Or controversially, take both McSweeney and Konstas to the Caribbean in June next year

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Stop listening to shit Ed Cowan podcasts and making your opinions from that please. McSweeney has averaged 80 in FC cricket since February. He also bats 3 which is a top order bat not a middle order bat.

I stopped listening at February. Get back to me when he does it over a consistent period of time.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Also, by this time. Khawaja should be about time to retire.


Or controversially, take both McSweeney and Konstas to the Caribbean in June next year

Think they will take Konstas on that tour as experience anyway

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I stopped listening at February. Get back to me when he does it over a consistent period of time.

It’s still better than going back to a bloke in Harris who has failed 14 times before. Langer batted the same position for WA as McSweeney does.

 

[Some Idiot]

Warner was so finished and Bancroft was so in form then the swap was obvious. But politically some people in the selectors tent won't go for it.

But they are also useless. They've had over 12 months of knowing Warner was going to plan-if they wanted to pick mcsweeney why the heck were they not instructing SA to run him as an opener in the shield last year? They have been exposed for having no viable plan and he's only being picked because it's a Bradbury situation.

I don't think it's political, other wise they would never have picked Bancroft in the 2019 Ashes series

 

[Great8]

Think they will take Konstas on that tour as experience anyway

Absolutely.
Khawaja will probably finish after the Ashes so take Konstas to Sri Lanka And the Caribbean

 

[Pure_Ownage]

CA has absolutely zero sway over state selections. SA have Hunt locked in one spot and trying to develop another opener.
Khawaja batted at 4 for QLD last year leading into the tests don’t forget

Usman is a different case as he's nearing retirement so isn't going to block a younger player opening for qld. That doesn't apply to mcsweeney.
SA have had a revolving door on the 2nd opening spot so he easily could have gone there if good enough.
I disagree that CA have no sway we see them telling the state camps to for example play certain players in positions or limit their training/bowling loads all the time.

Regardless if they wanted Nathan in they should have been telling him and his coach last year that he either needed to open or move to a state that would let him open (if you're saying SA would have told their captain to get stuffed which I seriously doubt).

CA didnt do this because they werent considering him as a test opener but now because everyone else has failed they are having to throw him in at the 11th hour with no opening preparation.

Its nothing against mcsweeney i hope he does well but it shows how useless the selectors are at planning and why we need new leadership.

Half of our last 15 test openers were not "specialist openers". The "specialist opener" thing is a myth, if you have a good technique, know where your off stump is and have the slightest bit of patience most good top 4 batsman can move it in to the opener role. Langer, Katich, Watson etc

First of all that's the wrong mindset because you need go develop specialist openers just like you need to develop specialist keepers, fast bowlers, leg-spinner etc.

Secondly you might have a point if most middle order bats had a solid technique but if you watch the shield most middle order bats have a poor technique. Even Kontas does (although he has time), even someone like mcsweeney does too and I laugh about people talking about Webster in the middle order as his technique is equally loose. When you have guys like Davies who probably should be playing grade cricket in the A team it shows you we aren't prioritising technique. Which means there's more need for a specialist opener not less.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Absolutely.
Khawaja will probably finish after the Ashes so take Konstas to Sri Lanka And the Caribbean

Yep it’s the one instance where taking a young kid can be beneficial

 

[toml]

Usman is a different case as he's nearing retirement so isn't going to block a younger player opening for qld. That doesn't apply to mcsweeney.
SA have had a revolving door on the 2nd opening spot so he easily could have gone there if good enough.
I disagree that CA have no sway we see them telling the state camps to for example play certain players in positions or limit their training/bowling loads all the time.

Regardless if they wanted Nathan in they should have been telling him and his coach last year that he either needed to open or move to a state that would let him open (if you're saying SA would have told their captain to get stuffed which I seriously doubt).

CA didnt do this because they werent considering him as a test opener but now because everyone else has failed they are having to throw him in at the 11th hour with no opening preparation.

Its nothing against mcsweeney i hope he does well but it shows how useless the selectors are at planning and why we need new leadership.



First of all that's the wrong mindset because you need go develop specialist openers just like you need to develop specialist keepers, fast bowlers, leg-spinner etc.

Secondly you might have a point if most middle order bats had a solid technique but if you watch the shield most middle order bats have a poor technique. Even Kontas does (although he has time), even someone like mcsweeney does too and I laugh about people talking about Webster in the middle order as his technique is equally loose. When you have guys like Davies who probably should be playing grade cricket in the A team it shows you we aren't prioritising technique. Which means there's more need for a specialist opener not less.

What about McSweeney's technique is poor? Genuinely curious to hear what you have to say about it, you are the only person I have ever seen question his technique at all and somehow you have come to the conclusion that it's poor. Very strange that basically no one has questioned his technique at all but you have decided it's bad. You got a bee in your bonnet? Making up falsities? I guess it would be on brand considering you cited the Ed Cowan podcast earlier that was loaded with incorrect information.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

LP backs McSweeney. That's enough for me to be sceptical.
Bumrah and co to have a field day with the new ball.