Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

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Billy boi clueless as usual...and to think he still harbours Prime Minister hopes.

Obviously Albo still sees him as a threat with strong word being he's been offered his choice of plum overseas postings by Albo to exit Parliament at the next election. Doubt he takes the offer up and he's still intent on taking up residence in The Lodge.


Bill Shorten criticised accused of derailing NDIS reform as 2021 comments come back to bite​

In 2021, Bill Shorten downplayed fears of cost blowouts in the NDIS while in opposition. Now the Scheme is on track to cost $90 billion. Here’s how his comments came back to bite him.

The Opposition has slammed NDIS Minister Bill Shorten for previously undermining reforms to the Scheme, accusing him of lying to people in the disability sector.
In 2021, Mr Shorten led a campaign against the Coalition, which was warning the NDIS was on track to cost $60 billion a year by the end of the decade.

At the time, Mr Shorten said the Morrison government “haven’t proven mass rorting” and infamously compared claims of cost blowouts to being as credible as Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

In a press release he accused the Morrison government of “releasing false financial information to hype its claims of NDIS budget blow outs... to justify further cuts”.

Under heavy pressure from Mr Shorten and disability lobbyists, the Coalition was forced to scrap a controversial measure for all new NDIS applicants to undergo an independent assessment from a government-employed health professional.


Now, in 2024, the National Disability Insurance Scheme remains one of the fastest-growing items in the Federal Budget and could end up costing $90 billion a year by 2030.

There are now 650,000 participants involved in the scheme.

Last week, the NDIS Agency’s Head of Fraud, John Dardo told Senate Estimates around $2 billion in taxpayers money was still being rorted, including for illicit drugs, prostitutes and luxury items.

Mr Dardo cited fraud examples “just in the last week” including a $20,000 holiday and a $73,000 brand new car, with the taxpayer funds being processed overnight.
Mr Shorten has now conceded “the problems are worse than I thought” but insists he wasn’t aware of the extent of the issues until after he became Minister.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, Opposition NDIS spokesperson Michael Sukkar said: “Before the election - Bill Shorten was telling disability advocates that nothing was going to change in the NDIS, that it was just the terrible, nasty Liberals who were saying it was unsustainable.
“I suspect that he knew precisely what the issues were with the scheme, but used it for political purposes and in the process lied to people in the disability sector.

“The galling aspect of the NDIS, the thing that gets people’s blood pressure up is you’ve now got genuine families and children with disabilities waiting twice as long to get a plan.

“But on the other side - by the admission you have at least $2 billion going out the door on fraud, including heroin, meth, cocaine and prostitutes.”
 
Billy boi clueless as usual...and to think he still harbours Prime Minister hopes.

Obviously Albo still sees him as a threat with strong word being he's been offered his choice of plum overseas postings by Albo to exit Parliament at the next election. Doubt he takes the offer up and he's still intent on taking up residence in The Lodge.


Bill Shorten criticised accused of derailing NDIS reform as 2021 comments come back to bite​

In 2021, Bill Shorten downplayed fears of cost blowouts in the NDIS while in opposition. Now the Scheme is on track to cost $90 billion. Here’s how his comments came back to bite him.

The Opposition has slammed NDIS Minister Bill Shorten for previously undermining reforms to the Scheme, accusing him of lying to people in the disability sector.
In 2021, Mr Shorten led a campaign against the Coalition, which was warning the NDIS was on track to cost $60 billion a year by the end of the decade.

At the time, Mr Shorten said the Morrison government “haven’t proven mass rorting” and infamously compared claims of cost blowouts to being as credible as Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

In a press release he accused the Morrison government of “releasing false financial information to hype its claims of NDIS budget blow outs... to justify further cuts”.

Under heavy pressure from Mr Shorten and disability lobbyists, the Coalition was forced to scrap a controversial measure for all new NDIS applicants to undergo an independent assessment from a government-employed health professional.


Now, in 2024, the National Disability Insurance Scheme remains one of the fastest-growing items in the Federal Budget and could end up costing $90 billion a year by 2030.

There are now 650,000 participants involved in the scheme.

Last week, the NDIS Agency’s Head of Fraud, John Dardo told Senate Estimates around $2 billion in taxpayers money was still being rorted, including for illicit drugs, prostitutes and luxury items.

Mr Dardo cited fraud examples “just in the last week” including a $20,000 holiday and a $73,000 brand new car, with the taxpayer funds being processed overnight.
Mr Shorten has now conceded “the problems are worse than I thought” but insists he wasn’t aware of the extent of the issues until after he became Minister.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, Opposition NDIS spokesperson Michael Sukkar said: “Before the election - Bill Shorten was telling disability advocates that nothing was going to change in the NDIS, that it was just the terrible, nasty Liberals who were saying it was unsustainable.
“I suspect that he knew precisely what the issues were with the scheme, but used it for political purposes and in the process lied to people in the disability sector.

“The galling aspect of the NDIS, the thing that gets people’s blood pressure up is you’ve now got genuine families and children with disabilities waiting twice as long to get a plan.

“But on the other side - by the admission you have at least $2 billion going out the door on fraud, including heroin, meth, cocaine and prostitutes.”
For every program that tries to do good and serve a dire need there are so many rorts, it’s frustrating 😡
 
FAUCI would be a thousand times less dumb than antivaxxers who swallow cool aid from online idiots
If Fauci was a conservative, you would be calling for the chair given the horrendous crimes this vile creature has committed. Surely you are not that far gone that you can't acknowledge true evil when you see it, regardless of the team he plays for.

*something, something.....far right".
 

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If Fauci was a conservative, you would be calling for the chair given the horrendous crimes this vile creature has committed. Surely you are not that far gone that you can't acknowledge true evil when you see it, regardless of the team he plays for.

*something, something.....far right".
Nup not true. It ‘s just that I’m not taken in by antivax psyops as you are. And.. in pure contrast to ‘conservatives’ …I do not call for execution of anyone. That’s MAGA domain and typical that it even comes into your head. Can’t help that the undereducated don’t understand the scientific process and that everything is a conspiracy theory either.
 
It's not April fools is it. Kennet is 100% correct.


Jeff Kennett: Awarding Daniel Andrews a Companion of the Order of Australia devalues it beyond recognition​

Bestowing the highest civilian award in Australia on Daniel Andrews has devalued it beyond recognition and reeks of political interference. The decision must be overturned.
Victorians, every Australian should be outraged that the individual who has so destroyed the opportunities for generations in this state has been granted the highest civilian award in Australia.
In doing so, the awards under the Order of Australia have been devalued beyond recognition.

In awarding the highest honour to Mr Andrews, the Governor-General, and the Secretariat that manages the awarding of honours, have rewarded gross financial mismanagement of Victoria, the deaths of more than 800 Victorians, and manifest failure of Mr Andrews to discharge his responsibilities under the Westminster system.

Worse the awarding of the AC to Mr Andrews reeks of political interference and direction to the Governor-General and the Secretariat.

Rarely if ever does a politician get an award while in office, so you can assume the process for awarding Mr Andrews only started when he resigned on 26th September last year, only eight months ago.

Certainly, individuals get recognised for their positive contribution to Australians and Australian life.

You could say that was certainly the case of the former Premier of Western Australia Mark McGowan who also received an AC.

He resigned on June 8 last year but left his state in a much better condition than when he inherited it.

But Mr Andrews by no definition meets this.


On two measures in the citation that accompanies Mr Andrews award, health and infrastructure, he has failed.

Certainly, the third, reform, when he failed to accept responsibility for his actions that so disadvantaged his community.

Australians, and certainly Victorians, who have been adversely affected by these activities should write to the Governor-General, requesting this award be immediately withdrawn.

This award has either been lodged well before the nominee resigned from office or was fast tracked.

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Families of Covid victims outraged over Daniel Andrews King’s Birthday honour​

Families of Covid victims have voiced disgust at ex-premier Daniel Andrews becoming one of six people to receive the highest King’s Birthday honour – in part for his service to public health.
Former premier Daniel Andrews has controversially received the nation’s highest honour for his service to Victoria despite presiding over deadly Covid errors, imposing the world’s longest hard lockdown and leaving the state with crippling debts.

The award – the Companion of the Order of Australia (AC) – has been slammed by families of pandemic victims after 768 people died due to the Andrews government’s botched hotel quarantine program and bungled contact tracing.

Mr Andrews, who has never properly owned up to any of his mistakes, was one of just six Australians to be awarded the AC as part of this year’s King’s Birthday honours.

The longest serving Victorian Labor premier was recognised for his “eminent service to the people and parliament of Victoria, to public health, to policy and regulatory reform, and to infrastructure development”.
News of his award, officially announced at 10pm on Sunday, leaked out on social media last week, prompting widespread anger and discussion in political and civic circles.

The office of Australia’s Governor-General David Hurley refused to reveal who nominated Mr Andrews, but a spokesman said the Council for the Order of Australia – an independent body of 19 people – gave the final recommendation on who should be given the award.
Sebastian Agnello, whose mum Carmela died of Covid during the Epping Gardens Aged Care outbreak, said the award made a mockery of the honours.

“Daniel Andrews was the Premier in charge and (there) has been no accountability for anything he has done,” he said.

“You are responsible for the actions you’ve taken. He was the Premier, he was in charge and he made the decisions, but where’s the accountability? I feel let down and disappointed. There’s no accountability.”

Frank Micallef lost both his parents, Charlie and Carmen, within 31 hours during the deadly second wave.
He said news of the award made him “sick to my stomach”.

“If you want to reduce the credibility of an award like that, give one to him,” he said.

“Even many of his most ardent followers can see or are starting to question the legacy that he left. There’s no credibility to the awards if someone like him gets it. None whatsoever.”


 
Former South Australian premier Steele Hall dies aged 95
The former premier and SA Liberal leader spent decades in politics at state and federal levels.


A true gentleman and could have been a great Premier, shafted by his own party. One of the good reformers of our political system.

I met him once as a young lad. He was getting farm equipment repaired. Didn't speak down and was more than friendly in his conversations. Always had my respect and I voted Labor after this out of disgust to what was done to him.

i dislike Steven Marshall but his summation of Steele is very true.

Mr Marshall described Mr Hall as a modest person, saying this was a quality not abundant in politics.

What we see now is politicians trying to claim responsibility for other people’s work. ‘It was me,’ they all say. We’ve never seen that from Steele Hall — just somebody who has genuinely worked diligently for the people of the state the whole time he’s been in politics,” he said.



 
It's not April fools is it. Kennet is 100% correct.


Jeff Kennett: Awarding Daniel Andrews a Companion of the Order of Australia devalues it beyond recognition​

Bestowing the highest civilian award in Australia on Daniel Andrews has devalued it beyond recognition and reeks of political interference. The decision must be overturned.
Victorians, every Australian should be outraged that the individual who has so destroyed the opportunities for generations in this state has been granted the highest civilian award in Australia.
In doing so, the awards under the Order of Australia have been devalued beyond recognition.

In awarding the highest honour to Mr Andrews, the Governor-General, and the Secretariat that manages the awarding of honours, have rewarded gross financial mismanagement of Victoria, the deaths of more than 800 Victorians, and manifest failure of Mr Andrews to discharge his responsibilities under the Westminster system.

Worse the awarding of the AC to Mr Andrews reeks of political interference and direction to the Governor-General and the Secretariat.

Rarely if ever does a politician get an award while in office, so you can assume the process for awarding Mr Andrews only started when he resigned on 26th September last year, only eight months ago.

Certainly, individuals get recognised for their positive contribution to Australians and Australian life.

You could say that was certainly the case of the former Premier of Western Australia Mark McGowan who also received an AC.

He resigned on June 8 last year but left his state in a much better condition than when he inherited it.

But Mr Andrews by no definition meets this.


On two measures in the citation that accompanies Mr Andrews award, health and infrastructure, he has failed.

Certainly, the third, reform, when he failed to accept responsibility for his actions that so disadvantaged his community.

Australians, and certainly Victorians, who have been adversely affected by these activities should write to the Governor-General, requesting this award be immediately withdrawn.

This award has either been lodged well before the nominee resigned from office or was fast tracked.

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Why Andrews and MacGowan and not Marshall? Scrap that. I know why ...
 
Why Andrews and MacGowan and not Marshall? Scrap that. I know why ...

LOL​

‘Sick to my stomach’: Backlash over Daniel Andrews receiving the nation’s highest honour​

Former premier Daniel Andrews has controversially received the nation’s highest honour for his service to Victoria despite presiding over deadly Covid errors, imposing the world’s longest hard lockdown and leaving the state with crippling debts.
The Council for the Order of Australia, the body which signed off on the award, has also been forced to clarify there was no conflict of interest in the process given the council’s Victorian representative is Department of Premier and Cabinet secretary Jeremi Moule.

Mr Moule, the state’s top bureaucrat, was appointed to the premier’s department by Mr Andrews.


The awarding of the Companion of the Order of Australia (AC) to Mr Andrews has been slammed by families of pandemic victims after 768 people died due to the Andrews government’s botched hotel quarantine program and bungled contact tracing.

Mr Andrews, who has never properly owned up to any of his mistakes, was one of just six Australians to be awarded the AC as part of this year’s King’s Birthday honours.
Other public figures to receive the award were former Labor leader, the late Simon Crean and Samantha Mostyn, who becomes Governor-General next month.

Another senior Labor figure, former federal minister Greg Combet, has been made an Officer of the order of Australia (AO).

Monday’s list marks the first time in more than a decade that four honorees from the same party have been recognised at the same time.


No Coalition figures were included in Monday’s list of high-achieving Australians
 
The report has already been discussed - either here, or on the International Politics thread.

The report appears to be the very worst kind of junk science, and was quickly debunked by the ABS - who pointed out that there were a grand total of 16 deaths attributed to the COVID vaccines in Australia, while hundreds of thousands of lives were saved by them.

The report's authors apear to have taken a very simplistic view that "lots of people received COVAX, and lots of people died during this period, therefore COVAX caused lots of people to die" - completely ignoring the real cause of those deaths, i.e. COVID.

It's a staggeringly stupid argument, so it's no great surprise that Newscorpse are the only major media organisation bothering to dignify it with a report in their media.
For point of reference, here's what the ABS has to say...
  • 16 deaths caused by COVID vaccines
  • 17,276 deaths where the underlying cause was COVID
  • 4,551 deaths where the primary cause was something else (e.g. cancer), but COVID contributed to their deaths
The COVID death figures are from this source, and are from March 2020 to January 2024.

There are also some deaths which were caused by people not seeking primary health care during the COVID & lockdown periods. Delayed treatment resulted in deaths, even if the people didn't have COVID. These numbers are not included in the list above, as they're only indirectly caused by COVID.

Good summary, dismantling the original article, the media coverage, and the entire straw clutching premise that vaccines are the cause of every sneeze, traffic jam, interest rate rise and unexplained fart.




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It's not April fools is it. Kennet is 100% correct.


Jeff Kennett: Awarding Daniel Andrews a Companion of the Order of Australia devalues it beyond recognition​

Bestowing the highest civilian award in Australia on Daniel Andrews has devalued it beyond recognition and reeks of political interference. The decision must be overturned.
Victorians, every Australian should be outraged that the individual who has so destroyed the opportunities for generations in this state has been granted the highest civilian award in Australia.
In doing so, the awards under the Order of Australia have been devalued beyond recognition.

In awarding the highest honour to Mr Andrews, the Governor-General, and the Secretariat that manages the awarding of honours, have rewarded gross financial mismanagement of Victoria, the deaths of more than 800 Victorians, and manifest failure of Mr Andrews to discharge his responsibilities under the Westminster system.

Worse the awarding of the AC to Mr Andrews reeks of political interference and direction to the Governor-General and the Secretariat.

Rarely if ever does a politician get an award while in office, so you can assume the process for awarding Mr Andrews only started when he resigned on 26th September last year, only eight months ago.

Certainly, individuals get recognised for their positive contribution to Australians and Australian life.

You could say that was certainly the case of the former Premier of Western Australia Mark McGowan who also received an AC.

He resigned on June 8 last year but left his state in a much better condition than when he inherited it.

But Mr Andrews by no definition meets this.


On two measures in the citation that accompanies Mr Andrews award, health and infrastructure, he has failed.

Certainly, the third, reform, when he failed to accept responsibility for his actions that so disadvantaged his community.

Australians, and certainly Victorians, who have been adversely affected by these activities should write to the Governor-General, requesting this award be immediately withdrawn.

This award has either been lodged well before the nominee resigned from office or was fast tracked.

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Albo doing ‘Each-way Albo’ thing again. It must be killing him not to allow this guy in.

Palestine Football Association president denied entry into Australia ahead of World Cup qualifier in Perth​


Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has distanced himself from a decision to deny the head of the Palestine Football Association a visa ahead of his team's World Cup qualifier with the Socceroos in Perth.
Rajoub, who is also head of the Palestine Olympic Committee, is a political leader.

7NEWS understands Rajoub’s visa wasn’t denied on character grounds. But the government is instead relying on a technicality in his application to deny him entry.

That’s despite the FA boss believing he has demonstrated ties to the Australian Palestinian community, and receiving visa support from FIFA.

 
Good summary, dismantling the original article, the media coverage, and the entire straw clutching premise that vaccines are the cause of every sneeze, traffic jam, interest rate rise and unexplained fart.

Given that we know this as an absolute matter of fact:


“Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases.


…in addition to the fact there is at least a correlation between excess deaths and the rollout….

You’re happy to shut the book on it completely? You don’t believe it requires further investigation at all?
 
It kinda is given that Warp Speed was a Trump initiative, and I have never, not once, heard you praise him for that.
What has has that to do with Fauci?
Do you realise that worldwide there was a rush on vaccines, not just in the US?
At the time I thought it was great that they were putting a lot of money into developing the vaccines as millions were dying of covid19.
You must have been very upset by that though.
I have not heard you denounce Trump for Warp Speed.
 
Given that we know this as an absolute matter of fact:


“Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases.


…in addition to the fact there is at least a correlation between excess deaths and the rollout….

You’re happy to shut the book on it completely? You don’t believe it requires further investigation at all?
VDS
 
What has has that to do with Fauci?
Do you realise that worldwide there was a rush on vaccines, not just in the US?
At the time I thought it was great that they were putting a lot of money into developing the vaccines as millions were dying of covid19.
You must have been very upset by that though.
I have not heard you denounce Trump for Warp Speed.

Listen harder



Also, Trump never mandated them on anyone.
 

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