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Australian cheating at Newlands, where to from here?
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Did Faf tell assembled media "yeah I scratched the ball up using my pants zipper to try to get some reverse swing" and Graeme Smith go "yeah, me and AB knew about it, we had a bit of a chat about it over our roast beef"?
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maybe except there is absolutely no suggestion or evidence that it has happened before
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Smith will be straight back in.
Warner will be on the outer for a minimum of another 12 months beyond his suspension, and even then still pretty unlikely he'll come back into the fold. His marketability to Cricket Australia may be the only thing that gets him another gig.
Bancroft is performance dependant as he'll be locked in a battle with Renshaw, Burns and maybe a coupe of others for a spot.
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Warner also has plenty of priors to his name as well.
So Paine is the skipper full time... WOW
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Well why was there a zip on his cricket whites in the first place? That was put there for a reason aka planned.
No they probably refused to admit guilt and appealed the suspension whereas smith took responsibility. I honestly thought smith was showing leadership taking responsibility completely unaware of how much the world would over react. He literally had the benchmark punishment playing in the same match as him which was nothing.
Yes only Tendulka, Kohli and Du Plessis can captain a side after being caught ball tampering.
Yep we are ****ed
Wait what? Faf got Mrs du Plessis to sew a zip into his cricket whites for ball tampering purposes?
I don't think they were even suspected of anything. Faf was the one rubbing the ball close to the zip. See how it works?
Note these sanctions have not been imposed by the ICC.
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We will still be expected to beat Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
India will be a tough series but they've rarely put up much of a fight in Australia.
Perhaps if Smith hadn't stood up for Du Plessis and had organised the channel 9 cameras to get better footage it would be different for Faf.
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Every other cricket nation would deny deny deny..
Then they would call in the lawyers to fight the ICC's 1 game ban
In australia we ban our captains for 12 months each
save us from your laughable moral grandstanding thanks
Then they would call in the lawyers to fight the ICC's 1 game ban
In australia we ban our captains for 12 months each
save us from your laughable moral grandstanding thanks
Interestingly the closest we’ve gotten was in 2003/04 when Australia were similarly ravaged with Warne and Mcgrath both out, except ofcourse that was through injury.
If the pitches remain as flat as they have been tho I expect Australia’s replacement bats to be pretty proficient anyway.
The interesting thing will be if this type of tampering has occurred previously on the same flat pitches and if it has been a factor in the Aussie fast bowlers being successful at home.
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The ICC don't seem to think sandpaper was a 'fair bit worse'. In fact they don't even really consider ball tampering cheating. If they did, they would issue considerably harsher penalties than a 5 run penalty, a fine or at worst 4 demerit points lol
Why would he try and save himself? Warner knows he is a lame duck and will never play for Australia again. Nothing to hide imho
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Don't be a fool. He clearly found white pants with a zip on them for that exact reason and it was the second time he was sanctioned about it.
The ICC gave them 1 match bans! That's how serious they think it is.
Smith and Warner have lost a couple million dollars each over something the opposition captain has received no punishment for twice.
I would say we try and tamper on a fairly regular basis, i doubt we often do it with sand paper in such an obvious way but like all teams we do anything we can get away with to get the ball to reverse.
It appears to be an open secret in cricket which is why the ICC penalties are so laughable and clearly not meant to be a strong deterrent to the practice, our lot still should have known the climate here was different to overseas though, most will rally around their players when caught but not here.
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5 million dollar fine for Smith + Warner, 2 million for Bancroft.. plus a ban from all international cricket until our next test series would've been a far better punishment, 12 month bans will completely ruin the team for a long time.
I don't think india are clear favorites but it's going to be very close, even against a pathetic england side we might have lost at the gabba if not for smith and who knows how the series turns out from there so if it's a tight series no smith for us but kohli for india could turn a match.
